[Closed] BB92 Bottom Bracket

So you want a shop to do work for you, but don't want to pay their price for said part, expertise & workshop facilities, yet you're not sure what you actually need?
BUT in answer to your question, no that won't fit.

I will need to get a shop to do the replacement as I don't have the tools myself. Need a bit of a hand finding the right bottom bracket for the job. All the local shops seem pretty set on charging me the earth for parts so I'm wanting to buy the parts online!

Tourist rates at the till for your labour charges then.

All the local shops seem pretty set on charging me the earth for parts so I'm wanting to buy the parts online!

Well it will quite possible get fitted for free if you ask nicely as oppose to having to pay them to install your online purchase.

EDIT - hang on, the one you linked to saves you 3 quid and shrapnel over RRP. A shop will charge far more than 3 quid for installing it!

What would you say is a legitimate amount to charge for a bottom bracket replacement then? Parts and labour.

What would you say is a legitimate amount to charge for a bottom bracket replacement then? Parts and labour.

£20 + the price of the bb

I don't have much choice for shops round here. No one is fitting anything for free with £20 being the cheapest offer I have had for labour. Been quoted up to £50 for the part so not sure what you expect of me!

Looks like it's the right BB at a cursory glance. They're not difficult to replace. What are your spannering skill like?

You appear to have 3 choices

1. Pay the shop to supply and fit the correct bb
2. Find someone to correctly identify the bb required, buy the part on the internet, pay a shop to fit it.
3. Find someone to correctly identify the bb required, buy the part on the internet, buy the tools needed to fit the part and learn how to fit it.

Option 1 appears to be the easiest (and is £50 really a lot when you're riding a £4k bike?)
Option 2 on paper seems like a good idea but if you end up with the wrong bb then you're back to square one.
Option 3 is potentially the most expensive and time consuming one but you'll end up with the tools & knowledge to do the job yourself in future which you'll probably have to do quite frequently as pressfit bbs are the work of the devil.

When I lived back in Edinburgh I had a very good LBS that I would've handed my bike into in a heartbeat. Often they wouldn't be able to compete with online part costs, but they were always very reasonable on the labour costs. So of course I didn't mind.

Since I have moved there is no where like it and everyone charges stupid money for every little thing! I don't mind paying a little extra to an LBS if I don't feel like they are doing me over in the first place.

Option 1: As I have said, would be more than happy to do this if I didn't feel I was getting a bad deal. Yes I have an expensive bike, thats because I spent all my money on it and don't have loads to spare as a result.
Option 2: Seemed like a good idea at the time but apparently it's not
Option 3: With the prices I'm being quoted I'm probably going to go down this route.

That bb will fit your frame but you will have to trim some of the plastic off with a hacksaw, due to the design of the frame. Removing the old one is easy with a mallet and bit of wood ( can buy specific drifts from park tool or similar )
For the fitting you can buy the special tools to fit or use some all thread, couple of nuts and large washers , less than £6 from your local hardware store. ( also works on headsets ) I have used home made and hope tool on that BB ( Meta AM )
Your are pressing plastic into aluminium so no issues 10 minute job once you've done it before.
Just in case you were looking the hope press fit bb, won't fit, only in the 2015 frame.

You mean to say that not all bike shops fit parts you buy from them for free?

My LBS are fitting my new Hope PF41 BB for free and gave me 10% off RRP.

Just saying like 😀

You mean to say that not all bike shops fit parts you buy from them for free?

My LBS are fitting my new Hope PF41 BB for free and gave me 10% off RRP.

Just saying like

LOL 😆

Could anyone tell me if this one will work?

If you're changing your crank for a SRAM GXP at the same time then yes... Otherwise, no it won't.

When I lived back in Edinburgh I had a very good LBS that I would've handed my bike into in a heartbeat. Often they wouldn't be able to compete with online part costs, but they were always very reasonable on the labour costs. So of course I didn't mind.

Where are you based? Sounds like you're getting some shitty service!

RRP For a Shimano BB71 to fit is £29.99. If you were a regular in my shop I'd give you 10% discount anyway, making it £26.99. OK, so you can get it for £19.99 from CRC, but that's not fitted... To take your crank off, whack out a BB92 BB, clean and grease the shell, and press a new BB in, is 10-15 minutes work. We charge £30 an hour so you'd be paying between £5 and £10 in labour to get the part fitted.

