Last year I had two bikes stolen from my shed,
A custom built Dialled Bikes Prince Albert and a Spesh Sirrus hybrid,
As heart broken as I was, the insurance paid out and I ended up with two pretty nice bikes,
One 27.5" and one 29"
Note that I didn't replace the hybrid which I really should do.
As some of you may be aware I (Mrstaco) tracked down the PA and we eventually returned it home!
that was last last year and I've only ridden the bike a hand full of times,
It's not that I don't like the bike, the bike is a beautiful ride and I feel a pretty strong connection (not weird at all),
It's just that since riding the larger wheels I feel 26" just isn't enough 🙄
Question is, What to do with the bike?
Sell it alongside my recently purchased 29" (Vitus dee 29) and purchase something all together better and something that I'll actually use on the local trials and a cheaper 2nd hand road bike (to replace to hybrid)
or cling on to the old fella forever more, hoping he can somehow satisfy me like he used to? 😉
Who would buy a 26" bike anyway?!
At least 26er bikes have a correctly sized axle spacing. All your big wheelers will need to be changed next year to the new wider axle standard to stop them flopping around everywhere.
I would buy a 26" bike.
I kept my 26" 2010 Zesty, second hand bike values arent good. Makes a great bike for trail/easy stuff. Made sense to keep it and even upgrade to 1 x 11 for value for money. I ride my 27 mostly.
lol @
Who buys that sort of tripe?
so all 26" bikes are tripe, regardless of make/model/age/type?
Not sure if this is a troll, but I only have 26" still. Thought about getting a 29er last year when the old 26" bike (bought in 2000/1) broke but it's fixed now and better than ever - just did the off-road circuit of Whernside yesterday in fact. Bit boggy in parts but the trail was certainly alive!
i have a 26 inch bike and enjoy riding it. im happy not spending money on marketing bullsheet.
Not sure if this is a troll
Certainly not, A very genuine post!
Well we were due another one but you're trying too hard.
I took my 26er out for a ride earlier this week (first time in almost a year) I didn't die. In fact, I really rather enjoyed it. I think I'll try to ride it a lot more in 2015.
Mind you, I reckon it would be pretty worthless now if I were to try to sell it.
I bought a new 26' bike recently http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m1b4s1p4945/GIANT-ANTHEM-X-2-2013 Bargaintastic!
I get your dilemna.
I've got two really nice 26" bikes: a 5 Spot and a Superlight.
If I ever went to sell them on they would be worth buttons.
So I'll just ride them until they die.
As heart broken as I was, the insurance paid out
tracked down the PA and we eventually returned it home
Question is, What to do with the bike?
Your insurance company paid out, therefore if its now recovered that particular piece of tripe is not actually yours to do anything with 😉
I have an awesome 26" bike. I will probably hang on to it as long as I can find wheels and tyres for it.
I just stuck 650b decals on my 26" rims and the trails came alive. It was amazing and far from the marginal difference some naysayers would have you believe. Best of all, the new decals only set me back a fiver or so, a lot cheaper than a new frame, fork and wheel-set and with identical results.
Plus I've supported the UK decal-printing industry, thus making a small but significant contribution to our thriving economy.
The only bike I've sold in recent years was 27.5 (didn't like it enough to ride it enough). I only sold that as it was new enough and "current" enough to get something decent for it. As others have said, I rarely find it worth selling bikes, but then I do have plenty of space to store them 😉
Only got 26" now. Some people like tripe.
Your insurance company paid out, therefore if its now recovered that particular piece of tripe is not actually yours to do anything with
True but I did the correct thing in letting them know, I purchased the bike back from them.
I just stuck 650b decals on my 26" rims and the trails came alive. It was amazing and far from the marginal difference some naysayers would have you believe. Best of all, the new decals only set me back a fiver or so, a lot cheaper than a new frame, fork and wheel-set and with identical results.Plus I've supported the UK decal-printing industry, thus making a small but significant contribution to our thriving economy.
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Vitus dee 29
Who buys that sort of tripe?!
😆
At exactly 150cm tall, I can't imagine buying any other wheel size !
[quote=hels ]At exactly 150cm tall, I can't imagine buying any other wheel size !
Want to buy a bike? 😆
Is this one of those - "would someone like to buy my bike" type threads?
