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27.5x2.6 fits nicely and I like the ride on spesh purgatory tyres. 2.8 presumably would fit but would not fit a normal 27.5 fork, also bear in mind the 2.8s are thin light tyres mine are 1kg each so much beafier to suit the bike.


 
Posted : 18/11/2017 9:05 pm
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Please can anyone running a 2017 size medium frame please tell me if a 420mm reverb can be fully inserted into the frame?

Thanks!


 
Posted : 06/12/2017 6:48 pm
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I have a 480mm Reverb on a 2014 medium, which has a 430mm seat tube. It's about 40mm out and I think it could go about 10mm lower - the limitation is the stealth port location (connectamajig already removed).


 
Posted : 06/12/2017 7:33 pm
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Thanks chief. I've actually messaged you about something else too.


 
Posted : 06/12/2017 8:55 pm
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Oh yes! I'd ask for pics of the shock stanchion. I don't think it's a common problem but it shows up in shock wear.


 
Posted : 06/12/2017 10:21 pm
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chiefgrooveguru I had the same problem with stanchions scoring and loosing air after around 6 months.

Mine was a warranty job, one of the forward shock mounts was misalgined. New frame a couple of weeks after.


 
Posted : 06/12/2017 11:24 pm
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chiefgrooveguru I had the same problem with stanchions scoring and loosing air after around 6 months.

I haven't had that problem but I've heard of it a few times and when my DBair was recently serviced TFTuned commented that that part needed replacing, not due to misalignment but just the sheer amount of use it's had (the wear was even all around the stanchion). And said they sometimes see them with uneven premature wear because of how the stiff back end will side load a shock if the frame is misaligned.


 
Posted : 07/12/2017 10:26 am
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The InLine on my original 2015 Spitfire wore significantly on one side of the stanchioon, and also affected the innards. TFT sorted the shock under warranty and Ison replaced the frame under warranty. No issues so far on the 2016 frame and CCDB AirCS I now have.

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Posted : 07/12/2017 11:17 am
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Just in case anyone wants one of these, I'm selling my 2015 large frame - [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/for-sale-%E2%80%93-clearout-inc-frame-forks-wheels-and-lots-more?replies=1#post-8894564 ]here[/url]


 
Posted : 07/12/2017 1:48 pm
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Just thinking ahead, when do Banshee bring out their 2018 frames? Had a look at the importer website and some the linked dealer websites don't have much info at all on the bikes - is this because the supplying dealer network is out of date, or they are just out of frames till next year?


 
Posted : 07/12/2017 7:49 pm
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Just thinking ahead, when do Banshee bring out their 2018 frames?

I know they've stopped doing annual updates, choosing only to update/replace models when there's a reason to. I don't know if that means they've stopped changing the colours each model year, or if model years is gone for good.


 
Posted : 07/12/2017 8:30 pm
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I spent a fair amount of time looking into Banshee as my research on the '17 prime that I've since bought.

It seems that they basically serve Canada and North America and if we're lucky we get the overspill. Therefore a minority brand in the UK market.

2017 was a pretty substantial year of revisions, so it might be that there's little difference in the 2018 models.


 
Posted : 07/12/2017 8:42 pm
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I've just put my XL 2016 Spitfire up for sale if anyone is looking -  https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/banshee-spitfire-xl-2/


 
Posted : 27/02/2018 12:32 pm
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Well looked after Large frame for sale here:  


 
Posted : 27/02/2018 1:02 pm
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I just swapped my Monarch for a CC coil. Not sure if I had the right tune Monarch, it was off a Bronson. Rides a lot better so far.


 
Posted : 29/03/2018 12:16 pm
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Looks mint with a coil.


 
Posted : 29/03/2018 1:22 pm
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Thread has gone very quiet!  I haven't been on much and haven't done much MTB recently.  Still would be tempted to replace my frame with one in that colour ^^^

They haven't really delivered the changes that would suit me personally though -a bottle cage mount on the XL, No ISCG mount, DBIL shock.


 
Posted : 21/04/2018 6:20 pm
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It is quiet.  This might liven it up 🙁

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Posted : 21/04/2018 10:53 pm
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Offt


 
Posted : 21/04/2018 11:09 pm
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Ooh F.


 
Posted : 21/04/2018 11:11 pm
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Fortunately, I didn't die.


 
Posted : 21/04/2018 11:18 pm
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Well that looks more than a bit irritating! Do you have a good tale of an epic case, huck or crash, or was it just a disappointing collapse?

Mine is still going strong, liking it more than ever. Don’t die, trusty Spitfire!


 
Posted : 22/04/2018 12:43 am
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Wow 😱


 
Posted : 22/04/2018 9:25 am
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Tuesday night, Hamsterley.  Section 13 - first of the two bomb-hole-type-things near the end.  I think the weld at the brace (a well known weak point from what I've see on here and MTBR threads) failed on compression at the bottom, then the rest of the down tube sheared off after compression getting over the top.  I suspected something happened as there was quite a loud 'crack'.

