If I did, I would spend a lot of time in my bike, seething...
Know of a couple of ladies that led a shop social ride, and some new blokes turned up and we're all 'ffs this is going to be slow and boring' etc. Even at social pace they were blowing out of their arses trying to hang on at the back...
[i]The bloke in the OP story sounds like a prat.[/i]
Yeah, but he's got a bird that rides, and I haven't ๐
Overtaken? Chance would be a fine thing. I'm always found languishing at the back from the start of uphills of any consequence. ๐
Have never been overtaken by a woman on a bike; it's one of the things I take pride in.
I did have a close call once on the Whinlatter red route; I noticed there was a woman behind me approaching quite quickly (she must've been a sponsored rider). I pedalled as hard as I could to the top of the climb so she couldn't pass; I would have dropped her on the downhill (due to my larger balls and more aggressive bike handling skills) but I had to pull in to check my phone and catch my breath.
If I ever do end up getting overtaken by a woman, I'll probably quit cycling.
Subtle as ever, dtf...
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Is this the right thread for willy waving? ๐
I was once the first man in a fairly major event. When asked my opinion I always pointed out that the first woman beat all the other men too, and at least I beat all of them.
Have competed with and against far too many extremely good women to be at all bothered about being overtaken by one. Though as one of those was Emma Pooley, my male ego requires me to point out that I once towed her up a hill on the bike (she was a faster runner than me at the time).
Might have got a little upset in my prime 20 years ago, but these days in my 40s and nowhere near as fit, I couldn't give two hoots who overtakes me!
I don't mind who overtakes me! (although I reserve the right to be grumpy if you don't say hi).
I do however think that we all have that competitive gremlin inside us, I think we'd all admit to trying to catch that person a little further up the trail or to hanging on to the coat-tails of the person who has just gone past (be that a man/woman/child/gruffalo).
And there was me thinking his name was Andrew Racer...
*full disclosure*
My ego Took a battering a couple of years ago at a pmba enduro when a 16 y/old girl we were camped next to, and we'd been giving pointers to on drops and jumps etc as it was her first race that wasn't an xc race, smashed my stage times.
Turns out that girl was Martha Gill, and she's now bothering the podiums of the U23 EWS races, having been snapped up by Marin stans racing, on the recommendation of Tracey Moseley....
I'm so used to getting passed 'cause I'm slow and unfit that it really makes no odds to me at all whether they're male or female! I'm just in the process of joining a roadie club and am fully expecting to have my arse handed to me by nearly everyone (male or female) on the climbs.
I mind being overtaken by everyone... But I have gotten used to it, as I am pretty slow and fat! ๐
no, why would anyone with half a brain mind.
Only idiots like DTF are going to say otherwise.
The sex of the person is irrelevant. I only mind being passed in two instances:
1) they slow down having just passed,
2) people who you have already passed, make an effort to set off ahead of you at a set of lights, having caught you up while you were waiting, forcing you to pass again.
EDIT
THREE! Three instances, no 3 being during a race, and as I'm not normally racing in a mixed event, being passed by a woman is of no consequence.
Chum - I suffer from the opposite of your point2. Often I get passed then the person passing me accelerates really slowly away from the next lights forcing me to either overtake or be slower accelerating than I like. I run low gearing and tend to sprint away from lights to keep ahead of traffic and this is with roadies who run high gearing so don't accelerate as fast
Shouldn't ladies always come first ?
[i]Hijack[/i]
[b]tjagain[/b]
I personally don't see what benefit sprinting off the lights gives. If the traffic is faster than you, then they will overtake anyway, and if the traffic is slower than you then smashing it past slow / stationary traffic doesn't seem the safest.
I'd rather let the queue of cars pass quickly when I'm going slowly, then have them stacked up behind, waiting to pass when I'm fully up to speed further down the road.
I suggest that roadies have plenty of gears to accelerate quickly off the lights, but just choose not to...
Interesting to hear other perspective though.
[i]Hijack End[/i]
Do you mind being over taken by middle-aged women?!
If shes wearing lycra and got a nice arse, it's my pleasure.
A wolf whistles always appreciated ime.
was overtaken by a female on the Gap ride last year.
she caught up, had a chat, then sailed past like it was flat laughing and singing as she did, we carried on..... then she came back down past us heading to the bottom, then did the climb again. We did beat her to the top (her second) and one of my group beat her down the other side (just)
quick as *
really nice too, we all had a bit of a chat while we regrouped and fixed punctures.
In her own words "im one of those sick *s who loves climbing"
Rickie, we salute you.
+1 (tho TBH I haven't ridden with any of them recently)I ride with women who call it being "chicked" so I do as well.
Got dropped by a lady on a hill last week and it didn't bother me, mind you the bike had a big grey pack over the back wheel (not a traditional pannier) so I have been wondering if it was an ebike.
Does that thought betray the fact that maybe I do care after all? Dunno.
While commuting people fairly regularly pass me, sometimes if I'm in the mood I'll chase them regardless of gender, but I won't have a hissy fit if I fail to catch them, other times I'll just let them go, but if there's a headwind I most likely [i]will[/i] try to draft them ๐
Having been overtaken by a cheery lady jogging along while pottering along on MTB looking at the moss on a drystone wall during my early 20's, I seem to take a slightly more 'zen' approach to riding my bike, in it being about my frame of mind and my experience in connection with the trail and the surroundings, there's always going to be times when somebody overtakes me. Breathing in fumes less deeply by going more slowly when in traffic isn't a bad thing I think too.
This sounds a little bit pretentious perhaps - but it's close to what I mean. I don't mind being overtaken by anybody. ๐
Edit: Said cheery lady said 'It's quicker on your feet' while jogging past. The fact she was female didn't bother me at the time - more her cheery running past - ness. Quite funny too though.
