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Placed one bolt through both plate and carbon. Just the female bolt end and you can wiggle the bolt clearly from side to side. Is that ok?!.. With torsional forces etc are those two wee plates on each side 'enough' in terms of longevity?
Not confidence inspiring at all. One years warranty for good reason?!
The rest of the frame is finished nicely which is a shame. Should I trust those two short metal plates to hold the wheels right etc on a long descent?
No, don't trust them.
Put the frame on the classifieds... 😉
hora, you do realise, the 1st time you ride your 456 offroad on anything rocky, you will feel like you have been bummed by a big gorilla........ 😀
Christ - the seed of doubt is there in his mind. Anyone want a 456? Check the classifieds in a fortnight.
I think you may be exceeding the max frame weight for a starter? 😀 Hope you're not putting them massive Zocchis on it as well? I think this could lead to "Hard core Hard Tail Fail" 😀 .... see you Sunday amigo.
2 year warranty surely?
😯
One years warranty for good reason?!
Like that matters! 🙂
hora - email in profile when you are ready 🙂
C456 bolt on drop outs don't wobble. Ususally they are a bitch to fit as they are quite tight. When fitted they feel bonded to the frame and don't come loose at all easily. If yours are loose try checking the screw tightness without the dropout fitted.
Think yourself lucky to have gotten those plates and bolts, not everyone is so lucky. Makes fitting a mech and the wheels a right pita! 🙂 What happens when you put both bolts in and tighten it up? If its still loose then you've got bother.
Frame is brand new/unbuilt. Definitely not snug. Over time that'd create wear wear if not retorqued. I looked the frame over/inspected.
Wont matter yer frames to small anyway . Was probably a minicab before
One post months ago and you hold a grudge? If I say all those models of cars are quite ugly would you dispear to the toilet to cry? My car isn't very 'masculine'. Should I pop down canal street for a bit of slap and tickle? Grow a pair man 😆Was probably a minicab before
C456 - Yes its 2yrs. Unbuilt it just seems so bloody flimsy. The rear dropouts are literally perched on at the very end via the 4 bolts. Just makes you feel a wee bit nervous. The rest of the frame - the finish is spot on. I can't fault it anywhere.
Wont matter yer frames to small anyway .
Aren't Hora's frames normally too large, with him wishing he'd gone for the size down?
More interesting is that nearly every product that he buys seems to be faulty in some way.
Is there some sort of industry conspiracy to send him all the Monday specials/warranty returns/seconds?
Hora (nice retort BTW) the bolts should be quite a tight fit in the holes in the frame. I think I had to gently tap mine in TBH.
And yes, in your hand, the frame is scarily light and flimsy (try pressing on the top of the top tube...) I soon got over that though. They are solid things to ride. 🙂
I think I had to gently tap mine in TBH.
Mine don't- I've had a bit of a play again and I'll give them a call. The tolerance may be fine.
A grudge ? Nah it was just that every post on car i read from you was about not believin the milage and it was probably a mini cab . I found it quite funny 🙂 trust me thats nothing . On another forum im windin a fella up about his engine being fake 🙂
My old style Heckler had bolt on drop outs, and that was hard as nails!!
My C 456 came with dropouts on, but no thread lock. I would check any bolts already on for it.
Yep threadlocked. Will give them a call. The last frame I had that was circa 3.3lb's was a Rocky Mountain Vertex but that was a work of art.
In a few weeks time, the On-One warranty guy will be off sick through work related stress...
😉 
Rode mine for the first time last weekend. epic bike. you'll love it when built. certainly doesn't feel flimsy when built at all.
Very quick turn around when I had a cracked Summer season. No quibble.In a few weeks time, the On-One warranty guy will be off sick through work related stress...
for an easy life :d
howd you crack a summer season ? mines had a full on beating ... i cant believe you would be so unlucky to have every broken frame ever made from every manufacturer ....
I don't break frames- cracked the seat tube from my fat ass. NOT coreness. I only seem to be unlucky with forks tbh.
Alles Klar 8)
Oi! I've got first dibs on this frame in Hora's January Sale 😆
[quote=binners ]Oi! I've got first dibs on this frame in Hora's [s]January[/s]Boxing Day Sale FTFY
Oi! I've got first dibs on this frame in Hora's January Sale
Its abit overbuilt for your style of riding though Binners. You'd be better off getting the Whippet tbh.
Never have the words 'Binners' and 'Whippet' been used in the same sentence...
Overbuilt? Still 1500g though. Still very light.
Never have the words 'Binners' and 'Whippet' been used in the same sentence...
😆
You know the SC Chameleon had a bottle opener built in?
Theres the new On One Warrington Whippet with built in fag packet holder ready for binners..
Actually ... Fair point.. I think I best stick to steel. The trusty P7 does appear to have been built from girders! Just as well 😀
It's probably good design, using bolts in [s]torsion[/s] shear (brainfade) is not always a good idea, so its possible that its been designed to use the preload tension of the bolts to create a frictional grip (although I have not seen the design). But you could learn a lot by googling HSFG bolts - especially useful in high fatigue or stress applications.
Most modern steel railway bridges are held together this way.
Got mine rode it for a while with the standard dropouts, it was fine, changed to slot dropouts for SS, at the time I thought they looked a bit shonky too but 12months on still fine. Guess they must be ok after all.
druidh >> binners » Oi! I've got first dibs on this frame in Hora's [s]JanuaryBoxing[/s] xmas eve Sale
I built up a 20" for a friend in July where the hex bolts thread was poor/not full length resulting in the plates not being able to torque up.On-one were excellent and sent a replacement set with drop-outs next day(!) 😀
Have you tried a seatpost in yet? Sometimes that can be fun too. Once up and running though I think you'll find it a unique combination of abilities.
good point- I need a seat collar.
ah yes, carbon seatpost with this frame you'll need some grip paste 😕
Seatppst is 27.2 with a shim. An issue?
this one was slipping http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SPMAXMALL/maxm_alloy_seat_post
alloy shim should be fine without overtightened clamp
Going to shim mine. Got a 27.2 dia carbon post thats currently in my steel 456. Used one of the USE thermoplastic shims in my roadbike to good effect. So will be using one of them in the C456.
Seatppst is 27.2 with a shim. An issue?
So long as the shim is at least 100mm long I won't complain.
Few are...
So long as the shim is at least 100mm long I won't complain.Few are...
Badaboom
http://www.use1.com/product/000062/seat-post-shims/
100mm long 😉