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Changing dropouts on a steel frame?

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I'm toying with the idea of getting my beloved Cotic Roadrat restored as it's got early hints of rust and a tiny dent. But I think I would only do this if I could also do some mods.

1) remove the redundant cable guide. Seems straightforward

2) change the dropouts to a 142 mm through axle.

The current horizontal dropouts with hanger and disc mounts don't really do it for me. A week of riding it single speed has reminded me why I sold my single speed road bike.

Years ago my dad had an old Reynolds frame widened from 120 - 135 mm. That worked fine (except the frame builder forgot to add a gear hanger or any cable guides!). But I dont know whether the same would work with the additional complexity of having to align disc mounts.

Any advice gratefully received.


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 2:26 pm
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First port of call would be to drop Cotic a line to see what they say - @Cy and @kelvin would be the experts, may even recommend a framebuilder (or tell you why it's not a good idea!)


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 2:28 pm
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https://bearframesupplies.co.uk/dropouts/

and find a willing frame builder?


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 2:32 pm
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Don't see why not - not going to be cheap tho, and not the lightest/best of frames?


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 3:13 pm
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I've swapped dropouts on a frame and modified ones to take through axle. It's easy enough but costs more than you'd want to pay so hardly any frame builder will offer it.


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 4:16 pm
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The Roadrat has a very specific plate dropout that attaches to the seatstay quite a long way from the axle centre, and a chainstay attachment that caps the end of the tube at an angle. You'll be very lucky if those Bear dropouts join in the right places.

If I was doing my own then I'd probably machine something to braze into the existing dropouts and just cut / reshape what is already there rather than try to remove from the tubes.

But in all honesty I just wouldn't bother - 142mm bolt through is gaining you nothing over qr and the existing dropouts other than slightly faster wheel changes.


 
Posted : 10/03/2024 4:54 pm