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Hi Chris

Got my kit yesterday and started building it, a couple of questions, with the Laura Optics do I glue them to the stars or to the flange at the front of the casing? And is there an idiots guide to programming the driver, I had a look at the Taskled website and was slightly confused. I am only looking for a high, low, off setting.

Mounting the light to my helmet using a Halfords helmet bracket for £4.99, will post some pics up once its finished.


 
Posted : 10/03/2011 9:51 am
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You glue them to the flange at the corners and then the lexan to make it all nice and waterproof

a gaggle of pic to help here http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa46/amticoman/DIY%20STEP%20BY%20STEP/

I was going to add some text to them but need a roundtuit

afraid you will need to read and inwardly digest the Effing manual


 
Posted : 10/03/2011 3:17 pm
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Can I inadvertantly set the output current to 6000mA and fry my LEDs?
Printed the manual off, might understand it on the 5th pass.


 
Posted : 10/03/2011 3:22 pm
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Yes thats possible

one thing that is important is to set the thermal protection to 50 or 60 degrees


 
Posted : 10/03/2011 3:29 pm
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Would I be able to get the single kit without the housing/mount? If so, how much?

I'm assuming I could run the LFlex with a 7.4V pack.

Thanks
Amit


 
Posted : 10/03/2011 11:37 pm
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Trout- did you recieve my money for the Bflex driver?


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 1:20 am
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Amit

Afraid you cant use single led and Lflex on a 7.4 volt pack
one xml Lflex = 3.7 volt battery
2 xml / Lflex = 7.4 volt battery

Ambrose Checked my paypal acc and no monies from yourself in there


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 8:16 am
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Hey Troutie, any news on the lupine [s]night[/s]troutmare conversion?
😆


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 8:20 am
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Hi Netdonkey

I have only just got to it in the order of things its not looking good
as a host very limited space inside with awkward lips so a heatsink
wont just slip in there .
I need a bit of staring at it but am going to the lakes for a week so wont be able to do owt till I return.

I gather you are in the area this weekend I can leave you a Double XML light and battery built up
as in the kits to have a go with and see what you think .
as the cost of one of those kits ready built would be about the same as buggering about with the Lupine head .and handle the heat better too


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 8:50 am
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Trout,

If you think the double XML is a better way forward then I am happy to take you advice. How about I take a double XML kit off you and I can stick the old lupine on the commuter / lend to a friend list. Let me know how much you want based on the money I paid u last time. Are they in stock? I could pick one up this weekend?

Many thanks this is proper public service stuff


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 9:05 am
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man you do some cool lights (currently have a hope vision epic 2 led lightset/have wanted some of your powerful lights for a while)unfortunately am paying for some rush tickets,then i have to buy a new guitar/amp as i sold my last ones to pay some bills.i can assure you though that when i have the funds,i will be contacting you to buying some of your lights.sorry to drone on,but you definitely do some great lights. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 10:11 am
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Botheration- I'll try again.

Is it the blueyonder email address you want me to PPal the money to?


 
Posted : 11/03/2011 4:17 pm
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Hi Yah,
Would a Llabartlett please check his inbox settings or send me his details again from another email address.
I have tried replying but my replies keep getting bounced back to me.
Thanks
Smudge


 
Posted : 13/03/2011 9:14 pm
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Finished building my Troutie 1800 Lumen light last night, and wanted to share some of my experiences.

I found it really hard to solder to the Taskled Driver, the solder pads are tiny and you need a small tip on the soldering iron and a steady hand.
Don't use too much sealant when you glue/seal the Optics/Lexan, I used far too much and it ended up between the Optic and the Lexan, fortuneately I was quick enough to disassemble and wipe the excess glue off.
Its easy to program the Driver, don't be put off by the manual, read it several times and then read it again, as long as you can count to 13 it shouldn't be a problem.

Using it for the first time tonight, it was really impressive when compared to a P7 in the back garden.
I was surprised by how hot the case got, I have set the thermal cutout to 50 degrees C, so hopefully it will be fine.

Many thanks to Troutie for an excellent piece of kit.

Doug


 
Posted : 15/03/2011 11:05 am
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Cheers Doug.
I was wondering when some of the builds would surface.

Yes the lflex is a bit on the small size. but a nice little driver .
once you are out on the trails heat should not be a problem and of course the driver
will look after the leds and itsself


 
Posted : 15/03/2011 12:45 pm
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Hi Chris,

Thanks again for leaving the bits out for me. I had a quick look around the box but could not spot the lupine. Any chance you could post it back to me at some point? Let me know the cost and I will paypal you it.

I have a 7.4 and 7.2 battery in the garage. I was planning on using the 7.4 but wondered what would happen if I use 7.2 (The 7.2 is nominal so wondering if the company are being cautious with a 7.4 setup?) am i likely to fry anything or will it just not work?

