Forum menu
Brake hose replacem...
 

[Closed] Brake hose replacement advice

Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Hi, I'm setting up a new to me orange 5 and have decided (after a previous thread) that I will thread the hose through the swing arm.

I'm going to put new hose on as well on the rear but need advice on removing the old hose, I know how to remove the hose but how do I drain the fluid, and to refil can I just push fluid through from the caliper?

Oh and what cable should I use? They are avid Elixer 5's. I guess I'll need a bleed kit too, do I need the official one?

Thanks


 
Posted : 04/05/2013 11:54 pm
Posts: 66105
Full Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Why are you replacing the hose?

Epic bleed kit is good. Removing fluid you can just fit the syringe to the caliper, open up the lever end and suck, that'll get most of it. And then to refill, just follow the bleed instructions.


 
Posted : 04/05/2013 11:56 pm
Posts: 4016
Full Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

[url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181121524335 ]Epic bleed kit[/url]


 
Posted : 04/05/2013 11:58 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Is it not easier to get the system air free if you avoid draining it completely?


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:04 am
Posts: 66105
Full Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Not really if you're replacing the hose- avid bleed process will make the rest simple enough. But yes normally you don't want to make it any harder than it has to be. Personally I wouldn't drain it but then I have an unhealthily blase attitude to corrosive poison ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:08 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Not really if you're replacing the hose- avid bleed process will make the rest simple enough.

Would you say the same thing goes for Shimano brakes?

Oh, and sorry for the slight hijack but I just happen to be in a possible hose replacing situation as well.


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:15 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Replacing as it seemed easier to do that and feed the hose through the swing arm whilst empty.


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:26 am
Posts: 66105
Full Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

TBH Mosey, if the hoses are suitable length I wouldn't replace 'em, just take an end off. YMMV though but that's what I did with my Formulas.

svalgis - Member

Would you say the same thing goes for Shimano brakes?

I don't know the latest Shimanos tbh. My old M775s were dead simple once you threw away the instructions ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:38 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Yeah think ill just remove an end. Lever or calliper? I reckon calliper as it must be easier to feed through the swing arm grommet end first?


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 12:43 am
Posts: 507
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Unless you have a crimped-on fitting, caliper end every time. Don't forget to feed the hose under the shock before you start,and try to get an outward curve in the first inch or two as the hole inside the arm is slightly offset. Once pushed in, push it until it just passes the exit, hook it with a bent piece of wire and pull it snug against the arm, pull it back through until it's end is exposed, where it's then an easy job to push in another bent piece of wire(pointed goes in easier)to guide it out whilst pushing the hose from the front.(try to avoid removing the grommet, they're a **** to refit once there's a hose in them).


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 8:24 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Brilliant thanks, ill order an epic bleed lot and get it done this week.


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 8:38 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

A little tip for replacing the hose or a gear cable through the swingarm:

Put an old gear cable inside the first inch or so of the brake hose before removing and tape in place.
Pull hose out slowly so that the gear cable is pulled through in it's place.
When completely out (the hose!), do the same to the hose to go back in, remembering to put any grommets on before threading (assuming you're threading from the front).
Pull gear cable through slowly, wiggling the hose to get through the internal baffles.
When hose appears out the far end, remove gear cable.

Saves one hell of a lot of faffing!!


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 11:15 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

When you say inside do you mean inside or taped to the outside?

If I'm not emptying the hose how can I put a gear cable inside?

I'm going to give the gear cable a go now.


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 4:14 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Push it up the inside a bit, less likely to snag on anything on the way through.

If you're taking the caliper or lever off, you'll most likely need to bleed anyway.


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 4:34 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I think I'll do calliper and feed through from the front. Bleed kit is ordered so that's happening this week.

Can I just unattached the hose at the calliper and thread it through?

Won't it gush fluid?


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 4:48 pm
Posts: 507
Free Member
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Take the lever off the bar, if it hangs below the swingarm level it's not going to have gravity helping the fluid run out(not that much will come out anyway).


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 6:25 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
Translate โ–ผ
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Right cheers, gear cable is done and through. Must have been luck but the gear cable popped straight out the rear hole.

Brake cable attempt later tonight. Now it's rib and beer time.

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the help.

Here it is so far, KS Lev to be fitted. I'm proper happy with it. Can't wait to ride it now.

[IMG] [/IMG]
[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 05/05/2013 7:00 pm