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The International Cycling Union (UCI) has approved disc brakes for competition in the 2010-’11 cyclo-cross race season.

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Here's a pic of mine

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That is a nice CX bike!

Think it'll take a season or two before we see the pro's on disk brakes due to the weight difference.

My new/1st CX bike arrives middle of next week. Its the first drop bar bike i will have owned since the early 90's.

Can't wait 😀

The dropout for the rear disk brake does not look very burly! Looks nice overall though.

graphics look a bit too reminiscent of Charge Bikes for my comfort.

So what brakes are being used for CX disk combination?

drop bar shifters are of course cable brake...

Marge - Member

So what brakes are being used for CX disk combination?

That's what I mean, there are no valid options for pro racers as yet. The big manufacturers will need to develop light weight units and compatible brake leaver/shifters. As I can't see them using cable disk brakes with DiaCompa leavers.

Oooh here's mine on that theme:

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SkillWill, what size is your Croix de Fer?

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There's talk that the UCI's reversal on the disc brake ban was driven by Shimano and that they have something ready to use in this upcoming cross season. could just be rumour of course but usually when the UCI changes tack on technical stuff like this it's because someone's petitioned them to do it...

wish my tricross had disc mounts 🙁

While I'd definitely have discs by preference, on a CX bike I just don't think that the benefits are there for most people to make them have a clear advantage over cantis/Vs in the way they do on mtbs.

Marge - Member
So what brakes are being used for CX disk combination?

drop bar shifters are of course cable brake...

I use Avid BB7's with STI's. There's also the BB5 but that's not as adjustable. I think that Shimano also do a cable disc that's compatible with road brakes.

Should certainly make it easier for fitting mud guards.

It will be interesting to see how fast this moves.
Manufacturers will be racing to get something out there, because it's a real opportunity.
I think there will be a large demand from amateur riders and gear freaks.

That Fixie Inc bike is pretty. about £2000 for that build though.

SkillWill, what size is your Croix de Fer?

It's a 58cm.

Love it!

Liking that On-One up there. Is that a normal 26" Inbred frame with 700cc wheels and drops on? V cool!

Clubber, I'm sure people said just the same thing about using disk brakes over v-brakes on mtbs a few years ago.

No, not really or at least not those of us with open minds and I recall plenty of people using them pretty quickly once they became available. I was a pretty early adopter of discs on mtbs too - 95ish - so I'm far from anti in general it's simply that cross bikes are very different. While I wouldn't even consider riding an mtb with cantis/Vs, I'll quite happily stick with them on cross bikes for now.

Liking that On-One up there. Is that a normal 26" Inbred frame with 700cc wheels and drops on? V cool!

Old Ti On-One 'cross frame made in limited numbers about 5 years ago. Wish I'd kept mine.

/\ thanks, thought it looked too CX specfic to be a converted MTB. Still V cool though

There's talk that the UCI's reversal on the disc brake ban was driven by Shimano and that they have something ready to use in this upcoming cross season

They already do - the Genesis Croix de Fer uses Shimano Road Disc Calipers. Assuming of course that the STIs are stock.

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EDIT: Ooops, just saw the other Croix de Fer posts above

it's simply that cross bikes are very different. While I wouldn't even consider riding an mtb with cantis/Vs, I'll quite happily stick with them on cross bikes for now.

Surely on a cross bike the advantages are similar to discs on an MTB? Better in mud, water, slime... Apart from weight, why would cantis be better?

The Avid BB7s on my On One above are road lever specific. They are different from the mtb lever type.

Cantis offer more space/tolerance around the rim, therefore making better/easier wheel changing possibilities, something that happens a lot in cross.

Dam. Why do i need a cross bike. I have 6 bikes, one of which is a road bike and one is a 29er rigid. Would I actually use it once the new bike novelty wore off. Pretty bike. Pretty bike. Can you say pretty bike.

any idea how much that pure blood is?

EDIT: Found it 2599 Euros!

Bit disappointing that its only cable disc brakes tho?

Yes, Shimano already have brakes that will work but they're hardly top of the range items that the pros will be choosing to use. Bet there'll be a lot more choices coming out in the next months/years that will be much smaller/lighter.

Surely on a cross bike the advantages are similar to discs on an MTB? Better in mud, water, slime... Apart from weight, why would cantis be better?

Yes, technically but the fact is that cantis are light and work just fine on the road (training/commuting) or for CX racing which I reckon is what most CX bike are used for.

I didn't think you used the brakes in CX racing...

i have just built up my new cx bike. no disk though.

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im sure it will serve me well in the falklands

I think you're rigt the top end weight weenies will stick with the lighter Cantis, but every amateur will switch to discs. The longevity of parts and ease of use will mean a massive new market for lightweight dropbar hydraulics et voila the big manufacturers convince us its essential and cantis become extinct.

As someone who rips through Open Pros on my audax bike I can't wait for more choice of disc forks / lightweight road discs and all the other stuff that'll come with mass marketing. I already run a Roadrat as a commuter because I can have a cable BB7 disc on the front so no rim wear in the winter.

Cantis offer more space/tolerance around the rim, therefore making better/easier wheel changing possibilities, something that happens a lot in cross.

Er, how can they possibly offer more space around the rim than a hub-mounted disc?

I can understand the "cantis work well enough" argument, although I'm not sure it's true - discs mean lower rim wear, too.

Edit: dyffers got the rim wear argument in first!

The thing is that the rim wear argument is really only for those of us (which does actually include me) who ride our cross bikes on offroad stuff that's mtb-like - eg muddy, steep, technical, etc - most people don't so it's no more of an issue than it is on the road.

