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High horses and STW Forum 🙄
So, do you folks alert sellers that their asking prices are too low? (or just snaffle up any bargains?)
There's a lass at work got really upset the other day when a 'less than Brad Pitt' type started chatting her up.
How dare he.
He who dares.....
I've got half a Torq gel @ £2.49 (+ £3.99 P&P) - 50% lighter than the new ones. ONO.
I sold some cranks here 2 yrs ago and saw the same cranks by the buyer on here for twice the price lol.
I've seen stuff I've sold - re-advertised, with dodgy descriptions, at a profit - including a cracked road frame, that the buyer negotiated from me as a freebie. It reflects general life though doesn't it?
It's clearly not that hard to spot the wide boys.
zaskar thats a big problem too, so many w@nkers buying low just to sell high.
Can of worms opened!
so many w@nkers buying low just to sell high
I'm with you on this, but isn't it just like the retail trade?
The seller gets the price they agree and the buyer (albeit sometimes unwittingly) is happy.
I feel the same as Ton when I see 'designer' stuff in shop windows.
It's a fine line, that one. There have been incidents in the past where people have fairly clearly (imho) bought because it was a good price with intent to then resell at a later date; combine that with sales volume as well and it becomes (again imho) trading in bike parts rather than the bring and buy style that I think it should have.
Or at least, if people are just buying low to resell later and doing that over and over at least admit it and pay STW something for the free service.
Agreed, but let's keep it civil - this name and shame business is vigilante.
I once gave someone some old wheels (M525/mavic 223), who had asked on the classifieds for parts to build a budget bike. I felt I was acting in the spirit of the forum.
A few weeks later they showed up on the Ebay. I was unimpressed.
Paying too much?
This guy does really good prices!
[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-know-iwh-aka-lee-anderson ]dodgy pri*k[/url]
On those Pikes.. I dont beleive sellers when they say 'Pushd 12months ago and not used for the last 7months'. They look well used to me. I think its borderline 'pricey'. If I was looking for Pikes (in that condition- **** the TF bit) I'd only offer 180 max. I sold a pair of air Pikes with a small blemish for 160.
Isn't the whole idea of getting forks 'Pushed' to modify the damping to suit a particular rider?
If so - they must be worth less than a standard pair as they'll need to go back to be set-up again to suit
How old are those forks? I paid £275 for a pair of 454's from lbs 2yrs ago.
How much are new stanchions though? Not sure on that scratch!
Anywaaay.
Should be a rule- classifieds is locked to new users making a post until they have made contributions to the other forums?
Should be a rule- classifieds is locked to new users making a post until they have made contributions to the other forums?
Or maybe people who never post anywhere else other than dealing on the classifieds?
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php?search=mike&advanced=1&exact=1&posts=1&highlight=1&users=778&located=0&forums []=0&maxcount=100&age=999999&direction=0&sort=date&order=0
Jeesus!
Oh well time to risk a flaming.......
Surely this is a free market economy on here. If someone wants to ask a ridiculous price for secondhand kit then why worry about it. It won't sell and does no harm to anyone. If you think it's more than you want to pay then don't buy it....fairly simple really.
I think there should be a limit to how many times you can post the same ad because there are certainly a number that I've seen over and over again with no modification. If it didn't sell the first couple of times at the excessively high price then it probably isn't going to sell no matter how times you post it.
Taka's overpriced Inbred and a Planet X hammerhead spring to mind on the above.
one guy now has seven (7) ads on the front page
I agree with Ken Shields- it's a free market economy. If I'm selling stuff whey shouldn't I try and get the most for it? Stuff [b]sells[/b] on here for a huge variation in prices- sometimes bargains, sometimes less so- if it's too much, fine- I think 'that's too much' comments should be restricted to occasions when the stuff is available new for less money.
If I want a part urgently then I'm normally prepared to pay more for it than if it's something I can wait for a couple of weeks for. If I'm in a good mood I might accept a cheeky offer for something, if not I'll hold out for more.
The way some of you are speaking there's a magic formula for determining what the sale price of something should be which is bullshit. If I try to sell a sh carbon full susser blingbike I'm sure that I'd lose a higher percentage of the new price than if I try to sell a rat 456 frame- and despite retail for those being £125 I've never seen one go for less than £80.
At the end of the day, it's worth what somebody wants to pay for it, and if the seller doesn't have much spare money he should be entitled to get the max he can for it, unlike, say, Ton, who says he has a large amount of disposable income to spend on on bikes.
one guy now has seven (7) ads on the front page
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forums/classified-rules/
No more than two ads from the same user on the front page at any one time or they will ALL be deleted.
Waits for a mod to do the business...
If someone has multiple ads- report them.
They're getting more exposure and know the rules. The poster should.
Same with the poster who is selling shedloads only- hes definitely a trade seller.
Edit- it looks like someone has!
Well weirdly enough since the "new" forum I don't even bother looking to the classified anymore (mostly because I am off the kingdom).
But prices have gone well up and what scares me more is the number of post from people that are not part of the "stw" community. I am not speaking of the very regulars, but people that only post on the classified. That I find it very dodgy.
So I'd rather miss a bargain than buy a stolen good.
What are your views on the Head French Ladee Ewen?
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Excellent point Juan. I have noticed this as well. I only buy from people who seem to be genuine members. Anyone who seems to be on the forum just for the classifieds I point out to the mods.
