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Read a review a while ago that said although Juicy 5 are plenty powerful but they don't handle heat so well. Is this really an issue in the UK or was the reviewer looking for something to say? I'm not planning any Alpine trips or downhilling so will they be fine for trail centres and the odd lakeland ride?
They boil easier than any other brake I've seen
once had a heat issue with a Juicy 5 in Pila... one of my top 5 scariest experiences... no lasting damage to me or the brakes thank f@!k 🙂
very unlikely to be a problem in the UK though
I've never managed to boil mine in the UK, and only managed it a few times in the alps in 16 days riding.
Yes twice Vosges, and the Pyrennes. Never used avids again, now magura or shimano. Yours a serial brake dragger 🙂
Yup, Iona boiled hers in Les Arcs. This was on a very long, continuously steep fall-line descent of a kind you're very unlikely to see in the UK though! 180mm rotors BTW.
Was quite annoying since I'd just persuaded her to get new brakes as her 160mm Deores were "a bit under-specced for life in the Alps..."
Not boiled them, but I feel like burning my Juicy 7's. They suck.
I've boiled my Ultimates and mrssheldona boiler her 7's on a decent in Italy last year on our SS's bit scared I must admit!
Boiled Sevens a couple of times, once in Spain and once in Alps. They come with Dot4 in them as standard, from experience really need to replace it with Dot 5.1 to stand a chance in the mountains.
I usually bleed the brakes before a big holiday and have never had a problem when I do that - the Spain boiling incident was with newish brakes and the Alps one when I hadn't bothered to bleed them.
The boiling points on Wikipedia probably tell the story - Wet is 3.7% water in there, Dry is fresh fluid, boiling points in Degrees C:
DOT4 dry 230 wet 155
DOT5.1 dry 270 wet 190
GF has Shimano brakes and they have hardly been touched in 4 years, that tells a story as well I reckon!
Never boiled a pair, but seen mates constantly fry theres in Morzine on Summer trips when everyone elses Formula's, Hayes and even newer Hopes are still working!
Yup, in North Wales. 7" Rotors. Only stick with them because I can't afford anything better at present, and they are on the Cotic, so it doesn't go downhill that fast for that long anyway. I'd be scared $hitless with them on the big bike....
oh this isn't helping the SRAM side of things in the Juicy v's Oro case!
Wonder if the Elixir are any better.....??? Mostly marketing hype available at the moment.
Boiled my 3's (185/160 at the time) coming off of walna scar road in the lakes. Riding down the tarmac bit into coniston, though had been dragging the rear a fair bit until the wooded steep bit of the road. Speeding up and carrying on through the junction, just making it round the corner before coming to a stop was pretty scary.
Maybe I should swap to elixir R's or SLX's? (didn't get on with oro k18's or stroker trails on hire bikes in the alps - (the hayes too hard and wooden, the oros was v.difficult to not pull on full power straight away while trying to hold on through the really lumpy bits)
My mate had some avid 5's and they overheated and constantly leaked! I personally wouldn't touch avid with a barge pole Formula all the way for me 🙂
I would recommend shimano or magura louise fr, great brakes hayes I have found to be reliable but not for me, only used formula about 15 yrs ago and hope are okay, avid crap in me experience
Ah yes James, mine went there too. Startled the man in the beer garden of the Sun Inn when I nearly landed on his lap! Maybe the bike was just eager to get to the bar?