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Yesterday a mate and I were out over the moors, sat by the trail side enjoying a bite ,breather and sunshine. Along comes a Redsock, stops for a friendly chat and as he leaves comments "Those take over a year to rot down you know " motioning to two banana skins and strides off. We looked at each other flabbergasted . Now I was always taught to take litter home but that strategically placed ie; out of sight /harms way , banana skins ,apple cores orange peel and the like contributed to the soil and minerals plus a bit of snap for foraging insects and birds etc. Now we all know a banana skin is brown and rotting in a few hours , so I wondered what other people do/think about this , pointless thread I know but I'm sick of arguing about Di and it's pissing down here.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:56 am
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I have read the same and carry mine out.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:58 am
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oh TJ loves this subject too ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:01 am
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Banana skins rot pretty fast in anywhere hot enough for them to grow, but over here they take ages. Not sure about orange peel... Apples cores are fine because something wild will eat them and they rot much faster. I'd take skins/peel home with you.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:02 am
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Banana skins can and do take a long time to rot down. take it in. take it out.

Of course ben nevis is a extreme example but there are othe rexamples of this.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/banana_skins_ruining_ben_nevis_claim_environmentalists_1_471099


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:04 am
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Interestingly as we finished up a sheep came by , obviously used to scavenging from lunching passers by, and ATE the banana skins ! A farmer near here is feeding his cows on reject supermarket bananas - thats where I get mine - they are fine .


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:08 am
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I fail to see the "damage" or "ruin" a rotting banana skin causes. It doesnt pollute or injure anyhting. Sticks take a while to rot away too..

I don't like bananas anyway so I'm not guilty of this but I chuck apple cores away.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:13 am
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Carry it in, carry it out.

The skins can hang around for a couple of years - despite what you say about it being all warm and fuzzy helping the animals/insects.

Tell me where your garden is so I can leave all my banana skins there.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:15 am
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Bananas stink up your camelbak badly particularly when squashed.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:20 am
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Take anything home that wouldn't be native to the natural environment you're in.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:23 am
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Point taken, will keep it clean.
Just a thought though -does it matter if something takes 2 years to rot may be it's more benificial that way? Appreciate that bananas are not native and a bit unsightly but hey yeah chunky my wife can't get enough compost for her garden so bring it here . In another vein , all the Nimby s near here who are 'right on' greenies, were up in arms about the proposal for a green waste composting site 1/2 mile away , talk about hipocrisy!


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:24 am
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Bananas stink up your camelbak badly particularly when squashed

Yeah funny how quickly they rot in there.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:26 am
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Introducing a 'foreign' food source can damage the local environment and can have a massive effect on the food chain and the native species that live within it.

Its basic ecology


 
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Take anything home that is not native to the environment you're in. Like your wee - keep that in a bottle, oh, and sweep up your tyre tracks, they are very damaging to the environment and look awful too.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:29 am
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I treat them like dead bodies - bury them.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:34 am
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I hang them back onto the trees.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:36 am
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I smoke them..


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:37 am
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It's true, bananas take ages to rot. You can see this by observing how long they last in a fruit bowl.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:37 am
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I'd think that if banana skins were a part of the natural environment of the place, then how long they would take to rot would be irrelevant, as the location is already optimised for dealing with them.

My POV on taking them home is that pure wild environments are precious and rare, it's good to leave them be as much as reasonably possible. A tiny bit of contamination is still contamination.

I was reading about Scottish Wildcats recently, there are less than 400 pure-breeds left. The biggest threat is not environment but interbreeding with ferals/domestics. Every time that happens all descendants of that litter, even if raised wild by a Wildcat mother, are not Wildcats and that bloodline is lost forever and they compete with the pure-breeds too.


 
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Are you not supposed to eat the skin bit too then? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:41 am
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My compost bin must be a biohazard, a dozen a week go in there.


 
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I was reading about Scottish Wildcats recently, there are less than 400 pure-breeds left. The biggest threat is not environment but interbreeding

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lol did you make that or have it ready just for the Wildcat offshoot of a future banana skin thread?


 
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I blame this guy.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:07 pm
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I'm in the 'take it in - take it out' camp. I put the banana in a little food bag. Saves a squishy skin messing up your camelbak.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:17 pm
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How do we stand on dog turds in bags hanging from trees?


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:17 pm
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With a pair of step ladders.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:21 pm
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I thought this was gonna be another trail sabotage thread!


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:43 pm
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Introducing a 'foreign' food source can damage the local environment and can have a massive effect on the food chain and the native species that live within it.

Which is why all imported food gone to waste is shipped back to country of origin. We have no non native breeds in this country and all migrating birds are forbidden to land.


 
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This country is more racist than I realised.


 
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๐Ÿ™‚ at mudshark


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 12:57 pm
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I leave my skins under a rock or somewhere covered over, not too sure why, I think I might start taking them out with me.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:25 pm
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Why hasn't any body mentioned the obvious,the trails are slippy enough at the moment without all you nana munchers adding another hazard,take the slippery little buggers home!!


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:38 pm
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I put the banana in a little food bag

I wonder which is more environmentally damaging, a banana skin in a bush or a banana skin rotting inside a poly bag in landfill..


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:39 pm
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At the very least they look out of place. If you are going to dump them at least try to do it discreetly


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:40 pm
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20 odd years of riding in the same area and I always bury a skin/core/turd in the woods off the trail. I do carry out( not turds they go under a rock far from the path plus use the rock bum wipe system) on open exposed hills. Not noticed any catastrophic environmental changes. If anyone can convince me that this is really harmful I will stop with immediate effect.


 
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Toys - the best would be banana skins composted in controlled conditions.

Tang - one skin makes no significant difference. Thousands in areas where rotting is slow does. NO huge harm but it is unsightly and I have seen multiple banana skins in popular areas


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:44 pm
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Apple cores is an intersting debate - one old railway line I know of has a fair few mature apple tress growing alongside it - presumably grown from discarded cores. Is that a bad thing?


 
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If anyone can convince me that this is really harmful I will stop with immediate effect.

I think wiping your bum with rocks is potentially harmful but who am I to argue with somebody with 20 years experience.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:48 pm
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Toys: the skin goes in with the food rubbish, the bag in the plastic recycle box. Good enough?


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 1:51 pm
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I take mine home too, they're quite waxy and do seem to stick around ages.


 
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@Tang, measurable harm is not the only issue: it's as much a philosophy. Tread as lightly as reasonably possible, and leave the place as close as one can to the state it was found (or better, as it should be).

Note 'as reasonably possible', I'm not advocating SAS style pooh bagging.


 
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Tiz biodegradable, if unsightly. I'm not worrying about chucking nana skins over the hedge out of sight. I'm just feeding small mammals and enriching the soil. Don't be so fretful!


 
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NO huge harm but it is unsightly and I have seen multiple banana skins in popular areas

So this is actually the limit of it, no huge harm and a bit unsightly. What a waste of environmental effort, they are not environmentally damaging in any way, it's just a red herring. I reckon all the petrol and resourced hogged by rich middle class types getting to and from the lake district pales into insignificance compared to "multiple" banana skins, how ironic. It's a load of hypocritcal, pick 'n' mix morals.

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Toys: the skin goes in with the food rubbish, the bag in the plastic recycle box. Good enough?

Fine, but what about if you didn't use the bag in the first place? Surely that would be better? You could stick it in your tupperware instead, at least that get reused?


 
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