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[Closed] Arrrrrrgh.... Ive cut my steerer too short.. help please.

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Whatever option you pick, without a new fork, your bars will probably be too low, the bike not as comfortable as you would like and you ruing the day. What is the steerer length?

To make you feel better, I left nearly £300 of front wheels in the car park last week.


 
Posted : 24/04/2014 11:39 pm
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17mm will be totally fine.. 15mm will probably be ok.
I wont know until ive ridden it how it will work.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:13 am
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I bet with a bit of searching you could find that exact fork direct from Taiwan...


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 7:04 am
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I bet with a bit of searching you could find that exact fork direct from Taiwan...

Ebay or anyone know some Taiwanese sites to start looking through?

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 8:49 am
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I don't want to make things more complex but a lot of carbon forks specify that the whole of the stem has to be over the steerer tube and that a 5mm spacer has to be run above the stem too.

Not sure if this is true of yours, though.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 8:58 am
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I bought a custom titanium frameset from a USA builder, and he cut the steerer too short (by the height of the custom stem). To cut a long story short (no pun intended!) I ended up sending the forks to Mike Burrows, and he machined a ‘plug’ as mickmcd described above. It has the same external diameter as the steerer, and is stepped to be an interference fit when bonded into the steerer. It’s also threaded in place of a star fangled nut. It’s probably stronger than the original steerer. It also lets you specify the exact handlebar height you need.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:16 am
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Would that be possible with a carbon steerer, Deejayen?


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:17 am
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will be extra cautious when my tripster gets finalised this weekend.....


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:22 am
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Would that be possible with a carbon steerer, Deejayen?

Yep - just make sure you use the right adhesive, but in theory it should be stronger than the steerer itself


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:26 am
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Yep - just make sure you use the right adhesive, but in theory it should be stronger than the steerer itself

There you go, Cloudnine. Singletrackworld's resident Mad Carbon Professor, will sort it for you 😀

....seriously, sounds the best option. As at least this way, you won't have the handlebars down near your knees.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:31 am
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Bit of an eeek moment OP.. I'd get the plug machined as above, sounds like a good option and better suited to you needs rather than faff with a new fork..


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:33 am
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cloudnine - just thought.....

what size frame are you building?

Mines a 57cm and steerer will need a trim. If yours is a 60cm we may well be able to sort something.

just a thought!


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:37 am
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Cool... Who do I contact to do this?


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:42 am
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Mines a 57cm and steerer will need a trim. If yours is a 60cm we may well be able to sort something.

OP's is a 48cm.

Cool... Who do I contact to do this?

Someone like [url= http://forum.errl.org.uk/entry.php?356-Repairing-Carbon-Fibre-HQ-Fibre-Products ]HQ Fibre Products[/url]?

HQ Fibre Products
5 Norwich Road
Lingwood
Norwich
NR13 4BH
Norfolk
Tel: 01603 713972
Fax: 01603 713972

...or http://www.carboncyclerepairs.co.uk/index.html


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 9:44 am
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Really sympathise, hope you get it sorted.
I've been paranoid about doing that and probably have too many spacers!


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 11:27 am
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I've just ordered a new frame set and have a spare pair of forks that you could have for peanuts? Email in profile if interested.

Dave


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 11:53 am
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I posted my forks to Mike. They were from a recumbent, and I'm a member of the BHPC (British Human Powered Club) of which Mike is a leading light. However, I'm sure he'll help anyone out. He's manufactured trikes and bikes made from carbon tubes bonded to alloy castings, so he knows what he's doing. He sorted me out really quickly, too - I think I had the forks back a couple of days later. It's best to phone him first, and make sure he can do it, and ask him for a price (very reasonable) so you can send payment with the forks.

Burrows Engineering
4 Bunkell Road
Rackheath
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NR13 6PX
01603 721700


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:04 pm
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Was this the OUTLET price 48cm ATP Tripster??

Good price if so :O)

If only I was short.

(have a 57cm coke can tripster and love it)


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:14 pm
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I have a carbon (disc only) CX fork spare after my frame was warrantied. 3k matt finish and in very good condition as it only had three months use and not a huge amount of miles in that time. Mine's a 58cm frame so I'm pretty sure it'll be long enough (though can measure of course).

It's from a (respected brand) Chinese manufacturer but I wouldn't be after loads for it - drop me an email if you're interested.

