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Been tempted, anyone got one on an AM bike? How does it compare to a RP23
Also tempted for a Mojo SL to replace a push'd RP23 BV. Like the sound of the firm mid-stroke, but still plush on the small stuff.
I had a day at Laggan with one fitted to a Nicolai AFR...it was really really nice.
Almost wanted to swap my CCDB for one!
Good Luck
Yep I have just fitted one to my AM. Have had the RP23 and a CCDB. RP23 was pants; just blew through the mid stroke and sagged around its baggy ring like a gilf.
The CCDB is sublime but heavy. The Vip'r seems to be almost as good as the CCDB; it's pretty conservative in the way it uses its travel, doesn't get flustered and seems to make the AM even more neutral in its ride characteristic. Oh and it's a whole pound lighter.
I have a 216 x 63 VIP'r for sale which was bought to go on a Helius AM and has only 3 rides on it.
I have decided not to go with the Nicolai so the shock is now available.
Looks like I may be saving up for one then.
MBnut - how much you selling your for? email me if you prefer - barnt at hotmail dot com
I have a CCDB (on a Covert) which I love but keep wondering if I should have got the Vip'r 🙁 can it [i]really[/i] be almost as good as one of the best coil shocks?!
Bushw, there's a fair bit about the vipr (and other Bos stuff) here:
[url= http://forums.mtbr.com/nicolai/bos-suspension-671338-14.html ]Mtbr nic/bos thread[/url]
Do you not need the right mounting kit? might be problematic 2nd hand?
Dipper (Richard) at gravity sports is usually pretty keen price wise.
Very interesting... 🙂
I did a back to back test thing in the summer and wrote it up on here. If I wanted or needed a new air shock it would probably be a VIPr, but my custom Pushed Float is good enough for me not to change.
I have one on my Nic AM went from CCDB, nice, to BOS Stoy, sublime plush to Vipr which as geetee says is very close to coil feel, super mid stroke control but much lighter...I've ripped mine on lots of gnarr in the Italian SuperEnduro series and really rate it. I do however also like the much improved rp23 kashima I have on my little bike. But it does still seem to give up it's mid more easily than the BOS and rely on the BV.
can it really be almost as good as one of the best coil shocks?!
Sort of. It's quite a different beast to the CCDB. The CCDB that I am running, based on how it's set up, feels a lot more 'dynamic'. That is, the low speed rebound is set up so that it's really easy to get the bike in the air; it 'pops' off things very easily and the low speed compression works really really well.
The Vip'r doesn't have quite the same dynamic feel, especially around the low speed rebound, but the low speed compression is very good and keeps the bike in check when working it through undulating terrain. The high speed circuits are every bit as good as the CCDB; it feels extremely composed, unflustered and at speed I can't really feel the difference between this and the CCDB.
I think Messiah makes a good point that he has had his RP23 tuned, but I also think he's quite a bit lighter than I am, which makes the stock RP23's problem of blowing through the mid stroke when the air pressure is set right for sag even more of an issue.
I think lighter riders will likely run a much lower air pressure than they might expect on the Vip'r (and incidentally the Devile fork, which is excellent when paired with the Vipr. In fact I would go as far as to say that the real value of the Vip'r is in running it with the Devile. I think that the way they go about their business is really quite different to other units and so pairing them together makes not just a lot of sense, but also mighy be the key to making the set up work for you).