[Closed] Bad stack at Lee Quarry today.

Any one know who crashed and where? I'm keen to keep track of where people are crashing so that I can have a good look at the spot and to try and figure out whats going wrong and see if anything needs changing. Some times it just happens but I always want to try and make sure the trail is not at fault. Difficult with such a wide range of riders and abilities using the site to keep everyone safe.

Who ever did crash if you are reading this hope you heal soon.

Got some more money to spend on trails in the quarry so any ideas as to what new features you would like to see up there? (can't promise we will build them but if you don't ask!)

what new features you would like to see up there?

a huge windbreak maybe??

too many people breaking wind up there already thats half the problem

(You might have more response in a separate thread TonyL)
Can't think of much that's not a direct copy from some other trail centre tbh - maybe some flowy mounds on the 1st 'flat' section leading to the berms... or putting some showers in 🙂 The quarry's great, good luck with it.
& get well soon the unfortunate rider, hope your pride isn't too dented.

Someone pass him Ed-O's email addy... 😉

Showers? We put those logs in over the pond instead!

flatten beacup 😉 lee quarryssurroundings are fugly

Don't know who the bloke was and i didn't see him crash but his mate told me it was on one of the black sections down in the centre of the quarry.

I did well today, managed to teach my newbie g/f to ride the second section of berms and roller-coaster section into the skills area 🙂
Plus, i've just been told my bike coaching courses have been approved (council funding) so i'm going to train for a bike teaching job!

Got some more money to spend on trails in the quarry so any ideas as to what new features you would like to see up there? (can't promise we will build them but if you don't ask!)

Some no entry signs would be nice, coming round the top rocky section only to have someone walking their dog the other way could get boring quick.

And a chair lift for that hill please 😀

A purpose built link to Cragg Quarry, red graded trail in there and then back to Lee.

Hello muddydwarf I saw u just as my son and I were setting off.Sorry i didn,t realise how badly that chap in the van was injured. Get well soon. Bye the way TONY L are you ex supermoto who used to hang out at D.C.R,s ?

TonyL.....sad fact of life is that the more "features" you build into your trail centre the more injuries you will incur.

Helped out with a guy today at Mabie who fancied a go on the "skills" loop. Crashed, broken arm and possibly ribs. Ambulance, A&E and a probable visit to theatre likely.

There is always going to be someone "challenging" themselves and riding outwith their ability.

All you can do as the 7Stanes sites do is have done a proper risk assessment of all your trails and features. If you would like to standardise your risk assessments get in touch with Andy Hopkins, 7Stanes trail person

anyone up their this sunday?

TonyL, I would like to see a (left hand) drop to a berm off the last third of the Black route into the quarry, which has a table top when you hit the flat, or maybe even a set of them (as your prize for being brave). I'm on about the tech, rocky section, about 20 meters before the steep to log or right hand option.

My other suggestion is about the final run in, before you cross the road. It would be sweet if all three sections had jumps paralleling the singletrack, with an 'expert' lip on one side of the table top. I see a lot of bigger bikes at Lee Quarry, because it is a shortish track, and I think these could be your future audience.

Thanks for making it a cool playground anyway!

+1 for linking up with Cragg Quarry, I didn't realise how much was already available at Cragg Quarry until Lowey and Graham showed me around up there. All that's misisng is a link between the two quarries and maybe a bit of tidying up in Cragg Quarry. Would certainly counter the criticism that Lee Quarry is good but not worth a journey. Not everyone rides super technical black stuff (although I would concede Lee Quarry is actually more suited than most trail centres for this type of riding).

wors - Member

a huge windbreak maybe??

Genius 😆

is this Cragg quarry - http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?X=385015&Y=418640&A=Y&Z=120&lm=1

not really but its in the area crag is the one that the pennine bridleway runs trough the bottom of the fun bits are on both sides of pbw
Its different in nature to lee but can be good fun if you know it g
email me if you want showing round g

email me if you want to watch me fall off a lot.

😆

The fabled link from Rooley Moor Road? Still happening?

hopefully TonyL is the man to ask but if it happens lets hope its soon and done in such a way that the crossers wont shread it in days g

I do hope so, i rode up Rooley Moor on Saturday to Lee Quarry then did a couple of loops around the place before heading home along the road through Whitworth. A proper link to Rooley Moor that doesn't include that god-awful climb from the PBW would be greatly appreciated 😆

that climb is ace!

what climb from the pbw? its downhill thro the bogfest to lee from rooley moor rd g

slurp!

