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Cotic bfe max 120-130 fork?

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Basically I really want a Solaris max but I’m too cheap to spend the extra £250. Is anyone running a bfe max with 120-130 fork and more xc trail build?

Really fancy grabbing a frame and building it up with spares and a few eBay bits. I think I should be able to get the discounted price through cycle to work as well.

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 10:29 am
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I've got a large cosmic black solarismax gen 2 (the pre-punk) one coming up for sale soon....

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 10:38 am
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I ran my BFeMAX with 120mm Fox 34's and a Maxxis Minion 2.3"/Crossmark 2.25" combination with 1x11 and it absolutely flew along, I'd say it was actually faster and more comfortable than my previous SolarisMAX (2020 generation/model) which had exactly the same components on (sold the Solaris frame, put the bits in a box for a year and then built up the BFeMAX a couple of weeks ago).

I have since bumped up the Fox 34 to 140mm as I had a spare airshaft and fitted some bigger tyres just for the winter slop instead of putting my full-sus back together and it's doing that just as well. I think it's really just as versatile/more versatile than the current SolarisMAX which is probably why the next generation is dropping in travel and frame weight etc. as the BFeMAX is just so good in its travel range!

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 10:57 am
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120mm with 2.3/2.25" Tyres (DHF/Crossmark II)

140mm with 2.6" Tyres (Minion DHF/DHRII)

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 11:12 am
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Buy the frame you want, you'll be happier in the long run IMO.

I run the BFEMax @ 130mm.  No complaints.

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 8:21 pm
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Running my bfemax at 140mm currently. Had it at 130mm for a while and it felt great. I’m fairness I didn’t really notice the change in form travel

 
Posted : 02/01/2023 10:36 pm
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Medium matte red frame, Cane Creek headset, Hope seat clamp and frame bag ordered. Should total £420 after Cycle to work or just over £30pm. I would have gone for the blue but they were out of them in medium.

Parts bin will provide a set of tan DHF 2.6 tyres, Shimano MT500 brakes, Rotors, XT Mech, Shifter, Chain, Kenisis Carbon Bar, pedals & a saddle.

Just need Wheels, Fork, Cassette, Cranks, Stem and a Dropper I think.

Missed the boat with the Superstar deal on wheels but given the amount of discounted stock and PSAs flying around I think something will come along.

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 8:52 am
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I'd been humming and hawing about a new frame for a while, moved to the alps a couple of years ago and my XC fully is rather undergunned for the trails in Austria. Thanks to this thread, I've just ordered a Matt Red BFeMAX, new fork and dropper required but everything else can move over... Very stoked.

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 9:08 am
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I’d been humming and hawing about a new frame for a while, moved to the alps a couple of years ago and my XC fully is rather undergunned for the trails in Austria. Thanks to this thread, I’ve just ordered a Matt Red BFeMAX, new fork and dropper required but everything else can move over… Very stoked.

Sounds great! post some pictures when it's built up!

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 10:38 am
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Damn! Just went to buy one and the price has gone up again 🙁

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 11:33 am
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Cokie, give them a call, ye'll get the sale price still today! Just ordered a magenta one, can't wait!

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 3:23 pm
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Done! Thanks Rank. Just placing my order now. Fast red because I’m not quick enough for pink.

 
Posted : 03/01/2023 6:49 pm
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BfeMax

Just finished my build; 140mm Fox 36, 1x12 NX, SLX brakes with 203f/180r and some big rubber, 2.6F & 2.3R.
Had a little ride yesterday- it's a pretty interesting balance and suitably impressed at the moment.
I've got BPW booked in on this for the end of the month. Would usually take the FS, but this could make it fun & different.

I've got a set of 130mm Rebas and XC tyres. Just need an XC wheelset and then I have a lighter weight build for summer.

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 10:48 am
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Wow! glad I chose red now! How'd you get the frame so fast?

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 11:32 am
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Looks good in that red. Definitely the second better colour after Blue 🙂

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 11:57 am
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The matte red is the best colour. 🤓 [ not built mine yet ]

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 12:03 pm
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Respectfully disagree @kelvin 🙂

https://flic.kr/p/2o783ue

I'm not fast enough for red anyway!

Had some chainsuck issues on mine but probably a combination of  a) old transmission and b) it's been insanely muddy and c) stiff link in chain.

My mate made me a custom chainsuck plate tho. Awesome job,

https://flic.kr/p/2obuy7n

Double taped the other bits after dabbing it with rust-stop. Think I'll run a 30T oval when I change transmission in Spring as it runs pretty close to chainstay with a 32Oval.

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 12:09 pm
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What's the chainline Alex?

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 12:16 pm
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Boost. 52mm offset on XT Cranks. Think I have std spacers on BB. With a big ruler from chainring to cassette it's about 5th/6th so I reckon it's okay. 51T cassette tho so it's not great at the top. Had chainsuck in 3/4. Anyway don't want to derail thread, not worried about it, happened at night so I didn't catch it. Going back to a standard SLX ring as chain was definitely hanging onto that burgtec ring (it doesn't look that worn but...)