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Posted : 25/04/2014 12:22 pm
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I don't want to make things more complex but a lot of carbon forks specify that the whole of the stem has to be over the steerer tube and that a 5mm spacer has to be run above the stem too.
Whoops
[url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/faq/ ]22. How many ‘Stack Washers’ can I use on a carbon steerer?: We recommend 40mm maximum.[/url]
Double whoops, think I need to flip my stem and recut my steerer 😳


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:33 pm
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Update.. Forks have gone to Mike Burrows.. £25 to add a 'plug' and should get them back next week.
Todays drama over. All i need to do now is strip a thread.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:50 pm
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All i need to do now is strip a thread.

Maybe get the rest of the jobs done at a shop? 😉

...also, Mike Burrows seems to know his onions.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/mike-burrows-cycling-innovator-27010


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 12:57 pm
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Mike Burrows seems to know his onions.
been around for a while, didn't he design this
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aswell as a load of road/tt stuff?


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 1:15 pm
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Amazing how many people might have carbon disc forks for sale. I might have to do a wanted ad.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 1:18 pm
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been around for a while, didn't he design this

I sold a few of them. They were rubbish. 🙂

The TCR on the other hand was a much better idea.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 1:43 pm
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Dammit, I wish I hadn't seen those Whiskey forks 😕


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 1:49 pm
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They were rubbish
they looked the bollocks in late 90s tho, didn't the bigger brother ATX1 do OK on the downhill circuit?

Having difficulty finding MB in ref to the mcm or ATX on google, maybe he was just working at Giant when they were made?


 
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Yeah, the ATX was what Rob Warner and a few others were on and the MCM(?) was the carbon posh XC version. I don't actually think that MB was involved with those though - just the TCR and MCR TT frame of the same era.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 1:53 pm
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Dammit, I wish I hadn't seen those Whiskey forks

What, these ones?

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Posted : 25/04/2014 3:30 pm
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Jamie... stop it!

Now why can't Kinesis do a bolt through version of their Cxd fork? That'd be nice.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 3:50 pm
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It's a shame Giant don't sell the TCX SLR 1 as a frameset.

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Posted : 25/04/2014 4:04 pm
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Would be tempting. Still mulling over a TCX Advanced here.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 4:09 pm
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I got a guy coming tomorrow, to probably buy my SLR 2 off me. Then it's pre-order city for the 2015 SLR 1 when they are available. Hoping they will come with the [url= http://road.cc/content/news/115210-shimano-introduces-road-hydro-disc-brakes-mechanical-shifting ]Shimano STIs[/url], as the SRAM levers look like Easter Island statues.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 4:12 pm
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They do look good. Got 105 STI and mechs in the spares bin though so I'll probably make do with some BB7's till there's some good deals to be had on the Shimano mechanical hydros.


 
Posted : 25/04/2014 4:22 pm
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If you buy a crown race cutter you could shave a few mm off either end of the headtube ?

🙂


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 6:20 pm
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Wouldn't really want to start chopping a brand new Ti frame.
Mike has installed a plug in the forks and they should be back tomorrow.
Hopefully be up and riding before the weekend as my recalled / replacement Spyres are back too.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 6:32 pm
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You only just got your Spyres back?

Seems a long time.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 6:38 pm
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Finally... a few little waits for forgotten parts its finished.
Steerer is too long so will trim it by about 10mm but here it is for proof..

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Blue Ti skewerers on their way from Taiwan, light weight tubes to go on and maybe some lighter shimano a600 pedals for my ride to work..


 
Posted : 08/05/2014 11:57 pm
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Nice, but bin the Ti skewers idea...


 
Posted : 08/05/2014 11:59 pm
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Nice, but bin the Ti skewers idea...

The ones I got from the east had plastic bearing surfaces in them and failed on the 2nd ride, just buy KCNC or MtZoom ones instead from a UK shop.


 
Posted : 30/06/2014 1:52 pm
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Yeah, I've had Ti skewers eject a back wheel before, and that happened a few hours after checking they were clamped down.


 
Posted : 30/06/2014 2:19 pm
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Steerer is too long so will trim it by about 10mm

No don't. Just leave it. Plese.

Nice, but bin the Ti skewers idea...

I'd follow this advice. Ti isnt a very good material for skewers, as it 'stretches' and can't be tightened up as well as a steel one. Th e small weight gain of steel is well worth it; the weight isn\t an issue in the centre of the hub. You can't beat even basic cheap Shimano skewers for efficiency.


 
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