Build a pump track (or two, or sections that are purely pump-track-esque).

Cheap, inclusive, low risk, fun for all ages, skill improving and fitness challenging.

Oh, and they're the key to world peace 😉

2p

back to op - any idea where and when he did it?
was in there early doors and there was only one other person who left at same time as me, really quiet
muddy dwarf no a&e at hassy nearest is blackburn or rochdale if its still there g

I didn't see him do it.
My g/f and i were at the start of the 2nd berm section on the red run when they passed us. We had a chat and then they were off.
We did a little tuition on the berms and the skills area, then she rode back down the green to the gate whilst i shot round the red for a last time.
When i got to the gate he was walking very slowly down the hill in obvious pain and his mate had brought the transit van up to collect him.
I told them the nearest A+E dept. was in Haslingden but they were adamant they were going to drive back to Bradford and obtain treatment there.

All i know is that the accident happened on one of the black sections going down into the quarry bottom and that - as the victim stated - it was a pretty fast section 'cos the bike hit him in the back of the head as he smashed into the ground 🙁

justme - the climb UP the PBW from Rossendale to the top of Rooley Moor was the one i meant. It's a real pig when you have been out for a few hours and live at the bottom of Rooley Moor Rd on the other side of the hill!
The 10 mile diversion via Whitworth is actually less energy sapping than climbing/pushing up that damned hill - i can ride it in sections but i've never yet managed to ride it all in one go!

As for the A+E i was going off the notice at the top of the quarry that said (if i recall correctly) the nearest was in Haslingden.

Pritty simple TonyL

1, People are not padding up or using Body Armour nore the Correct
Helmets.
2, People not having the experiance or confidence

3, People not having the correct bike.

4, People buying bikes that are faster than there confidence

You see the idiots in the crash section of magazines showing
there wounds And then collecting free arm and leg pads.

people just have to make them selves aware what they are riding in/on
Rocks, Slate steep decents and large roots.

Get the right bike build confidence and get armour and the correct
Helmet. For the above terrain if a standard full face to much buy the

Specalized Deviant its lighter full face but protects all the face
This may peeve people of but feed up of sorting you guys out on the trails.

Also for your saftey have some walkie talkies and a First Aid kit and a
heat reflective blanket and the saftey Whistle!!!!

Sorry guys rather see smiles than breaks cuts and bruises

that needs checking cos theres no hospital in haslingden
wheres the notice? and i'll look next time i'm there TonyL needs to know if theres wrong info posted g

There is a notice near the start of the red run at the top of the quarry with emergency info on it - i'm pretty sure it says the nearest A+E is at Haslingden hence my words to the victim.
I could be wrong however but i suppose it does need checking out.

As for the armour post above, i do wonder why so many ride in a quarry full of sharp rocks and hard stuff then not wear a few pads?

I always wear arm pads at least when riding that sort of stuff.

md if the climb you mean is the steep one up past the scrap yard and over it can be avoided by popping out of the quarry at the very top of fairview (the very highest point)and ride/push over the moors to rooley or if you want to get to the road you can leave the quarry on the obvious trail on your left at the top of the initial climb and either drop to shawforth by going left aat the end of it or if you turn right at the end it takes you to whitworth quarry then drop down past cwm res and onto the railway line and right to heally dell then up to the hamlet and the rdale end of rooley moor rd g

You don't need a trail 'feature' to be able to break yourself. Everything I've seen at Lee was awesome as it is BTW.

Whats a trail feature? Is that like a Fondue set at a dinner party?

I could hurt myself quite badly on the singletrack sections of the red run - especially the drops to the side near the rock garden!
It's actually more dangerous than we give it credit for and because it has been so well designed to 'flow' we can easily go too fast for our skills/reaction times around there.