People still do readily buy 26" bikes, yes values have taken a hit, but Spesh aside not many mainstream high-end 26" bikes have hit the shelves since when? 2013? which of course in MTB terms means Sept/Oct 2012.
Even the best 26" bikes are now 3 generations old - they're not going to be super money anyway.
Vitus dee is actually a nice ride, purchased with the idea of putting slicks on but works pretty well around local trails!
Is this one of those - "would someone like to buy my bike" type threads?
Subconsciously, maybe
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Normally I'd say keep it. One day you'll decide that your new bikes aren't actually better than this old one, just different and that there are things you still love about the PA. However, if that hasn't happened in a year then maybe it wont. It doesn't really matter whether 27 is any better than 26. If you think you need that extra inch then you do. So, stick it on the classifieds and let somebody else enjoy it.
Still riding a 26er does this make me an inferior bike rider...
Still riding a 26er does this make me an inferior bike rider
A bad workman blames his tools.
I bought my first 26" wheel since 2008 last week, it's still alive barely
Vitus dee is actually a nice ride, purchased with the idea of putting slicks on but works pretty well around local trails!
I bought a 26" Vitus Dee last year. So I buy this kind of crap. I've got so many 26" tyres and bits and pieces knocking about it made lot more sense than the 29er. I've got another 29er, and it is also a bike and fun to ride.
Anyway, who's got some kittens needing mangled?
26er all the way ... gave up being a fashion victim when i turned 25 😉
my rigid tinbred is still lovely to ride!
Where are all these 26" bikes going for buttons? I feel like I need to stock up!
I've a shedfull of 26" bits. Tempted to get some of the built up.
Sure they're not as fast as 29ers, but unless your racing who cares?
The only downside is the mass market never really nailed the long/low geometry before switching wheel sizes. Which means there aren't many 26" FS bikes I'd actualy want (a DMR Bolt XL, an orange 5 with a XL TT and 17" seatube?). The rocket is probably close if they start showing up s/h.
All this ' nobody wants a 26er' stuff really seems nonsense to me.
There must be thousands of perfectly good ( well they were until some believed all the hype) 26 wheeled bikes out there, some very high end , very well maintained perfectly functional ones too.
There must also be many folk who simply can't afford, or didn't think they could, who enjoy riding and possibly have given their all in pursuit of a sport they want to progress in, but have had to do so on their BSO or possibly ( say ) Carrerra or similar ' beginners ' bike, who are only to happy to progress onto something ' better' irrespective of wheel size.
In the extended group of seventeen,folk who I often ride with, most of who, ride at least once a week, a few two or three times and one or two maybe once a month, there are two guys on 29 ers, three on 27.5 and fourteen ( inc myself) on 26,
Ability levels vary, but most will ride , for want of a better way of putting it, at least at red trail centre level and some much more techy stuff. Ages vary from 16 to 55.
Clearly all love their riding ( mostly non trail centre, hilly, forest stuff, but with bigger rides and longer breaks in more challenging terrain thrown in.)
The biggest considerations for most , are time and money.
We have a proper broad church of backgrounds ; company director, househusband, working single mum, builders, forest worker, retail managers.......you name it we've probably got one !
There is little correlation between , bikes and income, or riding 'ability', or, as we are discussing it, wheel size.
Everyone keeps their bike in a good state of maintenance , everyone has a grin on their face after a good day out.
I've been on my much upgraded 26er now for about 7 years. I have been very short of cash, but kept it running perfectly.
I'll shortly be in a position, to buy a new bike, I'm actually concerned that I might be making the wrong move and hate the new one, but because I can, I'm simply going to treat myself
There is way too much choice out there at the moment and a whole load of marketing and media bollocks to wade through.
However, new bike it is.
Meantime, one of our keenest riders, who is currently trying to save for his first own home and to marry, really can't afford to upgrade his bike, or even buy it the new wheels and drive train it needs. So, when I get my new one I'm giving my current bike to him.
In turn his bike is going to a lad he works ( happy to buy the parts it needs) with to get him into riding.
Another guy in our group has a year old 26" SB66c and frankly couldn't care less that it's a small wheeler.
So, sure, the industry and hype might have reduced the cash value of 26 ers, but please, let's not write em off.
There must be a great many folk, happy to buy them, simply to start them on the road to proper mountain biking.
I'm not suggesting they all become ' karma' bikes , but 26 ain't ( totally) dead.
