Smudge and I have obtained a bastid clone of the dx bastid but with XML led on board and it is pretty darn OK .
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DX bastid P7
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Clone Bastid XML
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Which reflector is that in the second pic Chris?
Is there a different choice or just the one?
Heyup Mark hows it going .
got a lakes trip sorted with the Germans if you are interested.
July 23 for a week
no idea on the reflector but it is not a bodged P7 job as fits the xml perfectly .
I take it, that isn't the one on the [url= http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mj-808e-ha-iii-cree-xm-lt60-3-mode-1000-lumen-led-bike-light-set-4x18650-57100 ]Dealextreme[/url] site?
Are they available to buy anywhere? Or is this a sample Smudge managed to get hold of?
No its slightly different to the DX one
seems to be some competition over there with folks ripping off the design 😀
quality wise they seem not bad and certainly outshine the old P7 bastid by a good margin .
Is it for sale or where can I get one?
ooo they look good, any info on where to get one from?
Yes Zippy, its the same one that I have.
We have taken the battery and light apart to assess the quality and with a few recomendations to the build I am arranging for us to become their UK stockist.
Any feedback is good at this point.
But its going to be a competitive market this year especially with dealextreme but we'll compete with them the best we can.
Smudge
I found these but can't do iPhone link so here a picture, might ba a different light though?
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Only found it because I want to upgrade the led in my old light.
lipseal,
Linked it for you [url= http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=11226 ]here[/url]
The pics on there show a differntly machined housing but the reflector and emitter look similar to the XML based clone above.
Looks like there's competition in the market now.
The packaging is (perhaps not surprisingly) very similar <EDIT> to the original Bastid </EDIT>!
How come the XML is 1000lumen and the P7 900 lumen and the second shot looks a lot more than 10% brighter?
Is this new light made with much better bits?
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The DX XML light is 1000lumen, the one linked above is 1200lumen. Still that's a lot more than 30% brighter.
That linky is only £42! Even if that only gices you say a true 900 lumens thats a bargain.
"How come the XML is 1000lumen and the P7 900 lumen and the second shot looks a lot more than 10% brighter?"
From all the reviews including Trout's the P7 one was never 900 lumens, more like 600-700...
So by that logic is this new one actualy 1200lumen?
Has anyone looked to see if you can just buy the lamp?
They are all talking out of their arses
the DX bastid and other P7 lamps say 900 lumens but we know cos they have been lab measured to be approx 550 lumens .
the P7 manufacturers rating is 900 lumens at its full drive current and if it could be kept cold so they are quoting the theretical max lumens .
same goes for the xml rated @ 1000 lumens at 3 amp drive if kept below 25 degrees c
the 1200 lumen claims are fairy tales but will suck in some punters .
I have measured the drive current for this XML light and it was 2700 ma so not a bad effort on the makers
it will be going off to Chris the lumen testing guy for a shakedown in his lab when I find his email again so we will know the true lumen count .
as Smudge has said we may be selling our souls to the devil and shipping some in but only if we are both happy with the quality and the fact we can provide a good aftersales service if any go tits up .
yes just the light heads will be available for those wanting to upgrade
Chris / Smudge,
Just so happens that took mate out for first night ride last night and he now wants his own light.
If it's a light unit and Smudge battery/charger combo then I'll have one on his behalf - on the assumption that we ain't talking silly money here.
Chris - don't suppose you have a triple 35mm xm-l and optic spare?
Chris when is the LL Mk3 due out, I feel the need for more light