In my experience though, cheap Press Fit BB's just aren't worth the bother, they never last very long anyway. Far better in the long run, to invest in a Hope PF41 BB for £90 (remember, most LBS will give you 10% discount if you're a good customer!) as they last a hell of a lot longer, but also, the bearings are replaceable separately should the time come.

Oh, and was for the tools... You can get an old BB92 out with a Big Screwdriver and a hammer. It destroys the BB, but then it was going in the bin anyway. That said, the Park BB92 removal tool (looks like a very small headset cup removal tool) is sooooo much quicker! And to get the new BB in, you need some kind of press. Some people bodge it with a length of threaded Bar and some big washers, but a decent Press Fit BB Press is maybe £20 or so anyway.

Your scenario highlights 2 things wrong with the Bike Industry these days, that stagger me on a daily basis. Firstly, there really are some shockingly bad shops out there, with little or no knowledge of what they're selling or how to fix a bike, and a keen-ness to rip the customer off (thankfully we're not all like that). The other thing is JUST HOW MANY customers think it's perfectly acceptable to buy something online, then waltz into their LBS, expect them to fit it for pennies or free, then complain when they felt the "service" wasn't good enough!

Form a relationship with a good LBS... Not only will they look after you, you'll save money, get preferential prices and service, and you'll find the kettle is usually on...

That's great, thanks for that Blair. I will probably just try it myself. The bb shell is sealed anyway so it shouldn't need the plastic in between the cups. Did you say you had installed this bb before on a meta? Just wondering seeing as goldenwonder has said that this bb won't fit! Just want to make sure I get it right.

Thanks again.

Hi mboy,

Thanks for the information. The gxp bit was the part that was putting me off! Whats the difference if you don't mind me asking? What makes my cranks incompatible?

I totally understand the point everyone is making about using your lbs. Like I said, in Edinburgh I had that service and it was excellent. Wouldn't even need to look online because I always knew I was getting the right deal. That's because from day 1 the guys in the shop were out to help me.
I'm just not getting that now I've moved further north and I'm not sure why I should pay well over the odds just because they are a local bike shop. Its a far from ideal situation for myself to have to buy something online to be fitted at a shop, but they clearly aren't interested in building a relationship with me! Not sure why I should pay extra for work until I get their attention, like some sort of membership fee. I am all for supporting the lbs, but if they are trying to rip me off then I honestly can't see why I should be giving them my money.

Thanks for the information. The gxp bit was the part that was putting me off! Whats the difference if you don't mind me asking? What makes my cranks incompatible?

GXP (Giga X Pipe) is a SRAM only BB. It has different sized bearings on each side, whereas you need a standard 24mm BB - IE one with 24mm bearings on both sides (like a shimano).

Assuming its the same as all the other meta frames of that design, a hope bb won't fit in that frame. There's only room for the very outer bit that the bearings sit in- the bb tube is kinked in the centre to allow the swingarm to move low.

You can modify a standard bb71 with a hacksaw or find one without the inner bits. This is a little bit frustrating!

That said, they are easy enough to fit and mine has lasted a lot longer than I expected so far. Superstar do a bearing press for bb92

Why don't you say roughly where you're based and see if anyone can suggest a decent shop?

I think the op's problem is that his lbs aren't offering the option of a £25/30 BB but only seem to be able to offer a £50 item.

Sounds like you could use a Wheels Mfg one - perhaps with a bit of modding required?
http://www.sprocketscycles.com/bb86-92-press-fit-bottom-bracket#.VQvctro_k3Q

Sometimes the £50 are worth the initial investment though. Quieter, more durable and in the case of the above, replaceable bearings.

I think the op's problem is that his lbs aren't offering the option of a £25/30 BB but only seem to be able to offer a £50 item.

I have fitted 2 off the sram and a shimano one for a different crankset http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/shimano-dura-ace-hollowtech-ii-press-fit-bottom-bracket-cups-sm-bb92-41b-87651

Just so long as the od of the plastic is 41mm it will fit your frame, just saw off the excess plastic, lightly grease the frame etc. Be careful because there is a 42mm variety.

Race face do one but not sure what the durability is like, can't be any worse than the shimano or sram ones. There are other brands / bearings out there that might be worth a go. I wanted to put a hope one in but it would have meant getting the aluminium machined to suit. So kept the hope one and bought a new frame !!!!!!( Meta v4)