Edit...Oh Lordy , sorry, I did bang on a bit !
Where are all these 26" bikes going for buttons?
I may know of a lovely Prince Albert going at a fair price 😉
I may know of a lovely Prince Albert going at a fair price
Already got an Alpine! Fancy a Soul, but they seem to be about the same price s/h they've always been.
Bought some 29" rigid forks for my recently retired Prince Albert frame & built up a 26" heap from the spares box - absolutely love it 🙂 - was thinking of getting 29" rigid but won't be bothering now
Oh Lordy , sorry, I did bang on a bit !
Not at all!
I too have struggled to finance my habit, the PA was a evolution of bike parts that I could afford as and when I needed to replace parts.
I've no doubt the industry has had it's part in the 26" downfall but I'm purely making decisions on what I like riding,
The PA stays, until summer at least!
it deserves my attention on some dry trails, Who knows, I might fall in love again.
I can forsee people like me buying 26" kit for spares soon. I'd advise against binning it.
[i]26" bikes are now 3 generations old[/i]
Three iterations perhaps.
I go past guys on racing bikes on my 26 incher so they can't be all that bad. Been training on road on my mountain bike all through the winter months. Go off road a bit too, never tried a 27.5 or 29er but surely they must be less manoeuvrable on tight turns?
never tried a 27.5 or 29er but surely they must be less manoeuvrable on tight turns?
Bingo! What do I win? 🙂
It might just be my imagination but people seem to treat wheelsize in a different way to other standards and I'm not sure why. I think my approach to it is pretty much the same. I'll upgrade my bike/frame when there is something new that I want and that I can't fit to my existing bike. When I do it will naturally have whatever the popular standards are at the time.
So, I recently "upgraded" to a set of Pikes as I thought they felt better than what I had. If my frame had a straight steerer I might have used that as an excuse for a new bike/frame, but it didn't. I fitted a reverb as I preferred it to my old gravity dropper. If my frame had a 27.2 seat tube I might have used that as an excuse for a new bike/frame, but it didn't.
I've ridden the 650B version of my bike (Five) and to me it just felt like a slightly heavier slightly less fun version of the same bike. So, I doubt I'd upgrade just to get bigger wheels as they don't seem to offer anything I want. But when I do upgrade (because something comes along that I do want) I dare say the new bike will have whatever the fashionable wheelsize is at the time, in much the same way that it will use whatever hub, headset, brake etc standard is in vogue.
I go past guys on racing bikes on my 26 incher so they can't be all that bad
If you are on a road bike and a MTBer passes you you are a bad [ if not terrible] rider*.
they must be less manoeuvrable on tight turns?
Still brings the trail alive
* if true they may have been in zone 2 building base miles but more likely they were cycling home form work
The difference from 26 to 29 is large, but not so much to 650B - maybe some grip increase.
However the difference to 650B bikes can be a lot more as more modern bikes have slacker HA, shorter stems, wider bars, different geo, etc.
I rode a 650B flux and the difference to my 26 flux with 120mm forks (so slacker), wide bars and shorter stem just was very small, and certainly not worth the financial cost of changing.
So the manufacturers produced a wheel size that was the next new thing after 29er,650b or what ever you wish to call it .. the devil reincarnated with such hate from 26" owners... scorn poured up on it urghh I will never buy one & all that palarver, I sold a 5 month old snappierre Zesty 914 2013 because of continual crack issues & having had enough of it & the timing was right as SC launched the Bronson, I swiftly imported one late 2013 saved a lot of hard earned pennies & from many people I had very negative comments, it'll never replace 26, what's the point, hardly any difference in tyre size blah blah I could go on, well if you've ridden a 650b bike long enough to understand it then the benefits are real, yes there are still some cracking 26" bikes out there but sadly the value of them is plummeting, & I have to say we are victim to market forces & manufacturers but it's here to stay so either embrace it try & get a fair price soon or get really pissed of at getting nowt for your 26' bike. And I thought the wheel debate call it what you may had been done to death on here.
I'll look forward to the scornfull replies & no doubt how shite Bronson's are.
