[Closed] Did I see Mark Cavendish in the Peak District today?

Yes it was him.

If this is the Peaks, then yes, he was there.
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Yes, he was over Tideswell/Cat & Fiddle way today, Snake Pass yesterday. He's been doing some track stuff at Manchester too . I saw him briefly, surrounded by a horde of schoolchildren, all pointing mobile phone cameras at him. 🙂

Had a nice chat with Peta, his girlfriend. Little baby Delilah was fast asleep bless her, she was ever so sweet. About a week old.

Well spotted to all that caught him.

Cav's not a climber by any stretch of the imagination yet here he is in the Peaks doing a bit of training and in reality he'd make everyone on this site look foolish in the hills. Makes you think doesn't it...

Did anybody out riding come across him and stay with him, and was it a struggle?

scotty38 - Member

Well spotted to all that caught him.

Cav's not a climber by any stretch of the imagination yet here he is in the Peaks doing a bit of training and in reality he'd make everyone on this site look foolish in the hills. Makes you think doesn't it...

he would make most British pro's look foolish. Because he doesnt climb like Schlek, C'ntador etc doesnt mean he cant climb.

Virtually no one on this site would stay with him if he was climbing full tilt. He's won MSR FFS !!!

Because he doesnt climb like Schlek, C'ntador etc doesnt mean he cant climb.

Margin Walker - Member

he would make most British pro's look foolish. Because he doesnt climb like Schlek, C'ntador etc doesnt mean he cant climb.

Virtually no one on this site would stay with him if he was climbing full tilt. He's won MSR FFS !!!

That's what I meant really.

You say "virtually" no one on this site? 🙂

Some people are very confident of their climbing on here aren't they

I think on UK length climbs he wouldn't get dropped so I suspect few on here could stay with him...

[quoteDid anybody out riding come across him and stay with him, and was it a struggle?

Not Cav but have ridden with Geraint Thomas, they are worlds apart from any "normal" cyclist. They make what feels like going fast to mere mortals look easy.

didn't he get KOM points in the tour of Britain once? They'll be virtually no climbs in the UK that he can't fly up...

People also foget that when you watch him climb in the grand tours its about 40 degrees and the heat is bouncing off the tarmac, severe.

Oh and he's prob done about 1500K's over the last few weeks.

He still does not look like a cyclist, although he's World Champion.

kingkongsfinger - Member

He still does not look like a cyclist, although he's World Champion.

Behave yourself, there's a good lad!

didn't he get KOM points in the tour of Britain once?

scotty38 - Member

That's what I meant really.

You say "virtually" no one on this site?

I was covering my back in case a proper pro (for whatever unimaginable reason)uses this site.

(by proper I mean one who rides on the continent and not one of these pseudo british squads that does regional races and think they are the shizz)

Don Simon is right though -cav is shit , I take it all back.

(I secretly wish I could climb 6 cols in a day in a grand tour, day after day and still have enough in the tank to notch up stage win after stage win etc etc etc)

Wish he used Strava, that would settle the argument!

Margin Walker - Member

I was covering my back in case a proper pro (for whatever unimaginable reason)uses this site.

(by proper I mean one who rides on the continent and not one of these pseudo british squads that does regional races and think they are the shizz)

Very true. Very few people that can actually "ride" a bike need to come on here and tell anyone....

will - Member

Wish he used Strava, that would settle the argument!

or his world champion stripes could sway it.

scotty38 - Member
kingkongsfinger - Member

He still does not look like a cyclist, although he's World Champion.
Behave yourself, there's a good lad!

Its great, I mean it in a good way, he's not a super ripped/defined monster like Griepel/Sagan/Boonen et al but can still thrash the lot, and he's a Brit. Hoorah !

Does he use mapmytracks? Sky use it so he must be there and you can then see his ride, do the same ride and upload and compare the 2 rides...