Obviously, the down tube sheared, the top tube folded, the head-angle went to a Geometron-shaming 45 degrees, and the chain ring dug into the ground stopping the bike immediately.  I carried on over the bars and went OTB to the right, landing on my hip (slight bruising) and my elbow (Race Face D30 pads are quite useful).

I then had a 2 mile push back to the cheeky layby where I parked (not to dodge the parking fees, though.  I have a volunteer pass) with the pedals clashing off what seemed like every small rock.

Thing is, I wasn't really going that fast or 'sending it' over all the jumps and drops.  I was actually feeling a bit 'Meh' at the time.  Thinking about where it happened, I guess I'm quite lucky it was where it was.  Higher up the trail or somewhere like Pike's Teeth and it could have been a ride to hospital.

Might not be too clear from the photo, but the sheared edges have two different surfaces.  The top at the edge of the brace weld is relatively smooth, and the rest of the circumference looks as though the tube has been pulled apart.

Replacement will be the issue - although this frame is <2 years old, it was a warranty replacement for the original frame in 2015.  Hopefully Ison will be able to help out.

TL;DR I was just riding along, really.


 
Posted : 22/04/2018 10:07 am
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“I think the weld at the brace (a well known weak point from what I’ve see on here and MTBR threads) failed“

I wonder if it’s what one of those cases where adding a gusset either adds a stress concentration or the heat from the weld decreases strength? It’s gone on the new ones with the hydroformed downtube.


 
Posted : 22/04/2018 6:12 pm
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Good luck with the warranty claim - they’re not obliged to do anything, so fingers crossed!


 
Posted : 22/04/2018 6:15 pm
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Aye - the V2.5(?) has that brace omitted, probably as it was a stress riser.  I was keeping an eye on it - at least if it was going to crack I would have a chance of spotting it beforehand, alas it wasn't to be.

At least I have this for now:

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Posted : 22/04/2018 6:39 pm
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That's a nasty break, I hadn't thought about the risk of that kind of loading.  Glad you are mostly okay!  May get offered a crash replacement price?


 
Posted : 23/04/2018 10:38 pm
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Is it not a straightforward lifetime crash warranty claim?


 
Posted : 23/04/2018 11:10 pm
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Not quite straightforward enough.  Original frame bought Feb 15, replaced under warranty Jun 16, therefore warranty expired Feb 17.

Also, shop closed down.  I'll be getting in touch with Ison this week hopefully.


 
Posted : 23/04/2018 11:15 pm
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Ouch! I hope Banshee sort you out. I think they do a crash replacement policy for out of warranty frames?

Will be checking mine thoroughly tonight!


 
Posted : 24/04/2018 12:17 pm
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I bought my '15 Banshee second hand 18 months ago and have been loving it.  After a winter of minimal use I decided to give it a little TLC.

I bought a new set of Halo Vapour 35s and some Onza tyres and gave it a thorough once over.  I know skinwalls are a bit marmite but I am loving them against the stealth frame.

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Posted : 26/04/2018 9:27 pm
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I wonder if it's worth removing the brace completely, especially on older raw frames.


 
Posted : 27/04/2018 7:26 am
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I'll give it a try on mine.

Oh, wait...


 
Posted : 27/04/2018 9:44 am
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Attacked it with the angle grinder so I'll soon find out! Cut off all the excess cable guides and chain device mount as well just to tidy it up a bit.


 
Posted : 27/05/2018 2:27 pm
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Not quite straightforward enough.  Original frame bought Feb 15, replaced under warranty Jun 16, therefore warranty expired Feb 17.

Also, shop closed down.  I’ll be getting in touch with Ison this week hopefully.

If that route fails and you bought on credit card then you'd have recourse under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act. You would need to get an engineer report agreeing there was a manufacturer or design fault though.

You could also argue that you're still within the warranty of the warranty replacement frame,  if someone bought that new it would expire next month

Are you sure the warranty isn't  actually until Jun 18?


 
Posted : 27/05/2018 2:53 pm
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Just bought a secondhand current model Spitfire to replace my 2014 version. I’ve gone up to a large from a medium (I’m 5’11), and initially I’m going to ride it with the standard headset and see how that feels. Otherwise swapping everything straight across with a shim for the Reverb and Boost adaptor for the rear hub.


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 10:24 am
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Another one down.... discovered a crack on the seat tube brace weld on my XL raw frame. I really love this bike but there seems to be a lot of failures.


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 12:48 pm
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Ive changed from large to xl 2016 version, kept the 1.5 slackset in but had to swap the 170mm dropper to a 150mm. Im 6ft in my socks.


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 12:52 pm
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Another one down…. discovered a crack on the seat tube brace weld on my XL raw frame. I really love this bike but there seems to be a lot of failures.

What year is your frame? Newer hydro-formed tubes or the older version?


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 1:30 pm
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2013-14 I think, older version without stealth dropper port. Any ideas of what else is like a spitfire?


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 1:35 pm
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New Spitfire.

They've got rid of the welded on braces where all the cracks seem to occur.


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 1:44 pm
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Wish I could! The frames are a little too expensive new.


 
Posted : 28/06/2018 1:56 pm
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Even being offered 50% off as crash replacement they are still too expensive with only a 2 year warranty.


 
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