I have a 26" for the techie, tight, fun stuff and a 29er for the fast long open stuff. If I had to compromise and could only afford one bike, maybe I would just have a 27.5 as a jack of all trades 🙂
Truth is, if I could afford one I would have a 27.5 if my stable too 😉
Me too, love my 514.I kept my 26" 2010 Zesty,
Not enough peeps buying second hand 26er stuff. I haven't had any decent nibbles on my lush SS 26 frame and took a load of tyres to our cycle jumble, then brought them home............
Sticking with 26" for the foreseeable future so that I can blame the bike wheel size and not my lack of skills. Cant see me getting any more enjoyment by changing.
Just for the record. My post was not anti progress, or larger wheel size in any way. More just a case of, just because they aren't new, doesn't mean that 26 has failed to be viable for a great many folk, who can I'll a fford to feel that their 26er is no longer justifiable. The ' sport' nor the industry can afford to alienate those who, in due course, will be able to invest in mountain biking, but who could easily feel ' hyped' out of it right now.
I don't care really who I'm quicker than, or who's better than me, it's all about the ride.
My new bike is going to be 27.5.
Furthermore, if I was an XC racer , almost certainly 29 is what I'd be looking at.
Are people still riding 26" Who buys that sort of tripe?!
I'm guessing those who either
1. Buy used as on a tight budget and 26er used bikes are often the biggest bang for buck.
2. Have a parts/tyres bin that suits 26"
3. Prefer 26ers for any number of physical/size-related reasons
4. Don't give a hoot about wheel size and just ride.
5. Are old with grey beard and grumpily despise 'new-fangled tosh'
I'm in the 1,2,4, camp and sometimes 3 (ie have a 26er utility bike with remarkably strong wheels that carries mad luggage/grocery weights and has a low-slung rack profile for balance when loading and carrying)
Banter over wheel sizes reminds me of both junior school playground and mantomime performances of certain motoring show. Carry on!
To whoever said about people buying up 26" spares. Shh! Am loving it at the moment but prices for some components seem to have gone up a little recently.
Didn't stop me getting a mint set of 55 rc3 ti's on ebay for £130 the other day. So am all for wheel size change as long as I can still get tyres
My mate and I were riding 26" 140mm full sussers, he was always a little bit faster than me.
He then bought a 650b 140mm full suss bike and i replaced my 26" wheel frame.
He's still a little bit faster than me.
Our other mate has always been faster than both of us, 26" HT or FS, and would still be faster if he was riding 12" girls bike with tassles hanging off the bars!!
Make of that what you will. And yes I know i'm the slowest rider in my group but they ride more than me.......
I must be behind the curve as I'm actively looking for a cheap 26" full sus to play with!
i like 26" thank you very much.
it's the right wheel size for my size (5ft 5 inches and a half 😉
by all means have the other sizes,but don't get rid of 26".
How tall are you? I may have just the thing for you in classifieds.frackitI must be behind the curve as I'm actively looking for a cheap 26" full sus to play with!
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I sold a 5 month old snappierre Zesty 914 2013 because of continual crack issues & having had enough of it & the timing was right as SC launched the Bronson, I swiftly imported one late 2013 saved a lot of hard earned pennies & from many people I had very negative comments, it'll never replace 26, what's the point, hardly any difference in tyre size blah blah I could go on, well if you've ridden a 650b bike long enough to understand it then the benefits are real, yes there are still some cracking 26" bikes out there but sadly the value of them is plummeting, & I have to say we are victim to market forces & manufacturers but it's here to stay so either embrace it try & get a fair price soon or get really pissed of at getting nowt for your 26' bike. And I thought the wheel debate call it what you may had been done to death on here.
To be fair I doubt the wheelsize makes that much difference. I swapped my zesty for a 26" Specialized Enduro and it feels better in pretty much every way.
I'm 5' 9" - ideally looking for a complete bike as I'm too impatient to wait whilst I build something up!
Just about to buy a 2nd hand 2011 Zesty 314 from a mate to replace my stolen 214. Can't wait.
I'm 5'9" as well. Well if you can find some wheels (I have stuck with 26" on a 650b set up Spitfire - still a tripe rider - so not selling wheels at the moment), let me know. Email in profile. Understand about impatience though! We have some XT cranks etc lying about which i can price up as I switched to 2x10.I'm 5' 9" - ideally looking for a complete bike as I'm too impatient to wait whilst I build something up!
I bought a 26 inch bike just last week. I admit they're not as good since 3 yrs ago when the fundamental physics changes and 26" wheels just don't roll anymore. But I still like it.