Edit number 2: Having overclimbed during my teens and ended up with dodgy elbows, after feeling fed up about it for ages. I think I've decided long term ability is more important than shorter term performance, in terms of having a usable body and being healthy, with just getting out and riding frequently being my goal. Any increase speed will naturally follow is my thinking after a lay off, as my body adapts again. I'll still be riding in my 70's with this approach I hope.
Chum - I am commuting across a busy city centre. I am usually going to hit the next lights in a couple of hundred metres. there are ASLs at all the lights. If I sprint away I can pull out into the middle of the road to avoid the parked cars etc before the cars catch up and then they can see the next red light when they do catch up so don't need to overtake at all and I don't have to filter to the front again. I am always quicker than a car on my commute. the slow accelerating roadies prevent me from doing this.
lot of junctions round here are pinchpoints or have them just after the junction, sprint (and/or "anticipate" the lights on especially bad junctions) to get past those (and help avoid left hooks) and then it's safer for overtakes.I personally don't see what benefit sprinting off the lights gives.
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Judging by my experiences commuting in Sheffield, there are a few male commuters here with issues - either they object to being overtaken by a woman, or by a rider on a hybrid, or both, but they have to try to overtake again...If you ever have a guy on a black Ccotic Soul with a usually grey rucksack and a frantic pedalling style seem to be doing this to you be assured it's because I'm generally running late when cycling into town from vaguely around the university roundabout neck of the woods of the city - am always 'just in time' for things. I can't speak for anybody else - but I inherit my time keeping from my Dad. I'm sure to be overtaken again making my way back up the Sheffield hills. ๐
Not in the slightest!
When growing up, archery was my sport and I used to share the line with Alison Williamson. She went on to win an Olympic bronze medal at Sydney, I grew old and fat.
I got used to my ass being handed to me at an early age!
Damn right! I get annoyed by ANYONE passing me. Although it's becoming more and more of a problem. Hopefully I'll desensitize to it at some point.
I'll just leave this here: http://pickled-hedgehog.com/?p=53
that article was pimped around the internet until it found the person who I'd been racing in a non racing manner. She was county level something - running I think so at least I had an excuse.
And for the record, I don't care at all. I remember Jenn overtaking me on one of the early D2D, slowing down for a chat while I struggled to breathe then disappearing off with a breezy wave.
Always found the getting miffed about being overtaken an odd macho trait TBH. Don't get me wrong in a race/competitive situation I am as ruthless as anyone.
When I'm in the car, van or on the bike if someone wants to pass and it's safe to let them I do. It doesn't bruise my ego nor do I give a shite about whether it's man, women or child or the reasons for wanting to pass.
So long as they don't stick the boot in, clothesline you off the bike or nearly/cause a crash it's not a big deal is it.
Emily Chappell and Lee Craigie both overtook me last weekend in Wales, wasn't trying though....honest... ๐
I slow down on purpose so I can get an eye full of their ass
[i][I'll tell you what annoyed me... At the glentress seven, I got overtaken, and took an immediate morale boost from the lovely lycra clad bottom that was now in front. So I followed it up the hill with renewed vigour and eventually, hit a descent and tragically had to re-pass. AND IT WAS A DUDE.
Lovely bum though, still.][/i]
๐ I like that story, Northwind
I probably get passed by women all the time, but never notice as I'm too busy checking out what they're riding!
I wonder if it's something one can grow out of a bit - minding being overtaken that is? I used to measure myself against other people and be competitive, where as now it seems to be more about how hard I'm trying (or enjoying the scenery). At 36 I'm very different to my teenage or early 20's self.
I've only ever been able to overtake boys at trail centres.
At Dalby forest 2 chaps were 'holding me up' in the woods. Front rider shouts out to me 'do you wanna pass mate', I reply 'yes please', the 2 male riders did seem to be shocked to find a middle-aged woman trundle past. Made me chuckle.
Also last summer a close female friend and myself were on a local night ride. We were catching up a bunch of 5 blokes on every descent and ascent. Everytime we caught them having a breather, they looked miffed and raced off. Made my night.
Bunnyhop- middle-aged women can be a force to be reckoned with!
Chuckled at you being called "mate". I'm always being called mate, lad or feller!
I ride mainly with women...SO and daughter/s.....used to be being passed on the ups and downs, no problems, the phrase we hate is males going
Oh just been chicked.....
And then trying harder uphill or down.
My SO is 48 and regularly passes them good old enduro boys on then downs on her 29 er at 5 ft 2...... it s all about the errrrrrr.......
Daughters are even quicker and cannot be arsed racing and they get loads of comments which are inappropriate after passing males of various ages
I don't know how Id feel.
When it happens I'll tell you ๐
I hate being overtaken by women. They are what stands between me and the top step of the podium. ๐
It is not necessarily gender specific. In general I find people do not like to be overtaken, I am surprised how many times I overtake somebody only for them to up their pace and pass me again. I think there is a factor of how bruising the overtake is on their ego e.g. if I am wearing a suit, or I am carrying my dog then I find MAMILS are more likely to switch into race mode when overtaken.
Once upon a time on mass start events I would sometimes aim to stay in front of all the female competitors, but that was more because it was an easily definable goal to push me forwards rather than me having an issue being beaten by a woman. These days I am not even close to being fit enough to keep up with pro women so I have to settle for lower goals.
Mrs Weeksy handed me my ass on a plate at Rockingham this year on track... That wasn't particularly nice for me.... being overtaken on a racetrack by your wife REALLY stings... especially when you get back to the pits and both her and all your mates are giving you abuse ๐
Other than that... it doesn't bother me in the slightest ๐