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Currently ride an old 26 Ragley Piglet which I love but have had a few years. I had one when they first came out but the frame snapped. Had a few other bikes including a Soul but nothing did it for me quite like the Piglet. So a few years ago I picked up cheap second hand frame.

The frame is now getting cosmetically tired and the rear triangle doesn't appear to be straight (and never has done!) It's got some decent Mavic wheels and Rev forks so not looking to change wheel size. I was considering taking it to a frame builder to see if the rear end could be fixed and then getting it powdercoated. However, I see that On One are selling off 26 Inbreds for £150. The dark green looks quite nice. What are they like compared to the Piglet? Anyone tried both? And do I want one?



   
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Not ridden a Piglet but the two On-One frames I've had I've thoroughly enjoyed riding. Had a mk1 Inbred SS years ago which I thought rode as well, as my mk2 Cotic I also had at the time. If anything I enjoyed riding the Inbred more.
Second was one of the first generation 456 Summer Seasons. A great bike for just messing around on.



   
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It's a nailed on classic the inbred. The retro botherers will be turning them out in droves in a few years



   
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had 3 inbreds of varying types / styles - loved the ride but
not the "heft". Now have a Tinbred instead just as excellent
a ride 🙂

Go for it - you'll love it 🙂



   
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I aint rode a Piglet or a 26 Inbred, but owned a 29er Inbred since they came out. Fantastic ride. The frame has broke twice over the years (drive side dropout/chainstay area) which ive paid a welder a fiver to fix. Its as tatty as anything, but all the better for it!

£150? Cant go wrong mate.



   
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£150? Cant go wrong mate.

With the extremely variable quality of On-one/Planet X frame I reckon you can go very wrong.

I'd buy a decent second hand frame instead, I'll never buy anything from On-one now.



   
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£150? Cant go wrong mate.

With the extremely variable quality of On-one/Planet X frame I reckon you can go very wrong.

After how long riding a Piglet with a dodgy rear triangle would it matter? 😆

Sorry OP I couldn't resist 😉



   
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I got a mint used inbred frame for £50 including postage a while back. That's £100 to spend on [s]other shiny things you don't need[/s] important consumables



   
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I got a mint used inbred frame for £50 including postage a while back. That's £100 to spend on [s]other shiny things you don't need important consumables[/s] your next frame when you realise its been built by a blind leopard

FTFY 😉



   
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I have a Ragley Piglet 2 frame that I'm selling. I have had an original piglet, a 456 EVO and my mate has a summer season. The Piglet 2 is the best frame of those in my opinion. Decent sizing, nice head angle with 1.5 headtube, can run a sensible dropper post rather than something 27.2. Its near new condition and comes with headset and seatclamp. Pm me on here or email me at tomhib13@gmail.com if you want to know anymore.



   
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I think the Inbred may have changed significantly over time, particularly due to CEN. I had a 2013 example and it was ok but nothing like as lively and engaging as the Mk2 Soul I replaced it with. I wasn't particularly unhappy with the Inbred while I had it though.

I know this is an argument that gets recycled regularly and usually ends up being framed (sorry) as 'snobs vs on-one', but I think it's more basic. It's a bit silly arguing that 4130 and 853 produce the same ride but Ti is somehow magically different. Neither is especially 'better' than the other, but they are different and 853, Ti etc cost more for raw material than 4130, but have different characteristics.

Inbred frames aren't that expensive, if you have the build kit already there's really one way to find out. If 4130 does what you want it could be a winner!



   
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Had a few Inbreds , 26", 29" & single speed.
There must be something I like about them!
There's definately better frames out there, but not at Inbred prices. Not rode a piglet so can't compare directly.
I guess they don't do anything badly, they're a decent ride.
Maybe just try one? Think I paid £65 for my 29er Inbred frame 2nd hand, so you might as well!



   
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I love my 29er for natural riding in the UK. If they had some slot dropout 26er I would have another one.



   
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I've had all sorts of Inbreds over the years (three different dropout types, four sizes, two wheel sizes, you name it) and some have definitely been better than others.

The post-CEN one I had certainly didn't light my fire like the first-version geared DN6 did (my favourite one, in fact possibly my favourite MTB ever), though I have to caveat that by saying I didn't put that many miles on it, and it was a 20" when I always had far more fun on 18"s.