Here he is, but hasn't shared anything - http://www.mapmytracks.com/MarkCavendish

shocker someone riding in Peak in World Champion shirt who actually is

Oh and he's prob [s]done[/s] [i]raced[/i] about 1500K's over the last few weeks

big diff between racing hills and riding hills - respect for even getting near the best in the world

DickBarton - Member

Does he use mapmytracks? Sky use it so he must be there and you can then see his ride, do the same ride and upload and compare the 2 rides...

Here he is, but hasn't shared anything - http://www.mapmytracks.com/MarkCavendish
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probably realises just how average he is 😀

Don Simon is right though -cav is shit

antigee - Member

big diff between racing hills and riding hills

Completely agree

- respect for even getting near the best in the world

His jersey would suggest he is the best in the world although I suspect I know what you mean....

don simon - Member
I think I said that he can't climb.
And losing 30 mins through Navacerrada and Bola del Mundo kind of says to me that he's a shit climber.

Kind of says to me you have no clue what you're talking about!

don simon - Member

Don Simon is right though -cav is shit

Come, come! I didn't say that now, did I? I think I said that he can't climb.
And losing 30 mins through Navacerrada and Bola del Mundo kind of says to me that he's a shit climber.

are we talking Vuelta 2010 ??

perhaps he was saving himself for one of his 3 stage wins or the points jersey overall which he won.

He isnt C()ntador (thank god) but we aren't saying he is.

He operates in a super elite band of top cyclists - you saying he cant climb, given his palmares, is simply farcical.

Margin Walker - Member
will - Member
Wish he used Strava, that would settle the argument!
or his world champion stripes could sway it.

Fair point. Would still put his rides & climbs in to perspective of us normal riders!

I was covering my back in case a proper pro (for whatever unimaginable reason)uses this site.

The proper pro in question has just read this thread.
😉

And losing 30 mins through Navacerrada and Bola del Mundo kind of says to me that he's a shit climber.

I reckon the gap between best in the world and shit would be more than 30 minutes.

given his palmares, is simply farcical.

Will, I agree - people have no idea how f'kin far ahead of normal riders someone like Cav is.

It would be simply ridiculous to even look at his figures.

For him to knock out 1500watts in Milan San Remo sprint after 200 miles, two climbs close to the end when everyone's on their knees and up against Fabu, haussler, Friere (etc etc etc)just puts into perspective how f'kin good cav is.

To say Cavendish is a shit climber is laughable, hes a sprinter that's his discipline he will say himself he dreads the climbs, that said on the stages that suit him hes awesome, respect where it due.

Crazy Legs ......you see these guys all the time at Velo. You know they are a world apart and Cav is on a different level again.

We can return to this in 8 years when his results simply confirm what I am saying.

flippinheckler - Member

To say Cavendish is a shit climber is laughable, hes a sprinter that's his discipline he will say himself he dreads the climbs, that said on the stages that suit him hes awesome, respect where it due.

And that's the point he dreads them in relation to the riders around him.

None of these riders are muppets no matter where they finish in any of these races. The difference between the "worst" of them and any of us is immeasurable.

Apology accepted margin_walker. 😆

OK, Cav. I reckon he's in the top 150 best climbers in the WORLD.

That's quite good.

I reckon he's in the top 150 best climbers in the WORLD.

As much as i would stick up for the fella I doubt that is true.

Its kind of like saying Schlek is a crap sprinter, I bet most Pro Tour riders are better Climbers,sprinter,downhillers,water carriers than anyone on here!

Four years as a water carrier for a small team in France during the 80's 😉

LOL Joxster that makes you the best water carrier on here!

Aha! Yes. Yesterday on the back road from Glossop to the Woodhead Pass or Holme Moss as it crosses the TPT.

Cool having a personal backup service, wondered if they would carry my 3.5 litres of drink, food, spares etc 🙂

Taylor Phinney puts some of his rides on strava

http://app.strava.com/pros/110144

he notches up a few KOM now and again

Joxster - Member

Four years as a water carrier for a small team in France during the 80's

Chapeau.

I wish I could climb as badly as Cav or even sprint as badly as Contador or Time Trial as badly as the Schlecks

but can he do the Werewolf Drop at Cannock?

Joxster - Member

Four years as a water carrier for a small team in France during the 80's

Go on then Joxster give us old boys a bit of a clue, what club did you ride for before you left...

