[Closed] Carbon 456 - someone stop me

I think I read in the news today that Carbon on-ones give you cancer. Or was that Weetabix?

You'd be throwing your life away.

One of my riding buddies had one and hated it. It seemed to handle been thrown (literally) down hills pretty well though. He now has a BFe which he much prefers.

Hora - I have one which I'm thinking of selling to reduce my fleet. Pretty much mint and no abuse whatsoever as I live in Oxfordshire! It's a small (16") in Matt black

Let me know if of interest or not!

YGM

I've helicopter taped the down tube but the laquer has chipped off the BB area bit after I ran into a log. Other than that it seems fine.

out and about, somewhat in silhouette;

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er... didn't you get rid of the chameleon because it was too firm?

I can't see this being notably different

Just don't run tapered RS forks in it.

thepodge - they're quite forgiving - far more than the steel 456 it replaced, anyway.

Jesus, the Chameleon is STIFF - box-section rear chain stays!

not as forgiving as his 4x

The 4x 8)

Seeing as I'm definitely not having a roadbike I have room another bike in my heart 😀

why no road bike? I'm still toying with the idea. I think soon as better weather kicks in I'll pick one up.

Nobody knows if they're going to break or not to be honest, but they have a two year warranty and they'll [i]probably[/i] be fine anyway.

They are stiff but still very comfy. More so than my steel handjob at least.

I didn't like the looks at all in photos but have got used to it very quickly and of course when you're riding it all you can see is a wide black TT.

One of my riding buddies had one and hated it. It seemed to handle been thrown (literally) down hills pretty well though. He now has a BFe which he much prefers.

Funny, I built a Bfe and C456 up at the same time - and have since sold the Bfe. The 456 was a much better bike for my requirements.

Podge the old track bike fits all my road requirements. Smooth, comfy (yet stiff). Perfick.

I'd be interested to know why the chap preferred the Bfe- what he hated about the c456???

Chaka' what are your riding requirements etc?

It's my XC bike and I suffer from back pain so: Light, comfortable, fast, long-ish top tube - but with a relaxed head angle for composure on technical bits.

I only really bought the Bfe because I was in love with the colour and one came up on the classifieds and I had a "spare" 36 to put on it at the time.

Mark - if you want to have a go on mine and see how ugly it really is let me know - it's an 18" though

back pain. Thats what I used to get even after short rides on hardtails.

is this a good time to tell you they have a few 'paint seconds' going for £299??? 😯

WHERE?

Here you go, to quote from 'Why buy a Carbon 456?' on the on-one website:

A hugely oversized monocoque front triangle modeled on [b]armored personal carriers[/b] deflects rocks and increases strength. [b]30/40 Ton high modulus carbon[/b] is hand laid with the best resins available to produce a stiff, strong frame with just the right amount of compliance in the rear end.

You've got bags of marketing twaffle there, combined with a lazy illiterate use of bad English. That should be enough to put you off.

Personally, the fact that it has 'On-One' written on the down tube and looks like an accident is more than enough to put me off.. 😉

[i]the fact that it has 'On-One' written on the down tube[/i]

if you buy a black one the stickers arrive separatly so mine has a blank downtube.

I'd be interested to know why the chap preferred the Bfe- what he hated about the c456???

I shall ask him next time I see him, never did really find out. I think possibly because his maiden ride on it was awful (route not bike!) and he's a serial bike changer...

The paint seconds for £299 (inc p&p!) are being advertised on Facebook. Really tempted myself hut just can't justify one... I hope I don't regret not getting one in 6 months.

Hora,a total lack of any rear suspension combined with your large mass would lead to an epic fail 😆 and thats before you decide which forks to buy for it! 😀

Please put me off.

The paintwork is poop

Rockshox tapered forks are a no no

Cable routing is shocking

Thats it really, for £299 its a steal.

is this a good time to tell you they have a few 'paint seconds' going for £299???

Just don't run tapered RS forks in it.

Rockshox tapered forks are a no no

On One are on the case and there's a fix in the pipeline, see my thread 🙂

Mine is still THE BEST looking C456 around though...

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Just buy one! I know I'm a bit biased and yes, guilty as charged for marketing waffle and bad English... but I do actually ride one of these and can honestly say that the Carbon 456 is my favourite ever hardtail. Pretty stiff rear end to be sure, but for me that's the fun, it skips through the rough so well it's like riding a lightweight carbon xc hardtail with the stability of a 456. Absolutely love it!!! 🙂

There is a really tasteful white one on ebay for £2500 I have heard

Hey, would love to buy one. I rang at lunchtime and spoke to someone in planetx/different dept who tried his best to describe the faulty finish as 'orange peel' effect on the frame. So I emailed and asked if they could send me a couple of shots of the imperfections if possible. No ones comeback to me yet.

Its a leap of faith to spend £300 on something that has a described-visual fault. I'm not into revisiting a Post office if I disagree on the finish. After all its £300. Alot of anyones money.

Oh well.

What's the problem with RS tapered forks, I hadn't noticed any comments about that on the forums?

I've got a tapered Rev Team with appropriate crown race for the Smoothie mixer waiting to go on a C456 frame and I'm concerned now!

then pay full price and get one with a paint finish you know you won't want to return?

It's going to be difficult to photograph a poor paint finish anyway, I'd think?

