[Closed] British cyclist fails in-competition drugs test

I've just seen that too.

Named as: Simon Yates fails drugs test, report suggests

Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/leading-british-rider-fails-drugs-test-report-suggests-223048#r6XHHoVeogXIeRzY.99

I've really enjoy watching the two brothers. I hope it's a mistake and it's a recently banned item and just a bad management but...........

It does indeed appear to be Yates. BC not denying it for a start.

I know given recent years this can be a stupid thing to say but the idea that Yates would dope does seem a stretch... but who knows.

I hope it's a false positive or change to list as above...

According to the race radio twitter feed, the team doctor failed to file asthma TUE forms. Hell of a screw up if true

http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/statement-regarding-simon-yates-adverse-analytical-finding.phps

Does every pro cyclist have asthma?

Yes every single Pro rider suffers, ask the team Doctor, cough cough,

I did envisage this, in a post earlier today 2 Months before the Olympics, I'd like to say that smug Aussie **** knows what he's doing, but some one would label me racist or a biggot so I'll just call him a ****, I won't use the C word,

And no it's not Crocodile

I thought terbutaline doesn't have any positive effects for non-asthmatics?

As already mentioned...... Another pro cyclist who suffers from asthma????!!!! The number of pro's who 'suffer' from this.....it must be a medical concern for those who promote cycling as part of a healthy lifestyle. Perhaps it just at professional level as no one I cycle with 2 times a week suffers from it.

Perhaps it just at professional level as no one I cycle with 2 times a week suffers from it.

It's on tv news now...

mikewsmith - Member
Perhaps it just at professional level as no one I cycle with 2 times a week suffers from it.

I know a few who do, really hard to spot until they have the inhaler out.

Theres an air of inevitability, still hope its an admin oversight, but not looking good.

I have asthma and cycle. Mind you, it not done my climbing much good, I'm still slow.

Most of the asthma drugs have no effect if you aren't asthmatic.

And i reckon you'd have a far higher incidence of asthma in the general population if the general population actually did some bloody exercise.

I think there's quite a lot of "blueprinting" of parameters for athletes - seems in my limited (non-cycling) experience that there's a lot of hypothyroidism in pro athletes too

Team statement

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My gp said I've got exercise induced asthma.

The cold air gets deeper into the lungs faster so doesn't get warmed. As a defence the lungs don't open as well.

Well that's how it was explained to my simple mind.

I have exorcise induced asthma (plus the normal kind) as well. Mrs FRC has exorcise induced asthma too.

exorcise induced asthma

1 in 12 adults suffer from asthma in the UK . Certain cycling teams have a third or more of its riders in/on asthma treatment. It surely raises a question. which or what question??

exercise induced asthma

It's a condition that exists & is well know, however it is surprising how many pro cyclists suffer from it....

I hope this is a genuine case of a missing bona fide TUE................

Has anyone ever seen a pro athlete* using an inhaler?

*It's seemingly an issue in many sports.

To ride faster you need to get more oxygen into your blood. Its not surprising that a lot of Pros use medication to achieve that.

Taking it for asthma or not will still open up your lungs.

If your career, mortgage, car payments all depend on it you will take it. Afterall if your Doctor gives it to you its not cheating is it.

@moncapitan:
[Cough] http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/froome-sky-respond-inhaler-video-125751 [/cough]

exorcise induced asthma

Even I know how to fake it that I have asthma as the test s just to you have a bigger breath in the evening than in the morning

There Is clearly a massive skewing to professional cyclist for asthma rates and you need to be pretty naive to think its all genuine

I sometimes get a wee cough if I've been pushing on a bit. I just assumed that was a normal physiological reaction to exercise (I've heard it called a Testers Cough?) I'll have a word with my GP, show him some links to all these pro athletes and see if he'll prescribe me something.

I know a few who do, really hard to spot until they have the inhaler out.

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genesiscore502011 - Member

1 in 12 adults suffer from asthma in the UK . Certain cycling teams have a third or more of its riders in/on asthma treatment. It surely raises a question. which or what question??

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mrlebowski - Member

exercise induced asthma

It's a condition that exists & is well know, however it is surprising how many pro cyclists suffer from it....

I hope this is a genuine case of a missing bona fide TUE................

