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Think my first encounter with the Evil ownership experience was a dude at the endurance downhill... His goal for the day was to break his Revolt, so he could return it on warranty and get the carbon one, then sell it. He'd not ridden it much so he was worried it might actually be the only Revolt to outlive the warranty period.
Everyone else's goal is to complete the maximum runs in 6 hours, not him, if he finished the race it was a disaster. I saw him pushing it down the hill after a couple of hours, mission accomplished!
I think the moral is, they know how to make reliable frames, as long as they're really heavy steel hardtails. But with their reputation they need to go above and beyond to win back trust.
On their site it says Tech Crap. Made me laugh. Hope they sort it out if the bikes ride really well. 🙂
[quote=TimothyD ]Pardon at the T5?
It's whooshed over my head.
Volkswagen Transporter Type 5. the discerning MTBers vehicle of choice
(for the record I have one..., but not an evil)
Yeah, I too spotted the section called "Tech Crap" - that's not a good term to use.
It's a fine term to use.
Everything about their marketing, spirit, riders, industry connections, is great.
They're basically a couple of guys who also run a design agency, a beer company, etc.
I think they know how to build a bike, but I also think that they get excited by designing, manufacturing and marketing and then get bored with the rest.
Yeah, I too spotted the section called "Tech Crap" - that's not a good term to use.
I found it quite entertaining. Enough that I bought the bike. Oh how we laughed.
The Following was back in action this weekend thanks to HftH (my LBS), and reminding me what a stunning bike it is.
The original cracked rear triangle has been sent back to Evil for evaluation - I guess once they've looked at it they will decide whether or not to honour the warranty with the shop.
I found it quite entertaining. Enough that I bought the bike. Oh how we laughed.
PMSL 😆
We still need to have an Evil Gathering at some point!
VERY glad to hear you've had excellent service from your LBS and are back out on it again heihei... 😀
We still need to have an Evil Gathering at some point!
That sounds like a cracking idea
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Surely Halloween would be an appropriate date?
I warrant that could be fun!
@heihei pleased to hear of your good outcome. Props to Head For The Hills.
We still need to have an Evil Gathering at some point!
Imagine the collective brown trouser moment when someone rides over and breaks a substantial twig.
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I've been watching this thread relatively nervously. At this stage I'm hoping to buy an Insurgent as my next bike. This will be a while away, 2017. Fortunately this leaves me enough time to find out if they crack and if they do if the owners are looked after. If there's much more hints of this kind of thing going on then I'll be buying something else. And I'd rather not, because the Insurgent looks amazing and, more importantly, people who I respect who have ridden say it stands head and shoulders above other bikes.
I think it's OK to want one of these bikes, but people who buy them do so by monitoring what's going on with the frames that are out there. Hopefully they've finally got it sorted.
it stands head and shoulders above other bikes
You really believe that one bike is that much betterer than everything else available?
Gotta hand it to the Evil marketing engineers I suppose
[quote=munrobiker ]I've been watching this thread relatively nervously. At this stage I'm hoping to buy an Insurgent as my next bike. This will be a while away, 2017. Fortunately this leaves me enough time to find out if they crack and if they do if the owners are looked after. If there's much more hints of this kind of thing going on then I'll be buying something else. And I'd rather not, because the Insurgent looks amazing and, more importantly, people who I respect who have ridden say it stands head and shoulders above other bikes.
I think it's OK to want one of these bikes, but people who buy them do so by monitoring what's going on with the frames that are out there. Hopefully they've finally got it sorted.
with your record on bike destroying?
You really believe that one bike is that much betterer than everything else available?
He never said that, he said his friends said that.
It's believable though, i've ridden a fair few bikes including a Nomad, and the Uprising is the better bike IMO.
He clearly believes what the respected others are saying though. "head and shoulders" implies that it makes every other option redundant
And I'd rather not, because the Insurgent looks amazing and, more importantly, people who I respect who have ridden say it stands head and shoulders above other bikes.
They are talking bolleaux.
It's believable though, i've ridden a fair few bikes including a Nomad, and the Uprising is the better bike IMO.
No it's not. And the latter is subjective. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who believe the Nomad is a far better bike.
He clearly believes what the respected others are saying though. "head and shoulders" implies that it makes every other option redundant
Exactly. It's mostly horse manure.
Surely Halloween would be an appropriate date?
Quite probably, though a little short notice for me I'm afraid...
When's the next Friday 13th?
You've obviously ridden both then butterbean? What were your thoughts?
Just in case the haters are running out of fuel I'm also going to confess to being, as well as happy with my unbroken Following, a middle aged wheels on ground IT bloke who lives in the Surrey Hills and probably couldn't tell one boinger from another in a blind test. There is a BWM in the family, tho it's not mine, and I do fail in that I don't and have never owned an Orange 5.
Cards on the table I say.
Lay it on lads, I can take it.
Audi? 😉
mattjg - MemberJust in case the haters are running out of fuel I'm also going to confess to being, as well as happy with my unbroken Following, a middle aged wheels on ground IT bloke who lives in the Surrey Hills and probably couldn't tell one boinger from another in a blind test. There is a BWM in the family, tho it's not mine, and I do fail in that I don't and have never owned an Orange 5.
Cards on the table I say.
Lay it on lads, I can take it.
Not sure anyone is hating.... just shock/disappointment that a brand with such a terrible history is still producing flaky product and not doing right by their customers. The bikes look great, and by all accounts ride brilliantly. But as long as they fail to back their product with decent support, they're not a risk I could see myself taking. Hope you get to enjoy your bike and don't end up in that position.
No Audi.
Just sold my Ford Capri - is that a step back or forwards.
neither, capris normally went sidewards
people who I respect who have ridden say it stands head and shoulders above other bikes
Pretty subjective shirley? What's meant to be so magical about it (genuine question)?
An evil ride out could be good, I bet you could get a carbon repair company to sponsor it 😉
mattjg - yep we should def do it. I know of one other Following too, so there'd be a trio! BMW here too, although technically it's an Alpina - does that count?
Well over 1000 following frames sold ,2 reported cracked frames both crash damaged ,
Don't see the problem
I think it just goes to show how a legacy of failed bike designs and manufacturing faults + terrible customer service can tarnish a brand
BMW here too, although technically it's an Alpina - does that count?
Chapeau sir!
330D Touring here... Albeit a 10 year old one! 😉