If building up a new CX bike now, I'd have discs by preference but I won't be going to the effort of changing forks/wheels/frames just to get discs which I did with mtbs back in the day.

Sorry I meant the gap between the brake pads on cantis is wider then between the rotar and pads on a disk brake.

If building up a new CX bike now, I'd have discs by preference

Can you point me in the direction of a CX disc frame, I cant find one.

There are very few. I'm not changing my frame (actually about to get it repainted) so I'm not going to spend the time looking for you KT 🙂

(OK, quick google found this http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b104s212p4647&rs=gb )

Discs look cooler, too 🙂

yep, they do 🙂

They're going to look even cooler when Shimano et al come up with some really small, tidy ones too!

There are very few. I'm not changing my frame (actually about to get it repainted) so I'm not going to spend the time looking for you KT

(OK, quick google found this http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b104s212p4647&rs=gb )

I don't want that shit, it's steel.

Seriously though, my point was there are hardly any disc CX frames available at the moment.

Please tell me your not going to spray it purple.

You're right - not many out there but there are some and that's going to quickly increase I reckon.

Oh yes, purple ROCKS 😉

LOL, each to their own.

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I see lynskey have gone down the disk route for 2011.
Not sure about the oversize headtube, What do you think?

Expensive.

[url] http://www.somafab.com/frames.html [/url]

yossarian - Member

http://www.somafab.com/frames.html

More steel shit!

• 4.2 lbs (54cm)

4.2lb for a 54cm, I'd need a 60cm so that would be close to 5lb for a CX frame, no ta.

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My brother in laws new bike. Ok its mega money with Dura ace etc 😆

why dont you get a disk tab welded on to your current frame??

or
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KT - can't remember - have you got a CX bike or were you not allowed in the end?

clubber - Member

KT - can't remember - have you got a CX bike or were you not allowed in the end?

I'm working on getting one of those Planet X SL SRAM Red special offer bikes, if I do I'll use the kit from my current roadie to build a CX bike early next year, Dura Ace is a bit posh for a CX bike but it will have to do.

more steel shit

[url] http://www.brodiebikes.com/2010/bikes/ronin.php [/url]

Obviously there is the Genesis Croix de Fer as mentioned, this looks nice too:

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Alfine makes a lot of sense I think, maybe not for CX racing? Not sure...

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That's hideous.

Main disadvantage of discs for me is that's then another set of wheels! My road training wheels become my cross race wheels in winter. I've always got wheel options if anything happens to a wheel or hub. Discs means a lot of new hubs and rotors as well as losing the ability to them interchange from the road bike to the cross bike.

Will people please start posting pics of cross bikes, instead of these steel framed,single speeded,brooks saddle wearing abominations to all that is holy and Belgian! Thank you.

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Will people please start posting pics of cross bikes, instead of these steel framed,single speeded,brooks saddle wearing abominations to all that is holy and Belgian! Thank you.

Amen.

Technically of course, only the Calfee is a true cross bike since all the others have bottle cage bolts which everyone knows aren't present on proper CX bikes 😉

Clubber - I have a 58 Airborne alu cross frame that I'll be selling soon - has disc mounts

Great but too small for me 😉

Plus my wheels are non disc...

Well if I get a Kinesis FiveT I'll have to hang my head in shame at races, IT EVEN HAS RACK MOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!OMGWTFLOLLERSKATES.

etc.

Have shimano not approved bottle cage bosses yet then?

I have disc wheels too!

I'm going to get one of those Fixie Purebloods - been lusting after one for aaaagggeeeesss

I like that Focus, but white bar tape on a CX bike?

It's for commuting on so it doesn't matter

(mine also gets used for commuting on 🙂 )

I like that Focus, but white bar tape on a CX bike?

It's Shimano approved.

Get a kinesis, they are lovely. Ive had 2, a pro 3 and pro 5 [the one without the bosses] Nice bikes.

I don't reckon Shimano approve my CX bike's mix of Campag and Shimano 🙂

It's for commuting on so it doesn't matter

What is?

I don't reckon Shimano approve my CX bike's mix of Campag and Shimano

No one with any decency would approve that, you heathen.

EDIT: Just realises that his road bike will be a mix of SRAM and Shimano..

The Focus 😉

clubber - Member

The Focus

Ahh, I see what you are saying.

Just starting to build up a Scott CX frame and I was going to put straightbars on it .I can't see the point of drops for offroad ,am I a wrongun and will I be pointed and laughed at (even more than usual) ? 😯

Just starting to build up a Scott CX frame and I was going to put straightbars on it .I can't see the point of drops for offroad ,am I a wrongun and will I be pointed and laughed at (even more than usual) ?

You will die.

Scott CX frame and I was going to put straightbars on it

Nick Craig did ok on his at the 3 peaks last year.
Ok i need to learn how to quote!

 

Biggest problem with flat bars on a CX frame is it tends to make the position very short/upright as the top tube length is designed for drops.

Just starting to build up a Scott CX frame and I was going to put straightbars on it .I can't see the point of drops for offroad ,am I a wrongun and will I be pointed and laughed at (even more than usual) ?

will you be getting a basket & bell to go with your new hybrid too?

Oi KT Tunstall, you should get a planet X Uncle John like me 🙂

anotherdeadhero - Member

Oi KT Tunstall, you should get a planet X Uncle John like me

Yer it was considered, but I want a new road frame as well so getting the Planet X SL deal almost kills two birds with a whatsitsname.

So what's wrong with a basket and bell then! 🙂

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