I'm thinking of getting some XMM or XRM twin shots to put on a lurcher & was wondering how well they perform & how durable they are nowadays. I've had my fingers burnt enough times with pace forks of old & gave up on them about 7 years ago. I'm kind of hoping that now they are made by DT swiss that reliability issues of old are now gone.
Don't know anything about them, but a 200 hours service interval has to be better than 15 hours.
I have the single shot XMM 29er fork that came on my Canyon. The damping unit stopped working after a couple of rides and it took 7 weeks to get fixed! Now it's back I've only ridden it a couple of times but the fork feels really harsh compared to my Fox 140s (26er). Perhaps they will bed in after a few more rides.
Nice and stiff though.
I've got some their 120 mm twinshot forks and they've been faultless in the 6 months I've had them. Very stiff and plush. Awesome forks.
I got some single shot ones and I hate em 🙁
I've got some 140mm XMM Twin Shot on my 5 and think they're ace. Very smooth and very adjustable, they just gobble up everything I chuck at them. As has been stated the service intervals are far better then Fox.
I've had Fox 32 Floats, 36 Talas and some Rockshox Revs. The DT's are better then any of them imo, can't recommend them enough.
XMM 120 QR15s here, love them, no problems, feel stiffer than the Floats that they replaced and action is almost as good my Vanillas. Recommended.
I’ve got a set of EXM150 forks and because they are so good, I then bought a set of XRM100 SingleShot forks. If the TwinShot is anything like the SingleShot, then the (compression) damping is on the firmer side compared to a Fox, and they’re much more progressive, so don’t expect a super-plush fork/linear-feel. However, I highly rate them and find they really good on my Scott Spark ie XC bike. Quality seems superb so far, and the XRM100’s blow the SIDs away, which they replaced. Stiffness is also VERY god as well.
Just running mine in at the moment, they had little or no small bump compliance initially, but are getting better now. They dont feel like foxes, but are stiff and direct in 29er XMM guise. I had an issue with the axle inserts turning in the lowers, but some araldite sorted that. Light and stiff, and getting better with age, so I think in another month they'll be nicely bedded in.
Like andy146 i had the axle insert problem with my XMM's that came on my 29er Canyon - this was a problem DT Swiss had on a 'small' batch of XMM's made as OEM forks for Canyon. I've not had any other issues. I'm well past the 50hr 'bed in period' and the small bump compliance has certainly got better, not quite as good as similar forks from Fox for RockShox though. On the plus side they feel as hell of a lot stiffer than other 29er forks i've ridden.
Part of the reason they feel so unlike other forks may be due to the damper design being very different - instead of an open bath, open-cartridge like RS (is that the right description?!) or sealed cartridge like FOX FIT, they use a cartridge design that is kept under pressure by a pressurized IFP ie just like a rear shock.
What this does mean is that average Jo can't service the damper...
XMM140 here (12 months use) - light fork, fairly stiff, take a while to bed in, progressive, cheaper from Germany. I would buy them again over the other brands I've used (Fox, Manitou).
XRM 100 Twinshot 26" here, again came on a Canyon. I like them a lot, all the more so since I backed off the rebound and compression settings. Am building a 29er in a few weeks so will be for sale in July.
I have a pair of EXM 150 on my Nicolai AC and they are ace. After the break in period they are now buttery smooth and take up everything. Adding in the long service intervals, i dont understand why there arent anymore out on the trails!!
Hmm, sounds like they could be a goer then. Someone told me they were a bit flexy, but all the above contracdict that. Looks like i'll be getting a pair then.
I ran a pair of XMC130's for 18 months and really like them - they are not being used at the moment as the new frame I just finished building up was tapered. I have F120 RLC Kashimas now and so far I prefer the DT's feel (the Fox are still wearing in). They look miles better too, and I prefer the DT brake cable routing. They are very stiff for a reasonably light non-tapered QR fork.
andy146, I also have a canyon 29er with the same problem with my through axel... Just noticed it last weekend when wanting to take the wheel off! Got the axel out and wheel off today, but obviously now cannot get any real tightness back when wanting to put it back on.... You say arealdite works?
Monkeyboyjc. How did you sort yours? Did you contact canyon to find out that they had some duff batches!
Cheers in advance.
andybrett - Send Canyon UK an email and they will give you a returns number, you then send it to Pace, Canyon will refund the postage. I think they turn it round in a couple of weeks but mine took longer as I needed a damper as well.
Ive got a set of EXM150 forks. They are fantastic! I always set my forks up firm and these are great as they sit up in their travel more(hard to describe). Ive had revs, 32s and 36s and these are definitely more stiff than revs and 32s. Very happy that I bought them. Haven't needed a service yet and are dead easy to adjust and drop down to lower travel for the climbs. Only fork I'd swap them for is a set of devilles. Thinking of selling the rebas for some DTs.
andybrett, yup, you can send them to Pace after contacting Canyon, and be without them for a couple of weeks, or head to Halfords, get some araldite and have them fixed overnight. I'd run this solution past Canyon/Pace first, I reckon they'll understand!
I would get sorted by pace by bodging it and trying to save 3 weeks
I think it took about 3-4 weeks all in for mine to be fixed, but then i did go through a week of email tennis with Canyon 1st.
Canyon & Pace are aware of the problem so it sould be sorted pretty quick now.
Unfortunatly you do need to find a suitable fork box to send them in (which pace will send them back in).
RM SD cost me £21 insured, which canyon paid me back within 3 days of sending them a copy of the recipt.
personally i wouldnt go down the 'do it your self' route - it'll invalidate the warrenty (if they find out about it), and a warrenty is worth more than a couple weeks with out the bike imo.
I would advise speaking to Pace before attempting the DIY approach, if you see where I'm coming from here...