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 12:26 pm
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I bought it on the 3rd of Jan and it arrived on Friday the 6th with a fitted headset. Insane turn around really. I think they tried to fulfil orders before their site move.

Supper happy with the matte red.. I wanted pink but wasn't sure I'm cool enough.
This is much more subtle.

It feels so much more lively than the Stooge Dirtbomb I've been riding for months.

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 12:36 pm
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I bought it on the 3rd of Jan and it arrived on Friday the 6th with a fitted headset. Insane turn around really. I think they tried to fulfil orders before their site move.

That's good! Cycle to Work must have slowed mine down. Hopefully that means it wont be 3 weeks till I get it then.

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 1:17 pm
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Frame orders begin being prepped again this afternoon. It was workshop building yesterday and this morning. First dispatch from the new warehouse might not be 'till next week now though, a pickup is being chased for this week, but it's all a bit vague with the courier at the moment as key people are on holiday their end.

 
Posted : 17/01/2023 1:41 pm
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Few more photos from todays ride. This bikes fast! Amazed how fast it climbs and descends given draggy tyres and muddy condition.

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Posted : 19/01/2023 10:08 pm
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Nice 👍

 
Posted : 19/01/2023 10:32 pm
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Hi, just came on to say I was in the same position as you! Started off looking at the Solaris Max and ended up going with the BFe Max when the frames were on offer last month. Have just built it up. Had originally planned to fit a Z2 I already had but took the opportunity to buy an as-new Z1 off a friend. So now it's kinda far away from my original idea of an XC/light-trail hardtail!!
Cotic bfe max

 
Posted : 22/01/2023 8:12 pm
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Hey @ff2, your pic isn't showing?

Waiting for my frame to arrive today. I think I've fallen into a slightly similar trap based on what parts were on good deals when I ordered. Going to get it built up tonight - pics to follow.

 
Posted : 23/01/2023 9:57 am
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Frame arrived......big chip on pain near BB that's been badly touched up and a bit under the bridge. Wounded.

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Posted : 23/01/2023 2:20 pm
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Wow, that's not good about the paint! Looks like they've been busy moving premises, so maybe they mixed up a slightly used frame with new (they sell used on their outlet page). Hopefully they can sort you out quickly.

Here's that photo of my build (final tweaks still needed). Photo doesn't do justice how chunky the stanchions look against the frame!
https://flic.kr/p/2ocR618

 
Posted : 23/01/2023 10:55 pm
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Oh, sorry to see the damage @ogden. Contact Cotic and they'll sort you out! It looks like it's been touched up so I imagine it's a seconds frame that somehow got posted out to you.

Had another very muddy ride today and still mega impressed. Given how sticky it is, it's been remarkably fast.
Got some mud clearance issues, but I think this is down to the how sticky the mud is and how big the tyres are. Stand over clearance is ludicrous. Almost looks like a trials/DJ frame when I look down. LLS geometry means it's not as easy to manual but it's not too bad to play around on.

 
Posted : 24/01/2023 9:47 pm
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Oh, sorry to see the damage @ogden. Contact Cotic and they’ll sort you out! It looks like it’s been touched up so I imagine it’s a seconds frame that somehow got posted out to you.

Not really sure how or why it made it out the door tbh, someone clearly knew and they fit a clamp and headset so they wont have missed it. They said they were out of medium red frames but would swap it for pink or grey.... Wasn't keen on either so they said they'd send me £60's worth of merch if I wanted. Given I'd got the frame on discount and cycle to work I didn't wanna kick up a fuss; not like you can really see it when it is built up anyway. Also had them throw me in a paint touch up pot as well.

V1 OneUp dropper doesn't play nice with externally routed frames so I've ordered one of those £57 TranzX ones on offer. Decided I should probs use some frame protection given the paint issue so I'll have to wait for that before the first ride.

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Posted : 25/01/2023 10:36 am
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Your bike looks great! Love the build & tan walls set it off nicely.

Oh.. not quite what I was expecting! Clearly no PDI at all then. Not sure £60 of merch is fair either. That's a shame.
It'll pick up plenty of marks by the end of the winter season anyway I guess. Always found Cotic paint a bit soft (I've had 3 previously).

 
Posted : 25/01/2023 11:06 am
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Your bike looks great! Love the build & tan walls set it off nicely.

Oh.. not quite what I was expecting! Clearly no PDI at all then. Not sure £60 of merch is fair either. That’s a shame.
It’ll pick up plenty of marks by the end of the winter season anyway I guess. Always found Cotic paint a bit soft (I’ve had 3 previously).

Cheers, I'm dead happy with the way it turned out.

If they'd not let me do Cycle to Work on the discounted frame I'd probably have made a bigger fuss but given most shops wont do that I'll cope with a free jumper, t-shirt and some touch-up paint.

 
Posted : 25/01/2023 11:17 am
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Bfe

Had a great day at BPW. Bike was sublime. Some of the reds were on the cusp comfort wise, but the bike was super fast and stable. No regrets taking this over the FS.

