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Mine's holding its air fine, after three months.
I have seen pics of this shock mounted upsidedown on Cube Stereo 160 HPC. However CC dont list it as a fit, but do now list a base tune. Im aware that people have gently filed the aircan to aid clearance, and yet others have used offset bushes at 90 degrees to generate a few mm clearance. Has anyone on here done it? Or got a ride buddy who has?
Id love to fit one, but im scared of the £400 experiment...
I would be concerned about the offset shock bushings staying in place, as they will naturally want to rotate into their intended position.
The accounts i have read either say it will fit, or they are using some grip/friction paste and a little more torque. The accounts say they havnt rotated....
Running an offset bush on my 2011 5Spot, had no issues with it rotating after two weeks riding in the Alps.
The accounts i have read either say it will fit, or they are using some grip/friction paste and a little more torque. The accounts say they havnt rotated....
mine started playing up after a couple of rides and got progressively worse. High speed rebound way too fast, and shock sounding like a budgie chirping down the trail.
Bike is now back in the shop, 2.5 weeks and counting with no sign or clue as to how long this is going to take.
Still at least i got to ride it a few times, had it 3 weeks before taking it back.
On another note i ordered some handlebars at the same time, that was 5.5 weeks ago....no sign of them turning up either!
Had one on my orange Gyro for 2 months now and around 1000 miles. Amazing shock but unfortunately its started to squeak like mad on a fast compression and rebound. Not too impressed after 2 months use.
I know someone who has gone through 1 per ride on their new bike (3 so far)... all replaced under warranty but still not very impressive.
there does seem to be issues, i was told mine was a 'common problem'. Not sure how they have fared after being repaired, I'm a little concerned about repetitive problems, especially as it looks like its going to be at least 3 to 4 weeks turnaround time.
My first one lasted 2 rides before it dumped all its oil out of itself.
The second maybe 4/5, before it started knocking about 40% into its travel.
I never round to a third. The Vivid Air that replaced it though, is amazing 🙂
Mine has a noticeable step in the first portion of travel. CC claim its the negative spring equalising, it never did it in the past.......
Well mine is working just fine, the first one was a dud but replaced pronto by Tf Tuned. The 2nd has taken a right battering and is still faultless. Amazing shock 🙂
Mine died, a negative seal flipped meaning that air escaped into the negative champer and wouldnt pump up.
Specialized replaced it immeadiatley with a Monarch as they can't fix them and its obviously a known issue.
Shame as the shock worked really nice. But with 90 parts or whatever it was never lasting.
joefm - MemberSpecialized replaced it immeadiatley with a Monarch as they can't fix them and its obviously a known issue.
Not sure I'd be all that happy at having me expensive shock replaced with a much cheaper one. Did they refund you?
I'm probably going to take the plunge and get an Ohlins TTX to replace the DB inline on my enduro. The DB inline felt like it had potential but I'm concerned over reliability and i felt like i was always trying to make it work for me rather than it simply feeling great. This was clearly down to whatever the problem was/is with mine but i want something i can rely on.
For those that have felt a "step" in the first part of the shock, have you tried it with the chain off? I mentioned this before by my spitty has a good amount of chain growth which plays havoc with clutch mechs and gives a distinct feeling of resistance..
mine has the step also. cane creek said it was normal and caused by the negative air spring. Thing is it didn't do it at first, not until after the shock had been removed and some more volume spacers added.
Thing is it didn't do it at first, not until after the shock had been removed and some more volume spacers added
mine too, I think it has to do with the position of the reducers inside the air can
I did a review of my Inline and Cane Creek later got in touch with a comment on the reliability issues, just thought I'd share as I expect some fellow owners may be interested...
http://unduro.co.uk/mtb/review-cane-creek-db-inline/
Scroll to the bottom for the CC quote if you don't wanna read all my guff.
Sent mine to TF as it started knocking badly, even with the clutch mech off and there's no spacers in the air can.
Update. It's on its way back with an uprated bladder as the old one failed.
Fair one that they could actually be bothered to respond to your blog. A lot of companies would not gove a s**t.
My first Inline died within a week when oil started leaking out the rebound adjuster. TF Tuned worked some magic and sent me another ASAP as i was racing a few days later. The second one has been absolutely faultless. It has taken some serious abuse and is still going strong.
Have they updated the internals on these shocks since they were first released then?