My final question before I finish the wet and drying and send it off for anodising is about setting the power. I am tring to work out what to set low med and high to based on your beam shots. Should i be going for 500ma 1500ma and 3000ma?

Hoping to take some build photos and post back soon


 
Posted : 15/03/2011 2:33 pm
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NetDonkey - I have my configured in Duo Mode with L5 at 3000mA, once you have your head around how to configure the driver, its really easy to change the setup.

Not sure how you determine what your intermediate power levels are, you configure the driver to give the Max current L5 and the other levels are scaled from this, there is a table for the H6Flex (I am assuming you are using the LFlex) which gives current output for each power level, but this is for the older driver which doesn't support 3000mA.


 
Posted : 15/03/2011 4:03 pm
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First ride last night, and the light was amazing (for 10 minutes), it was totally swamping the 4x XPGs that I was using on my bars, the Laura Optics give a nice wide beam without the sharp cutoff at the edges that the Reginas give.
Unfortuneately after 10 minutes the light would only turn on for 60 seconds before flashing 8/9 times and turning off. Once home I got out the manual to find that the default Voltage Cut-off was set at 12V and I was using a 12V battery, I tweaked it down to 11V and it seemed to be OK until the Thermal Cut-out kicked in, when the light dimmed, this was indoors with no airflow and the casing got quite hot to the touch, once cooled full power was again available.
I have charged the battery (12V Lion CCTV battery from Ebay) and will try a full run tonight.


 
Posted : 16/03/2011 9:17 am
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thesurfbus - is this the type of battery you are using?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Portable-12V-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack-4800mAh-/250725312575?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6064a83f

If so could you let me know the dimensions and weight? It looks like the chepest way of powering the light. Although it looks like you might be having problems...


 
Posted : 16/03/2011 9:41 am
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I've been using one of those to power a p7 for a while (and a brief test on a twin XM-L was fine).

110x60x15mm
~210g


 
Posted : 16/03/2011 10:08 am
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FunkyDunc - Yes thats the battery, I have been using it with 4x XPGs with no problems, they seem to have got cheaper as well, think I will buy another.
The only downside to the battery is the shape, as it doesn't lend itself to fitting on a frame, I had been mounting mine to the headtube with a big Velcro strap. I did start to take it apart to see if it could be rebuilt in a different shape, but gave up and put it back together.
There is another CCTV battery that is twice the size, which I might fit into a water bottle for the bigger rides.

I am hoping all my problems will be sorted now.


 
Posted : 16/03/2011 10:48 am
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There is also a [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120695005360&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT ]6800mAh[/url] version which is 85x62x20mm, this would extend the battery life of two XMLs on full to just over 3 hours, there is also a tiny 1800mAh version which would be handy to keep in the back pocket as a backup.


 
Posted : 16/03/2011 11:24 am
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I ran a soak test last night on the light, I set the Voltage Cutoff to 10V and the Thermal cutout to 60 degrees C, I was using a 12V 4800mAh battery.
The ambient temperature was 3 degrees C, but after 10 minutes the Thermal Cutout kicked in, I had an old computer fan which I rigged up and there were no further Thermal Cutouts.
The light ran for just under 90 minutes on high (3A) power, where the Voltage Cutout switched the light off, I checked the battery with the multimeter and it was 10.3V.
So the light performed perfectly, the only thing I need to tweak is the Voltage Cutoff, I was thinking of setting it to 9V (75%), any thoughts if this would damage the battery?


 
Posted : 17/03/2011 9:19 am
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I wouldn't worry about heat. My twin xm-l setup has (I would guess) half the surface area and is only vaguely warm to touch when riding (30C at most).

My P7 setup is similar outside but when it's occasionally used in the attic it will get to over 60C in a matter of minutes. Amazing what a bit of airflow will do.


 
Posted : 17/03/2011 10:07 am
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Hello to trout,iv sent you a couple of emails,just wondering if you got them as my mail is playing up,iv been communicating with smudge by text?it was to order two twins and one single.please.


 
Posted : 17/03/2011 3:53 pm
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Hi, Could I also request a price for a Lflex driver, XML led and regina reflector. Many thanks great post


 
Posted : 17/03/2011 10:52 pm
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i am away on hols till the weekend with very iffy tinternet so will catch up with the mails when I get back


 
Posted : 18/03/2011 6:52 am
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Lowered the cutoff voltage to 9V and ran the light until it cut out, again got just under 90 minutes on Full Power,.
I guess its no surprise but those cheap 12V CCTV Batteries are not as good as they say on the tin. But at £15 a pop they are still good value for money.
Not looking forward to the clocks changing next week, as it will be less time to use my lovely new light.


