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Loath though I am to start a 'what's it worth' thread...
I'll soon be time for my trusty Sanderson Breath frame to find a new owner. I had it stripped and powdercoated and I'm struggling to figure out what effect that will have had on what it's worth.
On the one hand, it's a much tougher finish, but on the other hand it's non-standard. Does it add to the value, detract from it or make bugger all difference?
It's a particularly fetching retro turquoise, not a million miles from 'yeti' colour, if that helps...
I wouldn't say so, unless the frame was in really dogshit condition.
I'd rather have a original in poor paint condition, that I know I can get powdercoated than a frame that's had a re-spray.
I'd be thinking "what's that new paintjob hiding?"
IMO Powder coating won't 'add' value. I doubt you'll make any more money on it but it could make it more saleable.
However, there are also those that would rather the frame was in original condition too for fear the powder coat/re-spray is hiding something.
Ultimately you'll only get what someone is willing to pay for it so personally I think it make bugger all difference in most circumstances.
Yeh, thatI'd be thinking "what's that new paintjob hiding?"
I've had 2 frames re-sprayed before selling. Not sure if it adds ££, but I think it makes them more 'saleable' - ie look better than other alternatives.
Thanks - that's about what I thought.
Paint was tatty/worn when I got it but it was otherwise in good nick.
Rather than try to bodge up the existing paint I thought I'd go for a clean start.
It makes no difference to the price you'll get for the frame, but you will have spend £80 (or whatever) doing the powdercoating. A while ago I spent £80 respraying a GT frame and ended up selling it for £85, hardly worth it.
I'd always prefer a crappy frame that I know hasn't got anything 'hiding' underneath. There's always the suspicion in my mind you're buying a rubbish frame with fancy stickers on.
Thanks, I had it powder coated for my own benefit a couple of years ago. Have ridden it and loved it ever since.
Its just that im a bit fickle and fancy a change now!
It would lessen the chance of a sale for reasons mentioned above. I would never buy a resprayed/coated frame
As others have said, it makes me wonder what it's hiding or just makes me think its had a hard life. I would rather buy a tatty frame and sort it myself. But some may think it's more shiney.
Saccades - MemberI'd be thinking "what's that new paintjob hiding?"
I'd be thinking, what do you think it's hiding? 😕
cracks, or badly re-welded cracks.
Brand new paint/coat could hide cracks, though not welds. But a "worn-in" respray/coat like this one would soon show cracks again.
De-value always for non factory modifications. How on earth would it add value?
I wouldn't be bothered if it was powder coated, so long as it wasn't a gopping colour!
If its an older (and high end) lugged road frame then you'll actually be removing value. All that lovely detail put in by the builder filled in my clumsy amounts of powder = fail.
If its a daily use bike/ mtb of not particular worth then yeah, its a good selling point. But a £100 worth of frame + £75 of powder does not equal £175. maybe £125 and will sell easy at that price I guess feels right to me.
It could be hiding a shitty chroming job that's covered in lots of unsightly rust and pitting like the powdercoat on mine is.
It would make a frame less saleable in my eyes.
No - I sold a Life for £120. your Breath is worth about £100 uncoated, now about £80. Sorry.
Resprays detract in my book. Original paint has provenance and authenticity.
Resprays are often coloured based on some whim of the owner (match the curtains, their shoes, whatever) and Ive seen a few where they actively put me off despite the fact it was a good job
As above, I'd never buy a resprayed frame. I like to know roughly how much use a frame has seen, original paint can give you an idea depending on how tidy it looks.
As above, I'd never buy a resprayed frame
Really?
What, even if I advertised my Inbred (assuming you we're looking for an Inbred!) which would go something like this:
(It's not for sale, but if it was...... )
[i]On One Inbred 853. One if the limited run of 100 geared frames made about 5 years ago. Has been professionally resprayed by Argos Cycles in Bristol with new decals under the lacquer. Paint is their military spec 2 pack epoxy, which is tough as old boots. At the same time I had the driveside chainstay replaced to my spec (different bend) to cure the chain suck problems that were common on these frames. This has worked as the paint is still nearly unmarked after 3 years. Receipts from Argos Cycles for £220 to prove work done.
Apart from that its a 100% straight and true, no damage other than cosmetic since the renovation. Lovely, unique, frame. £175 (no offers)[/i]
You honestly wouldn't buy that? Just because its been sprayed?
That's about the sort of price these frames sell for when they come up, which is very rare.
I've got a 1993 Explosif that's even better than that too..... You'd rip my arms off for that if you were looking for one. 🙂
Cynical old bunch on here!
My local powdercoater is cheap as you like, and does a really good job. I've had a few DH frames over the years that were looking pretty tired after a seasons racing, and proving hard to sell just because they look tatty, although structurally fine.
Quick trip to the powdercoaters, back in a sensible colour, new decals, bearing refresh & they all sell very quickly, for considerably more money.
Hi Dangerboy,
Going off topic a bit here, but if you do decide to sell it please let me know as I'm still on the look-out for one...
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wtd-still-looking-for-a-steel-frame-soul-duster-sanderson ]My STW ad[/url]
Cheers!
I bought a very tired looking Cotic Soul some time ago, respray and better hose and cable guides plus a set of crud bosses, all on Orange with original bosses. Definitely worth more - about as much as the work cost though. It was lovely!