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[Closed] DSLRs - Do I sell all my Canon gear and buy a Lumix GH2 (for bike shooting)

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I know what I'd do

Get the Panasonic 45-200 as well? Sounds like a plan.

You won't miss the extra length for video though. The clever cropping digital zoom takes care of that.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 1:19 pm
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I probably need to do some more experimentation with long lenses, but so far I've used the 70-300 very very little.

For a start it's not that great a lens, then there's the narrow aperture - most of my photography involves being wide open.

I looked at the stats on Lightroom and apparently of my 9415 clicks with the 40D, I've only kept 35 taken with the 70-300. I've just looked through them and I can't say I'd upload any of them to flickr or put them in the family album except 2 of the Gormley statues on Crosby beach. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tryingtimes/sets/72157600337567537/

Clearly I'm not being creative enough, but it goes to show that I wont really miss that lens currently.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 1:36 pm
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Oh - Seb - thanks for jumping in - only just saw your username!
Have you had a go with the GHx? Dabbled in video?


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 1:38 pm
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Long zoom is only really useful for wildlife or paparazzi isn't it? Or sports I suppose.

Birds and animals are pretty much the only time mine comes out, and really the reason I bought one after seeing tons of cool critters in Estes Park in Colorado (including a bear 🙂 ) and coming away with a load of tiny teeny pics.


 
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Hmmm - just found this other 70-300 shot which must have been before I switched to Lightroom.
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Posted : 05/05/2011 1:54 pm
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I like that. Good use of zoom imo. Not just framing something a long way off but picking out details from something closer.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 2:01 pm
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Nice Alex.

A big advantage of zoom/tele is separating backgrounds nicely (and compressing perspective).

Seb could say it nicer himself, but if you browse the photos on his blog (which is good btw) notice how many are done with the 200mm f2. So include bike/sports photos in your need for the telezoom.

Tele is also nice if you want to get nice shots of field sports, as you can shoot from the end of pitch rather than the side. Got some nice pics at my rugby club recently with my 120-400 (/dreams of 400mm 2.8.....//).


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 2:29 pm
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There are no fast tele options available for m4/3 at the moment, unless you are happy manually focussing.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 2:37 pm
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even at f5.6 tele separates backgrounds better than wide-standard.

To be honest, I don't personally think that the small mirrorless cameras (or even very small SLR bodies) suit tele lenses well. With increasing focal length I've been glad of increasing body size (plus grip) for stability/balance/handling.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 2:50 pm
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Manual focus for film is okish, for stills of mountain bikers - erm... I guess I'd have to learn new techniques - prefocussing for example.

Telephoto is great for compressing perspective - it's probably why most amateur mountain bike shots always look less dramatic than it was in the flesh.
I have actually been meaning to try telephoto on steep stuff, but I only really have my LX3 with me on rides (which maxes out at 60mm 🙁 )


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 2:55 pm
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some compacts seem to do ok at the tele end. I've been thinking about an Olympus mu tough for biking duties, which goes to about 120 or 140 (off the top of my head). Depth-of-field/background separation is always going to be a bit naff with a compact sized sensor though.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 3:04 pm
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I'd say for MTBing you need the lens that gives you the shot from the limited vantage points you have. For example if you are on a steep hillside you have to be near the trail and riders, so wide angle.. but if you have to be on the other side of a ravine or something..

My fave from Seb's site is the really wide one of the Lakes hillside with the bikers in it. The texture of the hill really reminds me of being out there and scanning the views myself..


 
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Hi Alex 🙂

I've dabbled in video, but only with 'proper' video cameras. I'm not especially convinced by the dSLR + video thing, though I think you can make a case that it makes more sense without the mirror thing getting in the way. But still... a stills camera with HD video built in is, at best, a big compromise on the video side (downsampling, dreadful video ergonomics, usually poor audio, etc. etc.). Most of the excitement around it is because limited depth of field with video used to be insanely expensive... and now it isn't. But like all 'looks', it'll wear thin over time. There's more to good video than incredibly narrow dof in every shot.

If you're happy with the Canon for stills but fancy dabbling in video I think you should approach it from that angle, personally, rather than throw the baby out with the bath water. So to speak 😉


 
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The last episode of House Season 6 was shot entirely on the 5DMKII and looks incredible 🙂


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 4:36 pm
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Cheers Seb - I must admit, I find myself clicking on vimeo videos which have the most bokeh in the thumbnail! 🙂
I can't see myself in a financial position any time soon to be able to buy one of those Voigtländer f/0.95 lenses though 🙁

I'll sleep on it another night - this afternoon was spent photographing my Canon gear ready for putting on sale though!


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 4:37 pm
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I can't see myself in a financial position any time soon to be able to buy one of those Voigtländer f/0.95 lenses though

25mm f1.4 c-mount are £17. Have a look on youtube. Plenty of examples.


 
Posted : 05/05/2011 4:56 pm
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Thanks 5th - that looks like a great way to have a play!


 
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