Lee Quarry is just up the road from me but i hardly use it, once in the last 12 months. Its just to short, it needs a track accross to Rooley moor or some other way of linking it into the surrounding trails without having to cycle on footpaths.

peregrin if you dont use it funding will not become available to improve links to the other quarries, if its well used we all benefit and lets face it rossy needs all the money it can get
i do think its well designed around the edge tho as i have never felt i was about to go over the edge (can be a bum clencher in the wind) altho a few people have!!
the worse looking crash i have seen there was during one of the races just before the cattle grid a guy went over the bars and landed on his head on the bouldery drop on the bend - he road away tho g

justme - I know where you mean - yes that area is excellent.
- are you a rideOn wed night rider - as you refer to the link as 'bogfest'

The link to PBW - 'bogfest' is fine in all but the worst conditions, so it is ok for atleast 10% of the year.

We have been offered some money now, still a bit of sorting out to do with the match funding etc but it is looking promising.

Planning applications going in for link from Lee Quarry over to Rooley Moor Road and some purpose built trails in Cragg in the next few days.

List for Lee Quarry so far is a skills area with a pump track, sections to learn how to ride jumps, berms, drop offs safely and with progression. A new black graded section and a new section of red graded xc route. (hoping to get this all built this financial year. Oh and proper signage at last.

Link over the moors to be built next year (after bird breeding season) assuming we get planning permissions etc.

Moto X bikes there Sunday 🙁

The green emergency signs say nearest hospital,Haslingden road Blackburn,and to contact Lancashire county Council to report the accident.

The skills area sounds great with those additions

We are keen to keep Moto X bikes off there if you see them please report them to local police. If they have plates on please let me or the police have the numbers

Back to the guy who crashed, anyone know who or how?

Good work TonyL very positive

madbill no i dont ride with the rideon lot but i know a some of the lads quite well(mainly from the shop and round and about) that particular name came from leon and it stuck g

List for Lee Quarry so far is a skills area with a pump track, sections to learn how to ride jumps, berms, drop offs safely and with progression. A new black graded section and a new section of red graded xc route. (hoping to get this all built this financial year. Oh and proper signage at last.

Sounds great.
Given my recent experience on Tues I would urge you to have plenty of signage re contacting A&E near ALL danger/potential/recognised accident/incident spots. Visitors in particular may(do)not read signage at the start of a trail/skills area and then the inevitable poor info is relayed to the emergency services creating uneccessary delays 😕
I would suggest a big white board with the first aid green cross, local ambulance/A&E(need to consult) phone number and OS grid ref.

I presume you have provided plenty of "green/blue" beginners trails ❓
Something the 7Stanes in their exicitement ommitted in the early stages of it`s development plan. Partly due to the strong voices of us " experienced riders wanting more and more "difficult/challenging" trails.

Consider green/blue before extending black routes. The beginner is your future

List for Lee Quarry so far is a skills area with a pump track, sections to learn how to ride jumps, berms, drop offs safely and with progression. A new black graded section and a new section of red graded xc route. (hoping to get this all built this financial year. Oh and proper signage at last.

Fantastic news! Sounds brilliant.

I love Lee Quarry, LCC have done a great job with it, and more can only be a good thing!

We are adding to the skills areas but no blue or green trails for the quarry as its not really suited to that level of riding the exposed nature of the quarry and the climb up in to it put it beyond what we would be happy grading blue or green before we even start.

New signage will be coming soon we did have emergency contact information and location signs dotted around the quarry but the design was not up to the job and they keep breaking. New and improved designs to come soon!

Re flagged out and walked through some of the proposed new sections with Rowan today some great ideas are coming together for more big berms, drop offs and what should be an excellent technical rocky climb.

Tony.. would be well worth posting a separate thread to get feed back I think mate.

I will do, probably do a press release next week re the funding etc and ask for feedback etc as part of that.

I agree with the posts suggesting the link accross to cragg quarry , if we could end up with a decent sized loop that could potentially make the level of riding attraction that would draw people from other areas, raise the profile of the area and potentially bring money in .and it would be nice with some kind of cafe or even food wagon , which again could generate dosh

I must admit it is sounding rather good. If we can the link across to Cragg I'd use it more (and I'm only 10 mins from the Quarry now).

Tony,

Thanks for all your efforts building the tracks and good luck with the future plans. A link from Lee Quarry to Rooley Moor Road sound excellent and will make it possible to include the excellent man made tracks with longer rides on the moors.

Has thought been given to co-operating with the owners of the windfarm and United Utilities as well as Bury, Rochdale and Rossendale councils, to publish a MTB map of Scout Moor showing the various access points from each side, making use of the windfarm and United Utilities access roads. Could create an exciting and accessible amenity, but I'm sure there are many access and political issues between the parties, that would get in the way.

