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[Closed] Are there any 9-speed clutch mechs? or is it only 10?

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Clutch sounds good, but 10speed does not.
Any option for a tech luddite such as myself?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:51 am
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In Shimano clutch mechs are 10 speed only.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:52 am
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Ok, cheers MrP.
Bugger. I guess i'll just stick with the bouncy-clanky chain i have been using just fine for years.

Lardman.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:56 am
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First person to get one working on 9spd gets a boiled sweet.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 11:58 am
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At the risk of ridicule.

Surely the number gears is just dependant on the shifter? Use a 10-speed mech with a 9 speed shifter and you'll be ok.

Or not?

edit - suppose you might need a 10 speed chain.

edit again - then I suppose you'd need a new cassette.

All depends if a 9 speed chain will go on a 10-speed mech then.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:01 pm
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differet pull ratios/parallalllelelelelgram design thingie scuppers a 9sp shifter.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:04 pm
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Been thinking the same - might be time to bite the bullet next season and go 1x10


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:19 pm
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Ok then - Friction shifter + 9 speed cassette + 10 speed mech ? (although you might as well just go 10 speed)


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:32 pm
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It might be possible to change the cam in the shifter to correct the pull ratio for a 10-speed mech. But that'll be mucho hassle. Sadly both SRAM and Shimano want clutch mechs and big cassettes to be USPs for 10-speed so I don't think we'll ever see it roll down to 9.

(at least make us a 9-speed clutch Saint? No? Oh)


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:36 pm
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I would imagine the only issue would be chain width, this is assuming the width of the cassettes are the same then it would only be a jockey wheel change.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:08 pm
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A mate broke his rear mech on his demo , he got a new 10speed x9
Did two races and many days playing in the woods on it
And was asked how he was getting on with the 10sp mech on a 9sp cassete !
He thought it was 10 speed already. !!!!!!


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:34 pm
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I've been thinking it must be possible to re-engineer a 10 speed clutch mech to work with 9 speed, I discussed it with a friend in the bike industry, and he found this page, with an interesting solution with a damper, and super simple solution, (if you are prepared to drill a small hole in your mech)

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mtb-news.de/news/2012/11/14/hochspannung-fuer-alte-9-fach-schaltwerke-die-geschichte-vom-kettenglueck/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.mtb-news.de/news/2012/11/14/hochspannung-fuer-alte-9-fach-schaltwerke-die-geschichte-vom-kettenglueck/%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D428%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=R8KmUJ6kFLDJ0AW_04HwCQ&ved=0CCEQ7gEwAA


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 12:06 am
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This [url] http://www.bikerumor.com/mountain-bike/ [/url]


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 6:02 am
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Or go old school. Short length of alloy and a spring. The bullet bros tensioner!


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 9:16 am
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Allegedly.... 9sp shimano is 2-1 and 10sp is 1-1 and 9sp SRAM is 1-1 and 10sp is 2-1
So allegedly a 10sp SRAM rear mech would work with 9sp shimano shifters...
Allegedly..


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 12:39 pm
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Khani allegedly do you know anyone who allegedly has got this to work.


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 12:47 pm
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No. But in theory it should, maybe..
Allegedly...


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 1:39 pm
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Is there any reason why a 10 spd mech won't work on a 9 speed drivetrain?

I've used 9 spd mechs on 10 spd drivetrains without any issues at all ( when MrsB smashed the 10 spd rear mech on her road bike, the only spare I had was a 9 spd 105 one from an old bike of mine) . The shifters drive the ratios and indexing surely?


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 2:56 pm
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Is there any reason why a 10 spd mech won't work on a 9 speed drivetrain?

Yes, see above.

I've used 9 spd mechs on 10 spd drivetrains without any issues at all ( when MrsB smashed the 10 spd rear mech on her road bike, the only spare I had was a 9 spd 105 one from an old bike of mine)

Shimano road 9 & 10spd rear mechs use the same pull ratio


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 2:59 pm
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Are we really doing this again?!


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 3:23 pm
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@simon thanks, I must have been lucky then!


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 3:32 pm
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SRAM is 1-1 and 10sp is 2-1

IIRC 10sp isn't 1:1, but it's not far off. Just far enough that 9sp SRAM gear doesn't work.

Andy


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 4:14 pm
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Are we really doing this again?!

We'll be doing this every week until nobody is using 9spd any more ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 17/11/2012 4:14 pm