It (the CEN one) weighed a freaking ton, though. Over 2.6kg for the naked frame if I recall.



   
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I've also had a couple of inbreds in two wheels sizes. I still use the 20" green 26er post CEN frame (bought new for much less than £150 btw!) as a rigid town bike. You'll have no trouble with build quality really, they are tough old frames. But they are heavy, and the reason i didn't use the 26er frame for very long was because the BB was just too high and the HA a bit steep. They're fine for £150 but you might get a better deal 2nd hand on something with better geometry.



   
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I've owned three Inbreds of which I still have two; An original SS 853 V brake 26er and a much later 29er SS frame.

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I really like them and of the two newer 29ers the build quality and paint etc have been spot on.

About to add a Lefty to the SS one ..... All kinds of wrong 🙂

//Stealth WTD Ad ..... If anyone reading this has either a 19.5'' or 21'' geared 29er then please do let me know \\



   
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They can have my 2007 limited edition 853 Inbred when they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands. Best, most versatile bike I’ve ever ridden. Not without its faults and it’s been welded and resprayed twice but I’ll never sell it.



   
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After how long riding a Piglet with a dodgy rear triangle would it matter?

Sorry OP I couldn't resist

In fairness every time I go out on it I think to myself 'I wonder if that vagueness at the rear is 'cos the back wheel doesn't point the same way as the front.'

Thanks to all those who have commented, very useful. One advantage of the Inbred is that all the bits inc RSP dropper, will just bolt straight on without faff. That being said Tom's piglet 2 sounds tempting.

Plans may need to wait as dog needs a tooth taken out, £120 for pre general anaesthetic blood test. Eek. Anywhere between 250 and 350 for the op. Double eek. Hope the insurance covers dental.



   
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Loved riding my 26" SS inbred(it's about a 2005/6 I think) with a 130mm fork on it, it just felt right. Never thought it rode as well with gears on it mind, or with a shorter travel fork for that matter. Liked it as a rigid 69er too....
As for quality, never had any problems with my 2 Inbreds(26 & 29) or the 29er Scandal I've got.

At the end of the day, you get a cheap sorted frame with an OK paint job, that'll do the job very nicely...

I may even build the old 26" Inbred back up after realising how much I actually enjoyed riding it 😀



   
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Big fan of my 26" Inbred. In a size 18 and I'm 6'4". Tried a 20 and didn't like it...



   
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Aren't they stopping production soon?



   
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Apologies for the blatant advertisement, Got a matt black 853 geared medium 18" Inbred in excellent condition, hardly ridden, been stored for over 10 years. £100 posted.pics available.

Ive had most incarnations of the Inbred. Ti by far the best ride, but the 853 is almost as good. Great balanced ride, that is more zingy than the plain steel version.

I'm single speeding now, hence the sale.



   
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Just buy it and ride it like you stole it 😉



   
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doggycam, sent you a pm.

Tom13 sent you an email.

Unfortunately the minimum 20 quid postage from on one makes it a bit less of a bargain.



   
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Loved riding my 26" SS inbred(it's about a 2005/6 I think) with a 130mm fork on it, it just felt right. Never thought it rode as well with gears on it mind, or with a shorter travel fork for that matter. Liked it as a rigid 69er too

Similar experience here, although never ran out geared and it did snap after several years use (as have many SS parts I've had to be fair). I had sold it to a mate by then, he welded it up and as far as I know fine since.
I did find I crashed a lot riding it rigid 26er though. And it's not a light frame but then again you wouldn't be looking at steel of that was a priority. Being SS it was still a light bike despite no lightweight bits on it!



   
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Yes you do. Still running a 26er now as a fully rigid about town bike. Had it in various modes for over 10 years. Great cheap gun. Mines red as they go faster.



   
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I've had three Inbreds over 15 years or so.

Current one is 3 to 4 years old and had the best finish quality I've seen on a frame - way better than my Soul or Superlight. Ride it everyday as a single-speed.

First two we won't talk about (misaligned brake mounts, rusty gussets).

Have always enjoyed riding them.

There are better frames out there - but they cost a lot more.
There are worse frames out there - and they cost a lot more.
(Pipedream I am looking at you - ride is completely dead on my Scion despite 853 tubing and Soul geometry)

Buy the Inbred!



