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Am bored of the standard MvdP solo CX time trial that most races end up as.

I hear watching football is popular.


 
Posted : 30/12/2019 10:54 pm
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Imagine if I drove at 15mph in front of you for miles,would that be OK with you?

Miles you say? Well I have often driven behind cyclists waiting for a safe place to pass but never "for miles".


 
Posted : 30/12/2019 10:54 pm
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Cycling two abreast should be encouraged since it makes overtaking a shorter obstacle much easier.

Cycling two abreast should be outlawed because it obstructs... actually forget that, cycling on roads should be outlawed.

If a cycle path is available, its use should be mandated.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:01 am
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Bicycles should pay road tax and have license plates innit.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:06 am
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Cycling in long chains should be illegal as it does make it very hard to pass. And yes you could be following a group of 10 cyclists riding 2 a breast and not be able to over take them for miles where I live. Doesn't happen often, in fact far less than me getting stuck behind a horse box that is not travelling much faster than the cyclists and I was stuck behind a horse box for 5 miles just yesterday.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:33 am
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[url= https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/year-to-date-2/ ]Other people's riding stats[/url] are one of the least interesting things in the whole world (wide web).


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:44 am
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All bikes on public roads to have a 1.5m long overtaking lollipop attached.

I wouldn't mind it as it would give a clear indication for all drivers, but I dont think it would be popular with cyclists that want that room on their right only when it suits them.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 10:00 am
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The cyclist haters on this forum should **** off and join pistonheads, where they can chat with like-minded morons.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 11:29 am
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You're nearly right: All cars should have an overtaking 1.5m lollipop on the left.

Kerley

You're nearly right: Cars should not be allowed to drive in long chains, as it makes it hard for cyclists to get past them when they are inevitably jammed.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 12:10 pm
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You’re nearly right: Cars should not be allowed to drive in long chains, as it makes it hard for cyclists to get past them when they are inevitably jammed.

That's the riders fault for fitting stupid broomstick bars then isn't it?

The cyclist haters on this forum should **** off and join pistonheads, where they can chat with like-minded morons.

Or maybe the cyclists could piss off and join a cycling forum 😉


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 12:22 pm
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stupid ≠ controversial


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 12:24 pm
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I’m referring to the amount of folk on here that seem to think they know better than the manufacturers and buy a large sized bike despite being average height and at the medium point on the recommendation scale.

OK so, at which point did the manufacturers get it exactly right? Because today's mediums are often longer and reachier than XLs of just a few years ago, and sizing differs massively even in the same model years across manufacturers. My size large Remedy was almost exactly the same size as my size medium trailfox.

(ChrisL of this parish used to use the length of his XL Mojo as an excuse for not being able to do tight stuff, but it turned out after literal years of this that my medium Hemlock was actually longer. Best day ever)

A medium enduro today is almost exactly 4 inches longer than the medium enduro in 2010. The longest 2010 enduro is shorter than the smallest 2020.

Truth is, anyone who 2-5 years ago thought "I'd better go up a size" has every right to think they knew better than manufacturers- and the manufacturers apparently agree since they've made the same changes. There's never been a time in the last decade where that wasn't true, either (weird attempts to make short 29ers aside, but that was always just marketing)


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 4:37 pm
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You’re nearly right: All cars should have an overtaking 1.5m lollipop on the left.

That would put the lollipop on the kerb side of traffic, which is not suitable on narrow roads. Far better to have the lollipop away from the pavement side and pedestrian footpaths. That puts it back on bicycles I am afraid.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 5:31 pm
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OK so, at which point did the manufacturers get it exactly right?

**** knows. Trailstar Mk2?

I'm probably just making my own way round the curve on this one and haven't bought into the emperors new clothes whole long low slack thing. It just seems ****ing insane that a bike designed for all day Bikepacking and shiz is being specced with a 90mm longer top tube than my hybrid which is designed for comfort. I sacked off my oversized road bike over less.

And it's becoming less controversial the more it gets discussed so quit it! 😉


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:11 pm
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Cycle on the side of the cycle path relative to the side of the road that is driven on. Drive on the left hand side of the road? Ergo, cycle on the left-hand side of the cycle path.

Wearing all black cycling kit does not make it easier to spot a cyclist on the road, in the low sunlight, with no bike lights.

eMtbs are a worthy inclusion for specific areas of training.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 12:34 am
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Strava is a huge pile of self important, childish toss.
Get your hedge cut.

If you insist on wearing an all black outfit, don't complain when no one can see you.

Factory built wheels are awful.

Suspension is simple.

'Premium' branded bikes are usually ridden by snobs.

Watches are simply male jewellery.

No one who has more than two kids, a dog or runs a wood burner whilst living in a city really gives a shit about the environment.

Traditional leather saddles are an affectation.

Ortleib panniers aren't as good as people make out.

If you don't ride in the winter, or the rain, or the mud, you're a wimp.

If you have a winter road bike, your summer bike costs too much.

Happy new year everyone!


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 3:43 am
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Agree with pretty every one of those apart from the 2 kids. Having any kids means you don't give a shit about the environment as it is not like we need to increase the population or keep a civilisation going


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 8:48 am
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Having any kids means you don’t give a shit about the environment as it is not like we need to increase the population or keep a civilisation going

Yeah plant based diet versus having kids. 0.82 tonnes CO2 saving v 58 tonnes a year.

Vegan parents.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:23 am
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How is the number of children you have in any way a controversial cycling opinion?

130mm of fork travel is the maximum needed for UK riding


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 10:56 am
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How is the number of children you have in any way a controversial cycling opinion?

Because when they are 8 they will want an e-bike. Lazy little bastards.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 11:25 am
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Get your hedge cut.