My wife has asthma, 99% of the time you would never know. She can handle moderate activity fine. The only time she ever really needs her inhaler is when doing very strenuous exercise, she has a cold or is at altitude. You may find that the reason more pros are diagnosed asthmatic is because they notice when they are riding hard. I wonder how many undiagnosed asthmatics there are in the population.

As this article explains Ashma amongst athletes is real not imagined. I developed exercise induced ashma when I gave up smoking, and started running and cycling properly. But it only startd when I returned from a warm climate to live back in the UK.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/28/asthma-elite-athletes-study-swimmers-cyclist-eid

For me it's not a question of can you cycle with asthma, more how does someone who supposidly suffers from asthma get to the pinnacle of the sport? The whole area of TUEs is a bit iffy if you ask me.

forzafkawi - Member

more how does someone who supposidly suffers from asthma get to the pinnacle of the sport

Medical treatment.

Also, motors in their bikes.

If I use my medication properly and my Ashma is controlled I feel fine. As far as I can tell I'm not at any real disadvantage. It's probably much the same for the pro's. But if you gave me a choice of being Ashma free and being able to bin my inhalers I'd bite your hand off !!! I'd imagine Yates, Froome ect would feel the same.

Northwind - Member

forzafkawi - Member

more how does someone who supposidly suffers from asthma get to the pinnacle of the sport

Medical treatment.

Exactly. If it's a banned substance it should be banned for everyone.

I develop exercise induced exhaustion, what can you proscribe me for that?

And whilst your at it, can you give me something for eating induced lardiness too.... 😳

Well if the Doctor prescribes it for your "Condition" its not cheating is it 🙂

I also suffer from a low hct level. I can't perform as well as others that don't suffer from this. Surely there must be something I can take to remove this disadvantage?

And a genuine question, if terbutaline 'only' works for asthmatics, why is it on the banned list?

And a genuine question, if terbutaline 'only' works for asthmatics, why is it on the banned list?

I was just thinking the same. I would guess it's twofold, first any drug will have potential side effects and whether it has a performance benefit or not some non-asthmatics will believe it will and take without medical supervision/in massive doses. Second it may have no proven benefits, but still may enhance the performance, so they ban it as there's no legitimate use for it unless you suffer from a particular condition.

It doesn't seem that far fetched that more pros would have asthma diagnosed than the general population. Also I would imagine the numbers would be higher than 1/3rd if there was a druggy advantage to be had.

I developed asthma from smoking years ago. when I stopped smoking and started getting a good dose of physical exercise it all cleared up. weird that eh?

I developed asthma from smoking years ago. when I stopped smoking and started getting a good dose of physical exercise it all cleared up. weird that eh?

Not really, people suffer from asthma at lots of different levels. I used to smoke and have sports induced asthma (but don't need to medicate). My mate has never smoked a cigarette, is very fit but has horrendous asthma which can prevent him sleeping at night and he always has his inhaler on him.

Yours was probably very mild but the smoking exacerbated it

And a genuine question, if terbutaline 'only' works for asthmatics, why is it on the banned list?

I think it's considered a potential masking agent. Potential only mind - not sure there is any proof it works. That's certainly one of the asthma drugs, I think it was this one but can't find anything specific.

A right balls up if it went down like it is being described. And one that means he might have a couple of years watching homes under the hammer irrespective of whose fault it was.

It might be on the banned list as it has a benefit for some sports and not other. Thinking a bit of the the Alain Baxter case were whatever was in the US version of the vics inhaler was on the banned list was absolutely no benefit to a salom skier.
As Scotroutes said I notice if I have done a sprint session in cold weather, with a cough and a bit of "restriction" afterwards. Given that the training session a pro athlete does there must be a greater chance of seeing the symptoms than the general population.

And a genuine question, if terbutaline 'only' works for asthmatics, why is it on the banned list?

Think it's treated as a controlled substance as opposed to 'banned'. The TUE's are supposed enable control so that someone who would benefit doesn't abuse it. There's a rough total number of times an inhaler can be used in a time period which is born out by the amount found in the bloodstream.

Has anyone ever seen a pro athlete* using an inhaler?

I'm no where near pro but have been diagnosed with asthma from before I was 10 and I often need to take drugs at the start of exercise, however, I have only once in many years of racing got asthma during a race. I've actually raised this with my Dr and they didn't know why this may be the case either, the only thought we had is whether increased levels of adrenaline might have a part to play. I must one day get around to doing more research.