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Events and liability, what makes someone an 'organiser'?

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Negligence could be adding in a particularly steep, dangerous trail that’s out of character in the event or not taking out a badly damaged broken up road,

I'd be more worried about street furniture related to cycling infrastructure based on previous relevant experience.....;)

Was actually recounting the story last night. Seems a long long time ago.

You'd (IMO) need to make sure that proposed route did not take people on roads/ tracks that are closed to the general public for safety/ liability reasons....you could make reference to such sections  between X and Y taking the obvious track on mapping previously having been used in previous editions but are now closed by the municipality due to the risk of rockfall for example......

The avalanche risk by riding a potential route out of the usual time window should also not be underestimated....this is actually a real fear of mine...people think riding up and down a col which is still closed for the winter is a heroic feat, without being suitably knowledgeable and experienced to assess the risk....


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:49 am
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I’d be more worried about street furniture related to cycling infrastructure based on previous relevant experience…..;)

Good luck contacting Turin authorities! : )

You’d (IMO) need to make sure that proposed route did not take people on roads/ tracks that are closed to the general public for safety/ liability reasons….

Yes the route's been updated over the years due to this and because it's almost impossible to know when somewhere will be closed the Terms of Entry used to simply state 'obey traffic signs and closed road notices', plus that the ride wasn't a single-line event and riders should carry maps or GPS to re-route as needed.

Avalanche and rockfall risk are also highlighted as one of the self-evident risk examples. Along with sheep dogs, 4x4s coming round blind corners, the temp changes at altitude, bike worthiness .. etc.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 1:59 pm
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Being outside established event norms and not being a staffed event also created questions for insurers. “What are you actually doing / insuring?”  “Just riding our bikes self-supported from a group start…?” “Is that an event?” .. and hence me thinking that somewhere in all this is a format and guidelines for an event that is not really an event.

Do you have times/results?  I know of one insurer (Howden) who treat competitions quite differently from activities that don’t have published results.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:24 pm
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No published times, results or finisher lists, nothing. There are route options so there's no FKT possible. It's fully unracer. Is it worth me talking to Howdens?


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 11:54 pm
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Initial thoughts were op was going to roll a massuve sound system into a field and have a rave ......


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 12:45 am
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I live in France. Have you tried involving the start village? Our village fete committee organises a couple of events - a mountain bike randonee (200+ people this year and 4 routes)  and a fun run (again 200+ people) - and has whatever public liability insurance is required in France. Riders and runners are much loved - to the point of cheese and wine at the feed stations - because, well, France. Villages are all different but running events seems to be generally supported & ‘don’t be a dick’ seems to get you a long way.


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 8:32 am
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I know  a french organiser of long distance events.....there's generally a need to contact every commune his events pass through....


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 2:35 pm
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