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[Closed] Can anyone see any point in this product?

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[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=48105 ]Race Face Triple bash[/url]

Can I see the point in a bash guard you use with a triple chainset? YES

Can I see the point in a bash guard that only works if you keep your feet in one specific position? NO

Talk about a niche product. Am I missing something???! 😕


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 10:46 am
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Yes you are.

There's a limited range of angles your cs is likely to take a hit at because your pedals will usually be horizontal or near it, and you will usually be leading with the same foot.

Therefore this covers it, at minimal weight, and usual level of over-priced-ness.

However if you descend with your chain on the big ring, it's almost redundant.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 10:58 am
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...and you will usually be leading with the same foot.

Still totally unconvinced Al. Bash guards aren't all about free-wheeling downhill. My bash guard gets the most "bashes" when pedalling on rocky/rooty technical sections. Sure, a few rocks ping up when downhilling too, but surely I'm not the only one who likes to pedal on the downhills as well. As soon as you start pedalling this bash is rendered useless.

If you really want to save wait on a bash, get a taco or similar which attaches onto the chain device or BB, and then you don't have any issues of having to have one foot forward for it to work.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 11:14 am
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IMO/E any bash serious enough to damage your big ring (i.e. losing a bit of a few teeth, so what?) will be when your weight is on the bike and not from ricks coming up.

I've never hit the ring while pedalling, the pedals hit the rocks first?


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 11:56 am
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surely if your feet aren't level, one of your pedals will be lower than the ring anyway? Not sure how you bash your ring?


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 12:09 pm
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And what he said.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 12:10 pm
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I always bash the same teeth on my chainset - so much so that they are pretty much missing - but doesn't affect pedalling at all.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 12:19 pm
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And what he said too.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 12:28 pm
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footlaps - do you really hit your ring that much? 😕 back when I worked in bike shops you wouldn't believe the number of folk that came in complaining of chainring teeth being broken/damaged/missing when it was simply the lower profile/missing tooth patern designed to aid shifting that they'd never noticed before.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 12:35 pm
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I sometimes pedal my bike over rough and rocky terrain. When I pedal my feet go around and around. Unsurprisingly this means my lead foot is not always in the lead. This bash is then rendered useless since it is pointing up in the air. Clearly it is just me who rides in this exotic manner 😕


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:02 pm
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I sometimes pedal my bike over rough and rocky terrain. When I pedal my feet go around and around [u]and hit stuff that's much lower than my chainring so it never hits anything[/u]

FTFY!!! 😀


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:06 pm
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From having Raced/Ridden DH on occasion, and Bashed a Bash ring now and then I can see the advantages;

You normally tend to catch the Bash when piling off a drop in to rocks or roots or ploughing into a rock garden or similar obstacles you do normally level the pedals for this and we all have a favoured footing so the odds are that most rock/root strikes will occur within the same quarter of the ring… obviously a Taco makes sense if your using one ring and a chain device but for minimal weight gain on a triple where you might manage to catch a rock or root a ¼ guard makes sense to me probably suite a 5, pitch or similar 5-6” “AM” type bikes…

The concept of a ¼ guard is of course stolen (like many good ideas) from BMX where they are handy for grinds, again normally done with the same leading foot… so yet again nothing truly new…

If you can’t see the point then I expect you probably don’t need one…


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:22 pm
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[i]*can't let it go*[/i]

I get bash rings and have argued for them many times. I have bashed a bash ring more than once. I get the leading foot logic when letting gravity do its thing. What I don't get is why you wouldn't have a 1/4 guard mounted on the BB rather than the chain ring, where you have all the advantages of the chainring mounted 1/4 guard with none of the disadvantages. Have I imagined a product that does not exist?

Am I really the only one who can see a circumstance where pedalling can lead to hitting the chain ring? See that big rock step-up? I have to pedal up that. I give it a big udge with my lead foot to help loft the front wheel up. Yay, my front wheel is on top, but my lead foot is no longer leading. Mmm, there's not enough clearance for my chainring on this. oops, bang. This is not something that has happened once back in 1998 to me and never again. This is why I bought a bash ring (when I realised it wan't rocks pinging up from below!). Does everyone else just push their bike up and along stuff like that?

To be fair you've all answered my OP in the affirmative, so not much more to see here 😀


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:43 pm
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Think of it more as “Statistical” coverage:

90% of strikes will occur on approximately 25% of the Circumference of the chain ring with this product you are hedging your bets for the other 10% of impacts, and saving 75% of the weight… In theory anyway

If you regularly **** both sides of your chain ring then yeah you probably need a full bash…


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:51 pm
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I always bash the same part on my chainring, the bit between 2 and 5 o'clock on the chaining (assuming the crank arm is 12). So, can't see why this wouldnt work. When I rode trials back in the day it was always bashed in the same spot as well.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 4:53 pm
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What's the phrase I'm looking for here.... umm...

LOLlercopters?

Yep, that's it, LOLlercopters!

I have nothing to add as the need for this product has been explained more than once.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 5:00 pm
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Every time I've bent or broken the teeth on an outer ring it has been on the same part of the ring and from rocks kicked up by the front wheel. This has always happened while coasting down hill at speed. One of these guards would have saved teeth on 2 brand new rings.

I think they are a good idea. If only because a full bash ring on a triple would look like a dodgy chain guard.


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 5:02 pm
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If you regularly **** both sides of your chain ring then yeah you probably need a full bash…

no no no

get 2 1/4 bash guards

90% of strikes will occur on approximately 50% of the Circumference of the chain ring with these 2 product you are hedging your bets for the other 5% of impacts, and saving 50% of the weight

😆


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 5:05 pm
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You're mixing your memes Yeti. LOLLERSKATES or ROFLCOPTERS


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 5:10 pm