My Dad (68) is on a training weekend in the Peaks in prep for his LE JoG ride this May with www.peak-tours.com

If CAV was looking a little grey, like he loves Red wine a bit too much and believed that Ginsters are energy bars then it coudl have been my old Man! 😉

and believed that Ginsters are energy bars

Are you trying to shatter my carefully planned fuelling strategy?

System U

Graham Jones ?

No and not Wayne Bennington either, rode with the feeder team MVCD and then as a stagier.

Joxster
System U? Don't tell me you carried water for Fignon? I remeber watching cycling as a kid and System U was an awesome team. You got out before it turn into Castorama?

System U - a small team in France during the 80's!

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he climb alp duex , more than i could do.

Joxster - Member

System U

Sorry, I meant UK club before you left for France. We're making an assumption you're British which of course you may not be....

he was out again today i got a nod off him near macc forest area - same jersey and moped following with spare wheels on.....was really really bizarre seeing him, he was attacking the toughest climbs around there....

bizarre seeing him on his own more than anything, would have expected him to have a team of riders pushing him along, but he was just cruising along in his own world...

Another big training day coming up today, as yesterday. You know it's a long one when your following scooter has to stop to refuel!

Rode for City of Edinburgh before moving to France when I was 16. Roomed with Charly Mottet and Vincent Barteau, spent 4 years riding myself in to the gutter.

That's a great quote Don Simon lol

Don Simon, define 'shit climber'. Shit compared to Contador, undoubtably. Shit compared to 99.9% of the cyclists in the world? I'd say definitely not.

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Is that a serious question warton?

If I was Mark Cavendish, upon reading this thread I'd probably bet a vast amount of money I wouldn't be beaten in any hill climb by a non pro. When someone of the "In the Cavendish can't climb" school of thought took the bait I'd probably organise said hill climb and either: Shortly after beginning, don a smoking jacket and ride past other cyclist whilst lighting a pipe/ ride side by side with the opposer, have a domestique deliver a tuba and do a quick re-enactment of the family guy scene with stewie and the fat guy/ dress as a clown and race on a bike with tiny wheels/ give the opposer a scooter and draft it like a derny pacer shouting allez! allez! before putting the hammer down and passing it.

(Un)Fortunately I'd imagine Mr Cavendish is a little more gracious than I, so we'll never get to see the spectacle of a naysayer being blown into the weeds up a dirty big climb, by the world champ riding up no handed whilst playing the tuba.

By way of a point to this post, I'd imagine he's actually quite handy up a hill...

Iain

@OW was that you talking to my partner? Freehub/pawls had gone on her bike. Second time Cav has passed me this weekend!!!

Joxster - Member

Rode for City of Edinburgh before moving to France when I was 16. Roomed with Charly Mottet and Vincent Barteau, spent 4 years riding myself in to the gutter.

SP by any chance and tricking us with the "jockster" name?

Or no trick and you're EA?

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kingkong that is a ****in wicked picture! Consider this, Cav was quicker than the winner of L'Etape (which was won by a recent pro and plenty of UK pros rode it too) on the corresponding Tour stage. I know that he had the benefit of the bunch to shelter in, but whilst he isn't a 'climber' by Pro Tour standards he is still immense.

When he rode the Tour of Britain last, he was one of about 20 or so riders that forced the selection on the relatively hilly second stage around staffordshire-the rest, including all but a couple of domestic pros just couldn't handle the pace. As others have said, you don't get up the Poggio and win MSR without being a bit special!

When he rode the Tour of Britain last, he was one of about 20 or so riders that forced the selection on the relatively hilly second stage around staffordshire-the rest

I think I recall Cav saying the TOB route was revisiting a climb that made him cry when he was a novice Pro!

 

Yeah it was....Gunn Hill near Leek [stw riding god mode] it isn't too hard a climb tbh [stw riding god mode/]

I watched the TOB come up the biggest hill by my house and they didn't even notice it.

I'm sure that they did notice you scruff, they were probably just too busy racing to show it.