Ahhh... a local forum for local people. Just listen to yourselves!
When I advertized a set of RC31'S at half original price no one said OI Tinsy, theyre a bit cheap, just had 4 buyers queing within 10 mins...
Anything remotely cheap on there goes in seconds, and there is def a few people profiteering from it. (the forks went to good home I think though)
That said I also delt with a few exceptionally nice fella's when gathering bits for my wifes bike....
Only shame was it was knicked within a month, also make me worry about posting pics of nice bikes and dealing with addresses and stuff on here. (didnt worry me enough to stop hosting a pic of my new bike though, however I have taken Ton up on the offer of £5 an hour and pork pie gaurd duty offer). 🙂
one guy now has seven (7) ads on the front page
That would have been me then - Reason for so many ads was that I've split my bike and as I was giving pictures for every item, though it would be a good idea to 'group' things together.
Clearly I had not read the rules otherwise I would have known that the ads would get pulled and I'd wasted a lot of time linking all the pictures.
I sincerely apologise to all those who have taken offence to my actions - I can only hope this will deter you from coming after me with pitchforks ready to burn me.
Hora - you're the biggest timewaster going you bell. You're the king of over-pricing stuff
I've sold stuff so cheap it upsets me to think about it (my Morning Glory for one...) but thats the way things go. Fact is, if its over priced it won't sell. Seller either drops the price or keeps the kit.
i'll be the bell if you be the end. Ive sold forks recently for Pikes for 160 on here. everything I put on here sells. So it cant be that overpriced.....and I buy a helluvalot of stuff previously on STW (as I have a rep for getting new kit).
Whatever, I'd like to nominate Flange for having the best STW name.
I bought a set of forks of Hora, got loads of pics, an honest appraisal of their condition and they were here in no time and for what I felt was a good price so I think Flange's comments are a bit unwarranted.
Why is it such a big issue for people what stuff does or doesn't sell for.
Im NO expert but is this right pricewise?
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stumpy-for-sale-1
If you're not interested in buying then just STFU? It really is that easy! If you are interested in something and you think it's overpriced, kindly justify and offer what you're prepared to pay. You're less likely to piss someone off (maybe that was your plan to begin with) and cause a silly Internet arguement where you both end up looking like idiots. There's always a shop with a clearance offer on something that you might not be aware of. At the same time, sellers trying to sell something for £3 less than what it can be had from a retailer with a proper warranty, don't expect to have to much luck or get arsey when someone makes you a lower offer.
It's quite annoying to see some moron trashing someone elses thread when a) they're obviously not interested in an item and just being a nosey/contentious * or b) they want something for nothing.
Do the same people who make these sort of posts phone up crc/wiggle etc and tell them that their bike bits are a *ing rip off? Probably not, they'd just facelessly moan about it on the interweb forums
Personally I love the classifieds, saved about £500 over buying new on a fork/crank/front mech in the last couple of days, because those bloody retailers are such a damn rip-off 😀
It's quite annoying to see some moron trashing someone elses thread when a) they're obviously not interested in an item and just being a nosey/contentious ****
Totally agree. If your interested and one of the top hits on google is cheaper- then its fair to say 'Im interested but its x at so and so would you be open to an offer to reflect this'?
However if you say 'want £300 ONO' a response like '£100 mate?' is purely trolling rather than being reasonable.
hora, and if you start a post saying 'I'm no expert but is this right pricewise' and you've no intention of buying else you would ave said 'I'm interested, but...', then what's your interest- stirring up trouble?
I'm doubtful it's protecting the interests of those poor naive buyers out there with £800 burning a hole in their pocket...
If you're not interested in buying then just STFU?
I probably wouldn't chirp up if I saw something overpriced but if you don't want comments - stick it on ebay
STW is a discussion forum & as such is open to people discussing things
If you advertise something for £150ono and I think it's only worth £100 then I will offer £100.
No need to get annoyed about it, just say "No thanks".
vinnyeh but Im not posting on the sellers thread. Thats a no-no. If you've no interest in buying you shouldnt post on their thread. Discussion stays here on this (relevant) thread.
I think it's a bit of a shame that the rules don't allow ads asking for offers - why is that bad ?
Scaredypants it just clogs up the classifieds with people who aren't really serious about selling.
fair enough. Still doesn't sound quite right to me though.
Scaredypants it just clogs up the classifieds with people who aren't really serious about selling
Now they just post in the bike forum with thinly disguised ads.
[i]".. how much do you think <insert description & photo of bike with full build details> would be worth ....?"[/i]
STW is a discussion forum & as such is open to people discussing things
So if 20 people decide they want a discussion about how much an item should be sold for in that person's sale thread because they don't agree with a price, you think that's reasonable use of the classifieds? *face palm*
surely they now achieve the same by advertising some shite at an inflated price and waiting for the offers
trusz has a point.
So if 20 people decide they want a discussion about how much an item should be sold for in that person's sale thread because they don't agree with a price, you think that's reasonable use of the classifieds? *face palm*
That's not likely to happen though, if it gets out of hand it'll be moderated
I'm simply saying that if you post something in a forum that allows replies & discussions don't be surprised if you get them
TBH - there's so many posts over there without any replies - it could do with a bit of comment, if only to keep the cobwebs away
