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A majority of motorists think that cyclists shouldn't use the road at all

Err I doubt that, a small vocal grumpy minority I would say. Don't get me wrong I think a lot of drivers have a terrible attitude towards cyclists, and I really don't enjoy commuting on busy roads in Edinburgh any more, but that isn't a reason to play by different rules for no reason. I see as much bad cycling as driving I think though.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 4:44 pm
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You can, of course, back this up with some research? I mean, it's not just some uninformed opinion - is it?

69% of non-cyclists believe that roads are too dangerous to cycle on. We can only speculate as to the reasons why they hold this belief...


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 4:46 pm
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Ah...quite different to:

A majority of motorists think that cyclists shouldn't use the road at all.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 4:55 pm
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Ah...quite different to:

If you think that roads are too dangerous for cyclists to use, then you don't think that cyclists should use roads.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:04 pm
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majotiry of motorists =/= majority of non cyclists.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:05 pm
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majotiry of motorists =/= majority of non cyclists.

69% of respondents overall were motorists.
31% overall were cyclists.
69% non-cyclists believe that roads are too dangerous to cycle on.

What do you think the chances are of only a minority of motorists believing roads are too dangerous to cycle on?


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:20 pm
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"chance" means nothing. Where are your stats?

EDIT: LOL at this quote from that report:

58 per cent of cyclists said that they were very or fairly confident cycling on the roads compared to 20 per cent of non-cyclists.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:25 pm
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You can, of course, back this up with some research? I mean, it's not just some uninformed opinion - is it?

Have a look at page 8


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:40 pm
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Ah, the usual turgid STW "discussion" on rights/wrongs of how to cycle on the roads properly 🙁

Personally, I'm glad that the police are (at least looking like) they're taking cycling safety seriously in the city. Don't think RLJ-ing specifically is the issue, to be honest, but generally the attitude of motorists to cyclists.

I've had two run ins with drivers in as many weeks, and it's nothing to do with jumping lights, just a lack of awareness on the part of the drivers that cyclists are incredibly vulnerable. Sadly, cyclists who RLJ are implying to drivers that they are not vulnerable and basically "fair game" on the roads. I think anyway...


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:42 pm
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. There is no excuse to jump red lights/

yes there is - when it is safer to do so than to wait. Then I will.

However it is a very minor point. I have no problem with the crackdown in this case.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 5:50 pm
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How do you do that safely? I'm talking about the slow (15mph) moving traffic that I get from Cowgate to Haymarket. Not stationary stuff.

It's the stationary stuff that holds me up in the city (if I don't filter). At 15mph I'll happily sit in the center of my lane moving with the traffic flow.


 
Posted : 05/04/2012 7:09 pm
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