No-one cares about your creative hub.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 11:32 am
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Bicycle component installation diagrams should be ambivalent to help keep bicycle shops in business.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 12:13 pm
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Wearing all black cycling kit does not make it easier to spot a cyclist on the road, in the low sunlight, with no bike lights.

A lot of MAMILs are hoping black is slimming.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 12:23 pm
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Strava is a huge pile of self important, childish toss

I thought these were supposed to be controversial?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 1:16 pm
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Not controversial, but a reply to all of those who don’t understand bike geometry.

Try comparing the stem length and bar width of your new bike to one of 10 years ago.

LLS is shit for anyone who likes riding up, along, down.


 
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Posted : 01/01/2020 3:46 pm
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LLS is shit for anyone who likes riding up, along, down.

Not trying to be rude, but have you actually ridden one? My FlareMax is faster in all those directions than all of the other bikes I've owned over the years. My first 'proper' HT (2000 era Kona) had some crazy steep head angle and 560mm bars. It was rubbish at all of those things in comparison. The one thing it was good at was launching me over the bars, at which it excelled.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 4:49 pm
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Agree with pretty every one of those apart from the 2 kids. Having any kids means you don’t give a shit about the environment as it is not like we need to increase the population or keep a civilisation going

All those moaning about over-population are deflecting attention away from their consumerist lifestyles.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:01 pm
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Strava is a huge pile of self important, childish toss.

Strava is a very useful tool.

However, people are now too stupid to ride without mulitple electronic thingies telling them where they are, where they need to be, how fast they're going to get there and a host of other wildly unimportant* crap. Most people spend longer looking at their various devices than they do actually enjoying the ride.

* I can see how it might be important if you're a World Tour rider and your coach needs some stats but for the average MAMIL going to and from a cafe, it's slight overkill.


 
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Edit: new forum page numbering is superb


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:32 pm
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Strava is a huge pile of self important, childish toss.

It might be my perception but Strava has changed hugely in the way it is used and what it is for.

I used to think of it primarily as a place for dickish KOM point scoring.

Now I think of it as a place to record your riding (and other exercise and adventure activities); a simplified exercise analysis tool like training peaks but dumbed down for non elites; a place to pick up motivational challenges (like the annual festive 500); and a social media style way to keep up with your friends 'sporting' lives to give and take some motivation and share adventures. The KOM element is now tiny and only really a thing if you actively search it out; especially the performance against other people element.

My controversion cycling opinion - those that think of Strava as childish toss are probably stuck in about 2012.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:56 pm
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LLS?

Not trying to be rude, but have you actually ridden one?

Yes, numerous. Pretty much without exception the bars are too low, around knee height when stood up. The seat tube angle is a compromise for riding along, it's too steep for comfortable pedaling, your feet feel like they are behind your hips and you're perched on the nose of your saddle. They work for people who are solely out for descending as fast as possible.

I'm not at all interested in going as fast as possible over every part of a ride. Most of the time I'm out it's to be outside, bimbling along, enjoying being outside bimbling along. #controversial


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 6:35 pm
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All those moaning about over-population are deflecting attention away from their consumerist lifestyles.

Well I'm not, so not quite "all". And even if someone has a consumerist lifestyle having another 2 people brought into the world to join them is sure not going to help is it...


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 7:16 pm
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Strava is a very useful tool.

However, people are now too stupid to ride without mulitple electronic thingies telling them where they are, where they need to be, how fast they’re going to get there and a host of other wildly unimportant* crap. Most people spend longer looking at their various devices than they do actually enjoying the ride.

Yep, I find it very useful. My phone stays in my back pocket with Strava running and I only look at it after I have uploaded when I get home. Keeps a track of my rides and gives me an idea of where I could try harder or even set a goal for a PB. What is wrong with that?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 7:18 pm
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This isn't the "controversial re-cycling opinions" thread.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 7:48 pm
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Map my ride is better than strava if you just want to let it run then look at the ride afterwards.

Dedicated handle bar mounted GPS is pointless, you're in the UK! Not the Yukon.
A few mins planning and you'll have a very good idea of your route.

#controvercial


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 7:51 pm
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Gorilla tape has no place on bike rims!


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 11:22 pm
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And even if someone has a consumerist lifestyle having another 2 people brought into the world to join them is sure not going to help is it…

If you're that worried then I'd head to Switzerland. It's easy to get to by train.


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 12:01 am
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Well I’m not, so not quite “all”. And even if someone has a consumerist lifestyle having another 2 people brought into the world to join them is sure not going to help is it…

Just start a separate ‘I hate kids’ thread and keep this one on track


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 7:54 am
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If you’re that worried then I’d head to Switzerland

What a pleasant comment


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 9:02 am
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Just start a separate ‘I hate kids’ thread and keep this one on track

FYI - Stating that an increasing population is not great environmentally does not equal "I hate kids"
But yes, no more mention of it on this thread


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 9:04 am
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There is absolutely zero reason for not wearing a helmet when riding. Just like seat belts it should be mandatory to be honest.


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 9:25 am
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What a pleasant comment

You're welcome.

Anyway, back to cycling: people who think that helmets should be compulsory are too stupid to ride a bicycle.


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 12:48 pm
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LLS?

Not trying to be rude, but have you actually ridden one?

Yes, numerous. Pretty much without exception the bars are too low, around knee height when stood up.

You do understand that the low part is refering to the BB height not the height of the bars .


 
Posted : 02/01/2020 1:53 pm
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You do understand that the low part is refering to the BB height not the height of the bars .

Which conversely can actually make the saddle to bar drop shorter as saddle height is determined from the BB whilst the bar is not. 🙂


 
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