Anyway, just a thought, keep up the good work.

Cheers
Antony

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[i] We have been successful with our various funding bids and have over £500k to send on new mtb trails within the Rossendale area over the next 18months or so. The bulk of the funding £350K is coming from Aggregates Levy.

Planned at the moment for within Lee Quarry are

A new section of red graded xc singletrack with some black options/features this will be between 1km and 1.5km long depending on the final route used which will depend on what can be fitted in with the budget available.

New skills areas/sections which will include

The Drop line
150m long 3m wide will have three ability levels side by side enabling riders to learn how to ride drops of different sizes and difficulty.

The Berm Track
180m long 1m wide eleven consecutive berms (and nothing else!)

The Pump Track
120m long 0.7m wide pump line on a gradient

Black graded progressive skills line
250m long 1 to 2 m wide rock drops, table tops, rollers, berms all on the same track (i.e. putting everything learnt on the above three tracks in to practice)

Black graded expert line
250m long 1m wide similar to the line above but with even more challenges.

Pump track
Figure of eight pump track built on flat section start finish at the same point.

The above should all be finished by April/may this year. This means we will have quite a few extra features to use at the weekender event in July.

Also happening this year should be the work at Cragg Quarry, Rowan Sorrell has put the initial designs together for us and he says “Cragg Quarry deserves to be the jewel in the crown of the whole trail centre project. It has fantastic rolling shapes, ideal to adapt to mountain bikes and its location affords stunning views out over Rossendale and up into the Lakes on a clear day. The new wind farm located on the moor to the back of the quarry actually adds to the character of the ride and provides an interesting backdrop to the trail. The loop in Cragg Quarry will be a packed 4.5km with plenty of contoured bench cuts and sudden feature sections seamlessly linked together into one exciting ride. The trail climbs gently through the quarry just off the route of the Pennine Bridleway. This extra elevation gives riders great views and still throws in a few technical rock features en route, but it is on the return leg, with the overall gradient now working to the rider’s advantage, that the thrills are cranked up a notch. The trail flows, rolling, dipping and rising with berms along its route; it can be tackled gently or attacked head on, making for a physical, but ultimately very rewarding ride due to the views and great features found throughout the quarry site. There are old buildings, inclines and cart tracks all taken in along the route so the rider not only has a great ride but also really gets a feel for the heritage of this site. Rock gardens, rock rolls and slab paving are all incorporated into the trail to make the most of the natural resources and features on site.”

Next financial year we are planning on constructing a bridleway link from Lee Quarry up to Rooley Moor Road, a link over to Facit Quarry and then some mtb trails down through Facit Quarry. Once we have this lot in place that quick half day blast round Lee Quarry can be turned in to a full day out. The idea is to keep it technically challenging with plenty of red/black options.

We are also planning an off road link between Lee Quarry and Gisburn Forest any one fancy a quick lap round Lee Quarry.[/i]

Sweet 😀

That needs its own thread. Exciting stuff!!

Wow that sounds great! Still haven't been to Lee Quarry - must get over there sometime.

New plans sound awesome!

As for this:

1, People are not padding up or using Body Armour nore the Correct
Helmets.
2, People not having the experiance or confidence

3, People not having the correct bike.

4, People buying bikes that are faster than there confidence

Blimey...

1. You don't need to "pad up" to ride at Lee Quarry. Helmets should be compulsory but obviously that can't be policed. People not padding up aren't the reason for crashes though!

2. Experience and confidence. Lee Quarry is an excellent place to build confidence. OK, you shouldn't really be going there for your first off-road trip but the features it encompasses are excellent. Experience should prevent you from crashing (well, not as often) but you learn by mistakes. We ALL have...

3. People not having the correct bike. What is the correct bike for Lee Quarry? I've seen people on everything from CX bikes, SS XC stylee things, full on XC bikes to 8" travel downhill monsters. There are different parts of the quarry that are more suited to certain bikes. There isn't a wrong bike for Lee Quarry (except a CX bike but they're wrong anywhere!).

4. People buying bikes that are faster than their confidence. Rubbish. You're only as fast as your confidence - if you're not confident, an 8" travel bike isn't going to be much/any quicker than a fully rigid bike on the descents.