How are you getting on @ogden?

 
Posted : 29/01/2023 8:13 pm
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How are you getting on @ogden?

@cookie glad you’re enjoying yours!

Just on with some DIY invisiframe, given the paint problems thought it would be worth the hassle.

Had to order a dropper because the v1 one up dropper didn’t like external routing and that’s only just turned up anyway.

Think I’ll get out on it this weekend coming. Can’t wait!

 
Posted : 30/01/2023 12:04 pm
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@cokie what size tyres are you running? I've got 2.6" Minions on mine and seems fairly good for clearance, but my rims aren't overly wide.

Haven't ridden it in gloopy mud yet, only torrential rain or frozen solid so far!

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 1:16 pm
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Front is a Magic Marry 2.6" and rear is a Minion DHR II 2.35".
Zero issues at BPW with clearance. Tyres stayed clear all day. Couldn't be happier with the combo.
Just my local trails that are really sticky. It's the chalky Ridegeway so doesn't drain.
Not sure any tyre & frame would clear it.

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 1:54 pm
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Fair enough! I've got a 2.6~ DHF/DHRII combo but like you say, in some circumstances it wouldn't matter if you ran 2" tyres you'd still fill the gap with mud!

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 3:54 pm
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I have a 2.6 on ibis 35mm internal (i think) rims. Still decent clearance even when it was uber muddy (and I had some chainsuck issues which *seem* to have gone away after I junked the burgtec oval). Mate has a 27.5x2.8 in his and again still adequate room for some winter filth!

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 3:55 pm
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Oh, that's a point!
I've got a set of 27.5+ wheels in the shed- 40mm rims with 3.0" tyres.
Will try these when it starts to dry out. I forgot they'll clear the frame & fork.
Current rims are 31mm ID.

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 3:59 pm
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I'm putting 27.5x2.8 in the back of mine, I'll report back. Front will be 29er though.

 
Posted : 01/02/2023 4:03 pm
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Righto, seeing as nobody is posting Grey BFe's, here's my recent build. It's a small, bought in the Xmas offer and is built up with the bits from my Big Dog bought last Autumn, I just couldn't get on with. I previously had a Solaris Mk1 that I loved so I'm hoping this will be a keeper.

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Posted : 02/02/2023 6:45 pm
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Oh, that's a lovely colour and build! The grey is a lot lighter than I thought it would be.

Looks like a more XC/trail build with the RRs. What travel are you running?

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 10:31 am
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That looks very nice! One of those colours that looks far better in non-studio shots I think, I've not seen one "in the wild" before.

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 2:04 pm
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All wrapped in invisiframe now. Going to take it up to Hamsterley on Saturday for its shakedown ride.

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 3:07 pm
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Looks like a more XC/trail build with the RRs. What travel are you running?

It's a Pike Ultimate at 130mm and Trail wides with 2.4 Hans Dampfs, so definitely erring towards a trail build in weight and attitude. I may try a longer air shaft, I'll see how I get on.

I really wasn't sure about the grey as the website doesn't do it justice, but I really like how it looks and I'm a massive tart so that's important. What swung me was the silver Pike's I already had suited it better than the pink or blue.

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 3:15 pm
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That is bloody lovely. You have actually pulled off the tanwalls and the gold chain, which is a rare achievement. 10/10

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 4:06 pm
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Trail wides with 2.4 Hans Dampfs

Oh, that wheelset with those tyres looks tiny for some reason! Proves how much clearance these bikes have.
Agreed, tan walls and gold bits looks lovely.

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 4:38 pm
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Had a couple of rides on my medium frame since I built it up this week - 150mm Pikes, old LB 30mm carbon rims/Pro4s and Bonty XR4s.

It's bloody awesome! Surprised at how well it climbs, as others have mentioned. Not in a mountain goat whippety way, but in a surefooted, get up anything sort of way. Picks up speed VERY quickly on the way down and found that I want the bars a lot higher than I thought in order to stay in the centre of that huge wheelbase.

Perfect for my local hill.

 
Posted : 03/02/2023 5:18 pm
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Exactly my experience.. just back from a short lunchtime spin, 5 PRs and 6 other achievements on climbs & descents. I've ridden the trails hundreds of times on all sorts of bikes, so to get some PRs in these conditions is pretty impressive.
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Posted : 03/02/2023 6:02 pm
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I like that grey, and a nice build to go with it.

I have 25mm rise on my bars and a 10mm spacer underneath them (on a 140mm fork). Pretty much the same as I've had on previous HTs, but the do feel a bit low when sitting (not so much stood up). Mate has an XL with some 38mm rise bars and he reckons he makes a big difference. I don't like how they look tho, so I'm hanging on for a bit!

Done around 200km on mine now. Both my mate and I think they are the 'best' all round HTs we've had and we've had a few (including SolarisMax). It's a proper hoot now the trails have dried out a bit.

 
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https://flic.kr/p/2ofcGHB

First ride out today.

 
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