After 1 replacement and 1 rebuilt by tf I gave up and sold it.
I guess we were just beta testing for CC, shame really as I wanted to like the shock.
Now have a FS with BOS f&r so much better.
Spitfire? Heard of a case of misaligned swing arm or front shock mount causing wear on the shaft.
Hope not, as mine lives on a Spitfire, too.
So all in all inlines have poor reliability on top of downgraded damping internals (shims etc) compared to the old coils?
Yay.
I'm probably going to take the plunge and get an Ohlins TTX to replace the DB inline on my enduro. The DB inline felt like it had potential but I'm concerned over reliability and i felt like i was always trying to make it work for me rather than it simply feeling great. This was clearly down to whatever the problem was/is with mine but i want something i can rely on.
Sounds like a good idea, think I'm going to go for a TTX or X2.
Yes Teethgrinder a spitfire. See what TFT say when it's been returned. Frame alignment looks ok though.
FWIW we've sold quite alot and not had one back. Which is better than I can say for the DB Air CS.
A lot of shocks on Banshees seem to wear prematurely. It's not alignment, it's flex.
I believe it uses a pretty similar piston and shim stack to the rest of the cane creek range where the piston basically acts as a plunger.
I'm extremely lucky so far if all the bad reports are an example of the majority. mine is an early unit and has been great on my bike although its taken a while to get it sorted.
al - Member
A lot of shocks on Banshees seem to wear prematurely. It's not alignment, it's flex.
Where are you getting this information from? My inline is running fine on my spitfire and its fair to say i dont treat it well.
I'm extremely lucky so far if all the bad reports are an example of the majority. mine is an early unit and has been great on my bike although its taken a while to get it sorted.
If it was an assembly issue then you'd hope that some would have made it through unscathed.
Which is better than I can say for the DB Air CS.
Do go on...
Where do I get my info from? Talking to folk in the know and seeing with my own eyes.
Wouldn't stop me buying a Banshee necessarily though. Quite fancy a Phantom, despite being warned of the issue by folk I'd trust to know better than most.
Which is better than I can say for the DB Air CS.
Do go on...
We have sent a few DB Airs back - mostly due to leaking oil, no inlines.
one year in on my inline on a spitfire and touch wood all good. Certainly dont think the bike is flexi at the back as a cause of shock wear but then I did come from an orange st4 which was endearingly compliant 🙂
I'm going to send it to tft after a cyb trip at the end of the month and hopefully any seal/ bladder issues that have emerged over the year on other peoples shocks will be sorted by the latest servicing knowledge....
Nine months on mine now, had some hammer (sorry), no issues so far.
I was going to buy one of these (they come as OE on the new version of my bike so setup would be easy too). Phoned TF, they said what sort of usage, I said, big 29er, everyday riding, some unskilled enduro racing, uk uplift, occasional trips abroad. They said CCDB Inline no use for that job, get a CCDB Air.
I was pretty surprised at that, no ifs no buts, don't buy this. Even though I think I was pretty clear I couldn't afford to buy a CCDB Air CS from them but I was ready to buy an Inline right then
They tried to put me off them too but my use is similar to yours and I've had no problems. I thought it was higher pressures that cause the issues, I run mine at 180psi
did they say why it wouldn't be suitable? inline was great at fort william last week or at innners before that.
I was pretty surprised at that, no ifs no buts, don't buy this. Even though I think I was pretty clear I couldn't afford to buy a CCDB Air CS from them but I was ready to buy an Inline.
I like that from them, brutally honest....although perhaps if the shock is that bad they probably didn't sell them full stop?
I don't think they were saying it was bad, just not suited to the job I was going to ask of it. It's also possible they thought I was modestly talking my speed and skills down, to be fair 😆 BMC obviously think it's suitable for the bike and it's not like i do anything that a 150mm 29er shouldn't be up for.
I was a bit surprised so didn't really follow it up much, tbf if I'd found an Inline at the price I wanted used, I'd have still tried it, it just convinced me to try and find a full Air as well. I mean, I had an RP23 in the hemlock for the exact same usage and it did the job well enough.
We have sent a few DB Airs back - mostly due to leaking oil, no inlines.
Ta.
I was thinking maybe I'd go for a DB Air on my next bike, have you got a lower proportion of returns on the Monarch Plus?