 
Posted : 18/03/2011 8:42 am
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Right project finished. I decided on a trimode set-up using the 2nd, 4th and 5th brightness settings. I found, filing the LEDs a bit fiddly. you have to get pretty close to the pads. Other than that all went well.

I was going to have the case anodised but had heat and conductivity concerns and a burning desire to finish it.

Here are the beam shots using a 7.4v 6800mAh battery at a 3000mA drive current. burn times to follow

[b]L2[/b]

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[b]L4[/b]

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[b]L5[/b]

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Posted : 18/03/2011 8:35 pm
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Hello smudge,batteries received,many thanks for fast services.


 
Posted : 21/03/2011 4:38 am
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Thanks reg.
Happy light building 🙂

Smudge


 
Posted : 21/03/2011 9:12 pm
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Hello trout,got new mail address so sent it over.Many thanks Reg


 
Posted : 28/03/2011 5:31 pm
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Trout YHM ta


 
Posted : 01/04/2011 10:34 am
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Trout, got your email regarding demoing a 2 x XML & replied, would like to pick it up asap, could you reply please


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 5:42 pm
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Interested in a pair of XMLs optics and driver, but wanted to use my existing Hope2 housing and battery - have you got a price please?
Thanks
Tom
PS did e-mail but seen you've had problems... :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 09/04/2011 12:54 pm
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Thanks trout,to those who cant get through be patience,worth the wait extremely nice bloke,many thanks Reg..


 
Posted : 11/04/2011 7:05 am
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Trout, or others...

I'm part way through my build and at the stage of gluing the optics on to the stars. The stars are fully screwed down on to the heat sink, but when I put the optics on top they protrude above the internal flanges of the casing.

I thought the clear plastic lens cover is glued flush on to the internal flange with the optics below, however with the optics as they are the cover will just sit on top of the optics in a sense 'floating'.

Is that correct or should the optics be far enough inside the case that the lens cover fits firmly on to the flange (as it looks like on page 2 of this thread)

Hope this makes sense…


 
Posted : 21/04/2011 8:02 am
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Hi Dunc

no the lexan cover sits on the lenses and is then glued in

you want a small blob of glue on the flanges for the corners of the optics

the corners of the optics sit on or just above the ledge`s


 
Posted : 22/04/2011 6:49 am
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I'm part way through my build now, unfortuntaely a broken wrist has stopped me.

I decided to spray paint the casing with this http://www.plasti-kote.co.uk/Product/pcode---4427/pccode---6751 which is rated to 120 degress so should hopefully be ok and only cost £3 a can.

I was expecting the build to be harder than it was and the case etc to be quite basic. However what you are actually getting is a well engineerd kit to put together at home!

This is what that part finished light looks like.

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and fron the rear with power cable still to be fitted...

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with cheap ebay battery which will be frame mounted in an old SMART lights battery pack.

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Posted : 26/04/2011 10:23 am
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FunkyDunc - I couldn't get my Ebay battery like yours to work properly, the light turns off after about 1 minutes use, there is nothing wrong with the battery as its fine on a 4x XPG set up, but I think that it just can't supply the current that the XMLs require.
I currently use 4x 18650 batteries with no problems.


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 10:58 am
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OK finally got my lights fully built and hit a BIG problem.

The cheap Ebay battery has a charger, but even after 8 hours charging the green charged light didnt come on. SO I ran the light not knowing if fully charged or not. It ran for 95 minutes on full and then switched off, no flashing for low volatge.

Ive tried recharging but as thesurfbus above says, it is now only lighting for approx 1 minute before shutting off.

So basically probably not a good buy!

Whats the next cheapest way of getting a reliable battery pack working? Is it 18650 cells I wouldnt have thought 4 x would give much run time on full??

Which cells and charger would people recommend?

Thanks


 
Posted : 09/07/2011 12:27 pm
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for battery packs try someone like

rcmdirect

for one of the RC retailers in the uk usually one of them will have a special on the Li poly pack you want

for a cheap balance charger try one of the esky units are good

I've been using li poly's for seveveral years without any problems but have a look at the safety faq's on some of the RC sites (as long as you treat them with respect they're fine)


 
Posted : 09/07/2011 1:06 pm
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I've got the 900 version and I'm using 2 18650's in series?? to give me 3.7v and 5200mah (helmet mounted) yeah it probably won't give me much burn time at full whack but not planning on using it on full all the time anyway!


 
Posted : 09/07/2011 1:07 pm
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I think this is smudge from this forum who has a good reputation for supplying batteries
http://www.mtbbatteries.co.uk/index.html


 
Posted : 09/07/2011 1:54 pm
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+1 for Smudge. He helped me with an old TrailTech HID
My current Troute light is Smudge batteried and runs for ever!


 
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