It travelled two hours from Wigan to On One's place in Rotherham two months ago 'to buy one' and after spending an hour and a half being passed from pillar to post I was hurriedly asked to describe a spec, the lad (Ben) was nice, asssured me he had done 8ft jumps on one and was fine, the down tube has a kevlar band built into it to deflect stones/protect the frame.

I specced a beauty of a bike, best part of £1300 for a single speeder, he said he would send me an invoice to confirm build spec and exact pricing and I could order. Three times I chased them up and got two return calls about a week after the chase, still no invoice, still no order, they snoozed the loozed (lost!)

I bought a Niner Air 9 from Chevins instead, love it to bits, goes like stink and I didn't have to beg them to buy from them.

paperbackwriter;

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only an issue on 16" frames from what I've read on that thread.

Its paint...on a bike frame.

Seriously, its not going to give you the AIDS or anything. And lets be honest, you're not the hardest rider in the world are you - I've seen the pics.

Stop fannying around and just buy one before they are gone.

I've seen the pics

Cracked Summer season refunded.
Previously a 18" noodley Ti456 and...me on my previous 16" 456
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Still makes me a cash £ customer sweetie. 😆

loving the 'this is a tricky bit' tongue 🙂

shame they dont do it in the 'whippet' colours, that looks really sweet, and majorly expensive!

Oscillate Wildly - Member
shame they dont do it in the 'whippet' colours, that looks really sweet, and majorly expensive!

not sure if this will work but:

456 in whippet colours.

where are the £299 ones on the On One site?

I think you'd need to phone or look on Facebook ken.

Thanks

Best I call them then as I don't do Facebook

Ken, from FB: paint seconds 16/18/20" frames with choice of colour decal with either vertical or horizontal swapouts for £299.99 2 year warranty free UK delivery email me at ben dot ononebikes at gmail dot com

That's 300+the headset cost or for 400 you can have a non-seconds, bars, headset and grips etc..

yeah there is the mix and match bundle. I wish I hadn't pre-ordered as I missed out on headset and bars. They have put their prices up recently as the headset used to be £40 and is now £45 with "10% off" and the swap outs used to be a very reasonable £9.99 each but they are now £15 each which IMO is too much as it's £30 for both you need to convert to SS.

You can get a lighter headset from Superstar for £40 but if interested in a 16" I would possibly go for the On One headset until the tapered fork issue is sorted as any solution might be based around that.

The selection of bars in the mix-and-match bundle was worse than hopeless when I got mine btw.

Just got in from another ride on it. Really do love this bike!

Andyl, confused. What if you are running purely 1 1/8 forks on a 16"?

i have to admit to being tempted by these on more than one occasion. getting the front end up on the steel 456 wasn't easy though due to the long top tube perhaps. and that was running a 16" with a 50mm stem

if i bought one the 'spare' magura wotans i'd be fitting to it wouldn't help. they weigh nearly twice as much as the frame!

Hora - running a normal 1 1/8th steerer is fine on the 16" but be prepared for 50mm of spacers if you have a 200mm steerer tube!

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PeterPoddy - Member

Mine is still THE BEST looking C456 around though...

Would beg to differ mate..............

Still looks like this a month on, ridden 4 short rides due to nasty foot injury, gutted. Maybe in for surgery and a long lay off so could be for sale........ gutted.

trully brill, i treat mine like shit, 4 to 5 foot drop off. huge jumps and cane it down rock gardens using a Fox 36 RC2 FIT fork up front, i have come off it and watched it tummble down hill sides clang down huge rocks. dropped it off a bridge into a river once, totally bombproof, the one that was tested passed the new CEN tests with flying colours, get one and dont worry about it breaking because if you do they will replace it for half price for ever, and you get a 2year warranty with it

HORO... exactly that was my thoughts, buy a seconds for £300 then buy the headset £50.. Or buy the bundle and sell the bars and grips for a combined amount of £20 on fleabay, so a brand new frame and headset costs £380, well worth buying a new one in the bundle.
Just wish they had kept the dull raw carbon going because i may just have gone for that one. mind you more choices could be a bad idea and the red and black one was well out of the question as it reminds me of a shitealized s-works

Would beg to differ mate

With that colour clash? Nahh. I think not!
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Get rid of the white forks and those nasty stripy tyres and it'd look ace with that green on black though.
I held off buying new forks for mine purely because I couldn't find the right ones in black. 🙂

Does anyone know if there is a weight limit on the C456? Cheers

@mountainman123: you mean this matte raw UD carbon one? 😀

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Pic taken shortly before it encouraged me to do a very steep and rocky decent i wouldnt ever have done on my Merlin which went well until I stacked it in a rut and cracked a rib hitting the poploc remote!

Robbo - weight limit - no idea. Not sure there is one tbh. I am about 14 1/2 stone and I am not worried in the slightest.

Ps yes the dog is knackered in that picture, and the saddle has slipped and the chainstay protector is temporary.

Hmm.. could you buy a raw frame and then paint it up yourself?

I'm sure you could request an unpainted one. Would have to be careful what paint you use - like with motorbike/car helmets.

They did say that you could do custom paint jobs, but I'm not sure if anything ever came of it. I had an awesome design in my head, but it was going to take too long.

Hmmmm Im very tempted to get one.