   
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How does one tell if an Inbred is pre- or post-CEN?

I've got the slot dropout red one, which seems to have been made in 2009 and 2010. This one: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/frames/mountain-bike/product/review-on-one-slot-dropout-inbred-frameset-09-34975/

I'm thinking about promoting it from its current use as my girlfriend's commuter up to winter hardtail.



   
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that's the one I've got, seller told me he bought it in 08. Pretty sure it's pre-CEN, the CEN regs kicked in around 2010/2011



   
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Post cen has meaty gussets at the headtube.



   
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It's a nailed on classic the inbred. The retro botherers will be turning them out in droves in a few years

Bet we don’t!

Couple of mates have had inbreds, both 29ers. One loves it and has built it up in various different configurations, the other never got on with his and moved it on quickly.

Think I would be looking for a better frame second hand in your position as there will be some lovely options for 150.



   
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Bet we don’t!

technically I qualify as "we", having got rid of a 96 Merlin XLM not that long ago 😉



   
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The post CEN and V2 inbreds have lots of gussets and the top tube is a larger diameter, hence the extra heft and not as nice to look at as the skinnier steel.



   
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Been riding a 2007 853 Inbred here since I bought it new. It's been built up a few ways and is currently in the process of having drop bars fitted! I've had such good times with it I'll always have it built up in some role.



   
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Post cen has meaty gussets at the headtube

I think DN6 Inbreds have always had gussets at the headtube. That’s how you know mine is the 853 despite its current lack of badge - no gussets. 🙂



   
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I've had 26 inbred, 29 scandal, 26 456, 29 inbred in that order. Scandal is my favourite & still got it - the others all long gone.

The 2012 (29) inbred was a lot stiffer than the 2008 (26) version. similar to the 456; you could see that the 456 & later inbred had the same size DT/ TT whereas the earlier inbred had a smaller dia TT.

Scandal is stiff and responsive, whereas the stiffer inbreds were stiff and heavy.

TLDR: buy an early inbred or a scandal. Avoid the later inbreds with the fat top tube.



   
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I think DN6 Inbreds have always had gussets at the headtube. That’s how you know mine is the 853 despite its current lack of badge - no gussets.

Yep - or at least my red slot dropout one does, which people seem to think is pre-CEN. Seems toptube diameter is the tell.



   
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I like my inbred 29er. No idea what year, it was 2nd hand 5 years ago.

Pros: cheap, "strong and stable" (for real lol), takes all the (substantial) abuse I throw at it e.g. BPW reds or MBR trail at CyB, I'm not light and hopefully not that slow

Cons: paint job. Old straight steerer hurts fork compatibility these days. 27.2 seat tube hurts dropper compatibility likewise. Not light.

Thinking of tapered forks and fat droppers I'd go for a different frame if I broke it, but it's fine for now.



   
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I'm building my old 29er one up with rigid forks, narrow straight bars, bar ends, 40c tyres and 1x10. Strikes me as a better option than a trendy gravel bike. I think I'll call it the Hybred.



   
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Well, after a bit of hmming and harring I've vaguely followed the thread's advice and bought doggycam's 853 inbred.

Gonna give my Revs a service and clean all the mud n muck of the drivetrain this weekend ready to build up the Inbred next week.

Big thanks to all those who commented.



   
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I have a 29 Inbred, heavy but once it gets going to flies along. Strong, stable, pretty nimble etc.The paint is appalling.Just get some really good wheels.

Often ride with guys on carbon £6k bikes and match on the flat and downhill, but they lose me on the ups (which is why they got them). I do remind them if we crash they will probably put an insurance claim against me due to cost of bike...



   
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Well, after a bit of hmming and harring I've vaguely followed the thread's advice and bought doggycam's 853 inbred.

They are great frames...with the exception of chainring clearance



   
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Not in for sale section but I can vouch for the inbred. I’ve had a few and thoroughly enjoyed them. However a bike has come up that I want so thinking of selling mine. Can get photos and info if at all interested pal.



   
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Thanks,but all sorted now. Will post up some pics once I've built it up.



   
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In closer reading, my steel inbred is the one with the fat top tube eschewed by others on this thread. I still like it though. Did 2h of child towing today followed by a steep loam descent (sans trailer! )



   
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