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See, now it would help if the police said that.
Rather than "it was kinda your fault, don't do it again". "We're sorry, but X is the best we can hope for because a good lawyer would make sure that DD doesn't stick" is much more reassuring to hear.
I'm still waiting back to hear from the police (after 2 months) after a driver deliberately cut me up and stamped on the brakes, causing a collision. That could also be dangerous driving (on the due regard for cyclists and safe overtaking points mentioned above). That [i]is[/i] all shown on camera, so we'll see, but personal past experience suggests that as I said, the police don't follow CPS guidelines and downgrade the charges.
I was assaulted by a teacher in full view of witnesses, firstly directly (by trying to pull me off my bike by my hair) then by knocking me off my bike (he was on a bike).
I was 11yrs old.
I suffered a concussion that triggered frequent migraines for the next 10-15yrs, although I don't get them too often now, plus a couple of broken bones and other minor injuries.
He received a caution for common assault.
Life is a bitch sometimes. 😀
Yeah, but I'd imagine you probably deserved it 😉
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Those of you who are unhappy with the response from Nottinghamshire police should raise your concerns by writing to them at the address below detailing your reasons;Professional Standards Directorate
Police Headquarters
Sherwood Lodge
Arnold
Nottingham
NG5 8PPor by e-mail at psd@nottinghamshire.pnn.police.uk
Sent my message on Friday, but typically haven't received a reply!!
I'm really losing confidence in the police, on saturday the burglar alarm went off in the school across the road, there's no live in caretaker so I called the police on 101. They said that they'd only come out if I subscribed to their 'call-out' service!
I'd always thought that as a tax-payer I already subscibed enough, but apparantly not.
Maybe it was a false alarm, maybe somebody nicked all the computers or maybe it was kids trashing the classroom, but the police don't care........
Sent my message on Friday, but typically haven't received a reply!!
Not to take any sides, but that is quite a short amount of time to get pissy about a non-reply.
Not to take any sides, but that is quite a short amount of time to get pissy about a non-reply.
+1
I should probably also say that the course of action taken by the police wasn't all [i]that[/i] unreasonable IMO, it was the badly worded letter that (literally) added insult to injury.
Wow.
Police response is ridiculous. I can't think of any valid* mitigation for driving into the back of a cyclist indicating to turn right at a traffic island.
*Being on your way to your gran's funeral is NOT a valid mitigation nor is "I'm a ****-ing idiot and don't know how to drive"
No wonder they haven't replied, probably too busy having sex on duty (and knowing that they'll still keep their job if they're found out!!)
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/12/police-man-sex-gun-ankles-gwent
Deliberate collision IMO - time gap between horn sounding and impact gave plenty of time to slow / stop.
If the government really want to encourage people to use bikes, first they need to make them feel safe on the roads. A big part of that is making drivers aware that this kind of assault is not acceptable. Piss poor effort on the part of the police here....
Was that really an approprate dress for a funeral? And with those shoes to?
Or am I missing the point. ❓
I got a reply from the CPS......
Dear Chris,Thank you for raising this incident to our attention. May I assure you that the CPS treat cyclists as vulnerable road users with great consideration and identify that an act of Bad Driving can have much greater repercussions. We have recently updated our legal guidance on charging offences arising from driving incidents, careful consideration is given to all road users www.cps.gov.uk , following the link to legal guidance. The comments made by the police are not ones that the CPS have made, it may be worth noting that the fact that the driver was placed on a course does identify that there was some bad driving that needed addressing. It seems that the CPS had little, or no role in this case as it was a matter diverted, as it was felt that the driver did need educating with regard to his driving. The CPS would have been forwarded the case if the police had deemed that diversion was inappropriate. Clearly the police must have made this decision and we have had no role in it.
I have made these comments having only read the article. It would be unfair for me to comment on any offences to consider or the Highway Code as it would seem that this was a case that the CPS had no role in. I hope this assists,
Regards
Katy Waterman
Senior Policy Advisor
Strategy and Policy Directorate
United House
York.
Nice note from the CPS and the guidelines are improved.
The injustices are daily though, maybe its just me/us because we read them but every day there seems to be some new tragedy.
You do wonder at what point more direct action is justified? This is people lifes 2k per year and ten of thousands more seriously injured.
Not all cyclist but all victims of road traffic.
Not to take any sides, but that is quite a short amount of time to get pissy about a non-reply
OK, but I still haven't had a reply, even now.............
^^^^ sort it out, again, kimbers 😉
Finally got a reply:
[i]"I am unable to record this as an official complaint as you are not closely enough involved in the incident"[/i]
Not that I was actually making an official complaint, just raising my concerns, concerns which they seem happy to dismiss.................
Natrix - who should we address our follow up queries to? They need to answer this one.
who should we address our follow up queries to? They need to answer this one.
Like they said, "we" aren't in any way connceted the incident, therefore "they" can't (or rather won't waste their time) dealing with a non complaint to which they probably can't tell you anything about anyway as there must be data protection or other procedural issues with discussing cases with random members of the public just because they happen to have a mode of transport in common with a victim of crime.
If enough people show interest that sort of thing tends to get reviewed. Internally if not externally.