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[Closed] Best to call Alpine non-DH non-XC riding "All Mountain","Enduro" or "Freeri

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Already been done, it's quite popular in Austria, they even have special uphill bikes that weigh nothing and only have one brake.

Dear lord! ๐Ÿ˜•

Oh well, it takes all sorts I suppose.


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 4:42 pm
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[i]I just call it going for a ride. [/i]

No you don't ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 5:01 pm
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Irs interesting that how much of real world riding is just akward rather than big drops

I use to be quite good at that sort of thing back in the day. At 7 stanes last week I felt quite rubbish at the low speed rocky stuff


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 5:41 pm
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Uplift companies need to invent uphill riding. Its like Downhill but the opposite.

roadies love that. a guy i know who i told about my white room chalet holiday laughed and said they got dropped off in the valley each day and rode up, got collected on the pass and did another climb in the PM.

MENTAL!


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 6:11 pm
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but then if you're only on here to pick fights and have no interest in mountain biking, then I suppose it might well be like naval gazing

Good photos yes and of course I have an interest in mtbing but this further and further sub-categorisation is bullshit, marketing and an ego **** to make people feel hardcore.


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 6:19 pm
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roadies love that. a guy i know who i told about my white room chalet holiday laughed and said they got dropped off in the valley each day and rode up, got collected on the pass and did another climb in the PM.

MENTAL!

The problem is decending a properly steep pass on a road bike isnt much fun (IME), on nice flowing roads where theres oppertunity to pedals it is, but in the alps i imagine its just scary!


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 6:44 pm
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I'm surprised nobody's suggested XXXXXXXXC or aggressive XC ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 6:48 pm
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looks no different to mountain trails to be honest


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 11:38 pm
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looks no different to mountain trails to be honest

We took an award-winning Dutch journalist from Fiets magazine to ride the 1st stage of the Rally Sardegna MTB [url= http://www.rallydisardegnabike.it/index.php?l=1 ]http://www.rallydisardegnabike.it/index.php?l=1[/url] , a 6-day 70-km-a-day event, each stage has a technical "special stage" sandwiched between transfers, the stage finished with some big steps which are hard on a hardtail...he said, "I am an averagely-skilled Dutch rider, for me this is enduro...our readership would not expect to find this labelled XC." So labelling is unfortunately needed, hence the debate about categories. Skiing is divided into alpine/downhill, XC, snowboard, skimountaineering, we're just having the same discussion here. Bet you guys look for these labels when you're booking a holiday? ciao


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 8:27 pm
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Skiing is divided into alpine/downhill, XC, snowboard, skimountaineering

Snowboarding and skiing are not different disciplines of the same sport, Peter.

At the end of the day, it is simple semantics. Call it enduro and be done with it.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 9:22 pm
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Cross-frocore-jeymountain-downhill(lite).

Fo' sho'.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 9:30 pm
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looks no different to mountain trails to be honest

We took an award-winning Dutch journalist from Fiets magazine to ride the 1st stage of the Rally Sardegna MTB http://www.rallydisardegnabike.it/index.php?l=1 , a 6-day 70-km-a-day event, each stage has a technical "special stage" sandwiched between transfers, the stage finished with some big steps which are hard on a hardtail...he said, "I am an averagely-skilled Dutch rider, for me this is enduro...our readership would not expect to find this labelled XC." So labelling is unfortunately needed, hence the debate about categories. Skiing is divided into alpine/downhill, XC, snowboard, skimountaineering, we're just having the same discussion here. Bet you guys look for these labels when you're booking a holiday? ciao

errr no i dont.
i look for where i want to go


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 9:34 pm
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IMO

[url= http://www.allmountainventure.com/ ]All mountain[/url] / Enduro - Ride up a [u]mountain[/u] and then bomb down a technical descent.

Trail / technical trail - Ride up a hill and bomb down a technical descent.

Marathon - Long distance or high elevation gain or both.

Shuttle run - Getting a lift to a trail head.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 10:17 pm
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Jedi surely the phrase north shore attracted you to Whistler


 
Posted : 10/06/2011 10:37 pm
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no!!!! i wasn't arsed about going there! bc trails for the win


 
Posted : 10/06/2011 10:39 pm
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i have the same problem describing to guests the nature of a ride.

free ride.
UK: jumps, drops, man-made bits ridden on a "big" bike
europe: riding high alpine single trails on a medium travel bike. the UK idea of "free ride" comes under "bike park".

XC.
UK: dashing about the hills/in the woods on walking/single trails.
europe: up and down on wide tracks, e.g. fire roads, as fast as you can.

in germany trails riding is a genre itself. the idea that you don't think riding on tight single track to be the norm is alien to me.

i think the norwegians (assumption made on those i've ridden with) tend to agree more with UK terminology. probably because there aren't that many wide open tracks everywhere, just near vertical walking trails.

i can't be done with the whole "enduro", "marathon" (who wants to shag themselves out riding uphill only to ride on some wide track on the way back down?)

alpine riding for me encompasses everything natural that you are likely to encounter when on a mountain. that includes slow techy, almost trialsy sections, to nice flowy, swoopy trails.

i like riding.


 
Posted : 10/06/2011 10:54 pm
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"Alpine riding" is the best description, without a doubt. Yesterday two riders from N Italy, used to the Alps, exclaimed, "Wow, this is just like the Alps or the Dolomites, we didn't realise Sardinia had mountains like these!" as we rode to the highest point of the island, the 1834m Punta La Marmora
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The photo on top was taken by two Austrian walkers, and we pointed out to them the island's many other mountain features you can see from there where we walk (they had the Rother guide we'd contributed to) and mountain bike. This was my last ride for the guide we're writing to MTB Sardinia, and so I was very happy that it was such a nice day up there, even if a bit chilly!


 
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