I have 2 26, one 29 and a road bike. I have no intention of going near 27.5 for the foreseeable suture. Just don't see the need.
It's all about the 650b+ now folks get with it.
Everyone just needs to start accepting wheel size like the amount of travel, or intended use and just choose the one you like. As long as you can get tyres I don't get the issue at all.
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I simply asked if I should keep my bike?! 🙄
talk about reinventing the wheel.everybody rode 26 for effing years and thought it was fine till the marketting dudes decided otherwise .rides as well as I do so I'm not arsed if its in fashion
talk about reinventing the wheel
Oh god do we have to!! 😉
I simply asked if I should keep my bike?!
That's fine, it's all the other pish that then follows about 26" wheels and everyone typing the same pish every time. Copy, paste, copy, paste...
frackit - I must be behind the curve as I'm actively looking for a cheap
26" full sus to play with!
I've a pretty mint 2006 Stumpy FSR that I maybe willing to sell if you are interested 😉
Spend waaay too much time on the road now and its just not getting the love
If you want to convert your wheels from 26" to 650b put some tyres with a higher profile on. If you want to convert your 650b to 26" then put some tyres with a lower profile on.
If you want to convert your 29" to 650b or 26" I'm afraid you'll have to buy a new bike.
The reason for this is that 26" and 650b are the same ****ing size.
I can put 27.5" wheels on my PA????
I've a pretty mint 2006 Stumpy FSR that I maybe willing to sell if you are interestedSpend waaay too much time on the road now and its just not getting the love
Jeepers- your still not riding off road? You said that years ago.
The difference in radius is 12.5mm so find a tyre which has a 12.5mm lower profile and it'll be the same size.
The real question is if a 12.5mm difference in radius makes such a massive difference in performance then why are mtb tyres marked so poorly?
People may not be buying higher end 26ers but judging by the bikes that come into my shop for servicing and repairs (and this thread) a lot of people are still riding them. In my experience the majority of people who've spent over £1000 on a bike expect to keep it for 5 or 10 years, maybe more, and stop looking at what's new once they've made their purchase.
As this thread lengthens, I've come to realize (as has been mentioned) that my OP was actually
"would someone like to buy my bike" type threads
What I've done in posting such a thread is convince myself to keep hold of the bike,
I had so much fun on this bike and it seems barmy that I should now not have the same fun simply because I'm getting something else from other sized wheels,
The bike hasn't changed, I have.... "It's not you, It's me" (has anyone had this type of conversation with their bike?)
I still love the bike and with any relationship, there needs to be compromise and effort,
I understand that 26" isn't really dead, perceptions differ over time and with new experiences but that doesn't mean to say that we can't work,
I'm going to bleed your brakes, replace your cables, I might even service your forks,
by god Albert I might even get you a dropper post!
Lets give it another go.
Pass the tissues 🙂
Malvern Rider
Banter over wheel sizes reminds me of both junior school playground and mantomime performances of certain motoring show. Carry on!
Couldn't agree more well said. I loved my last Zesty but it was the continual frame issues that put paid to it, if 650b hadn't come along i'd still be on 26" having tried a 29er & it not being my cup of tea.
Quite honestly people, ride whatever the hell you like. If you prefer one wheel size over another, buy a bike with that wheel size. Do NOT, I repeat, NOT, try and say there is no difference and that its all "marketing hype". It is very obvious that a 29er is "faster" and that 26ers can have a shorter wheelbase. So, if you ride endurance or xc races, chances are, a 29er will be faster (unless your quite short), if you ride very very tight trails, a 26er will probably be easier. Choose a wheel size according to how and where and what you like to ride, and please, shut up with your opinion on what's best.
I've a pretty mint 2006 Stumpy FSR that I maybe willing to sell if you are interested
Spend waaay too much time on the road now and its just not getting the love
Hora - Jeepers- your still not riding off road? You said that years ago.
Tragic isnt it. I've been around the water park a couple of times with the kids....I nail those flood defence drop offs !!!
Even got a reverb for it (still in box as havent fitted it yet).
Plans are to keep it for riding around the woods with the kids but that seems a long way off.
[Still riding a 26er does this make me an inferior bike rider...]
As long as you are riding faster than them it dosent matter, I love dropping friends riding Bronsons, Tallboys etc. on my 26 cotic soul 🙂
