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Posted : 13/05/2009 2:59 pm
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RRR could be IVH, it is plausible. The guy has no defence, so why would anyone try to defend or justify his actions? RRR I would give up as you are starting to come accross as a shyster to me!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:01 pm
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I suppose tbh I'm only clinging to the hope that this was a massive b@lls-up on the part of IWH and not a full-on scam because as I mentioned before he has given me a HUGE amount of help in the past and had the opportunity to rip me off when I bought my FXR from him.

... if it turns out that he really has "sold" the same items to many people and that no-one gets things resolved then yep I will be hugely disappointed....and a mug!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:06 pm
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RopeyReignRider - i think your optimism and loyalty are laudable. It would be great if you were proved right, but honestly do you think that's likely now?


 
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Why would RRR try to defend someone who has no defence? IVH has done posting on here, due to being sussed out. RRR is just coming accross as a shyster for even trying to justify anything to do with IVH. I would want to ditance my self as far as possible from such a crap house of a person.

Is it beyond the realms of IVH to have quite a few allter egos knocking about on the net? He seems quite apt as bullshite.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:09 pm
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[i]RRR could be IVH, it is plausible. The guy has no defence, so why would anyone try to defend or justify his actions? RRR I would give up as you are starting to come accross as a shyster to me! [/i]

ooh ta, nice of you!! I am indeed Dan : / from BikeMagic.

Feel free to go over there and check the many hundreds of threads I've started. For info I frequent the "The Peaks Again" thread over there, used to ride a Giant Reign, now ride an FXR and ride in the dark Peak / Wharncliffe woods. The last thread I started on BM was about a long travel hardtail for a grand on the C2W scheme.

I'm also d****apman on the southerndownhill forum, Dan : / on descent-world forum


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:11 pm
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RopeyReignRider isn't IWH, he's Chelsey. 😉


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:11 pm
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But also, isn't RRR still into IWH for £100 or so for a spring? If I was in that situation I might try being IWH's best buddy until I had that spring in my hands too...

Fingers crossed for you RRR.


 
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"Pours the tea into RRR"

I think its more laughable than laudable


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:13 pm
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Re the receipts -

I have one here from posting a chainring t'other day.

It's sent recorded delivery, has the postcode near the bottom yet still says " 1st Class Packet"

It just has the line " Recorded £0.75 " below it

Do the receipts IWH sent show the recorded line below the "1st Class Packet" ???

Surely if you sent it recorded you also had to fill out a separate slip of which you kept half which had the tracking number on. Recorded is just 1st class post but with tracking.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:14 pm
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"RopeyReignRider isn't IWH, he's Chelsey."

I bet you cant find any pics of RRR with his arm round IVH though!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:15 pm
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Yeah I am waiting for a spring from IWH.

Yesterday he texted me a valid tracking code for it - due to be delivered today. As I'm not home to receive it I should be able to collect it from the sorting office tomorrow.

I shall let ye know how it goes...


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:16 pm
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he's still probably got the goods lying about

RRR, according to that BM thread you've already sent money to IWH for a Ti spring that you know he doesn't have! Your sense of loyalty is touching but really you owe this guy nothing... and he still owes you some goods that he may or may not have, or £105.

In fact if you don't have anything by tomorrow I'd drop PK ripper an email and get yourself added to the lynch mob.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:17 pm
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RopeyReignRider:

Yeah I am waiting for a spring from IWH.

Yesterday he texted me a valid tracking code for it - due to be delivered today. As I'm not home to receive it I should be able to collect it from the sorting office tomorrow.

I shall let ye know how it goes...

Ohhh the suspense.!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:20 pm
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[i]Surely if you sent it recorded you also had to fill out a separate slip of which you kept half which had the tracking number on. Recorded is just 1st class post but with tracking.[/i]

Nope I didn't... recorded just gives you a normal receipt but with the destination postcode and a barcode code on it (and a line under the postage cost saying "recorded"

I think special delivery is where you have another slip although I could be wrong..


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:21 pm
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Surely if you sent it recorded you also had to fill out a separate slip of which you kept half which had the tracking number on. Recorded is just 1st class post but with tracking.

Not any more, it's all done on a receipt now.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:21 pm
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I used to work for Royal Mail and recoreded delivery is a joke and is no more tracebale than Osma Bin Laden!

It has to be special delivery to trace it fully.

I think what the guy said about him supplying the fake proff of posting was more to do with the address been verified. If you send things 1st or second class you dont have to verify the address when printing the proof of posting. Stadard parcels have to have verified address that matches the postcode. If they cant verify the address it has to be logged as not verified.

So it he ad a ist class proof of posting then why would the receipt state verified or not? I guess thats why the PO thought the proof of posting was dobbied up.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:22 pm
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[i]RRR, according to that BM thread you've already sent money to IWH for a Ti spring that you know he doesn't have! Your sense of loyalty is touching but really you owe this guy nothing... and he still owes you some goods that he may or may not have, or £105. [/i]

I don't know that he hasn't got it - he texted me from Sea Otter to ask me which one I wanted - seems a bit elaborate for a scammer, to me anyway.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:23 pm
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And how long ago was he at Sea Otter? He seems to have been stringing people on here along for months with tales of personal misfortune, threats, fraud, burglaries and what have you.

Unless you actually have the spring in your hand, tomorrow, start taking action to recover your cash.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:41 pm
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hmmm, think it was a good 3 weeks ago.... towards the end of April ish

And yes if it doesn't turn up I shall indeed

a) look like a n0bber

b) get my money back

c) eat my hat(s) as appropriate


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:48 pm
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send me a fiver and i'll send you a hat - recorded delivery of course. 🙂


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:50 pm
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Thanks for the kind offer - I was thinking I could just offer to eat my helmet instead?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:53 pm
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lordy, that sounded very very wrong indeed....


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 3:55 pm
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Hmmm, so what are the odds of the spring getting to RRR then?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:09 pm
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I think IWH is really Billy Bleach.
Right you give him a fiver, you give him three quid, you give him one fifty back and that's you square, here's your four quid, oi mate got fifty pence, you give him two fifty, there's your tenner that's you sorted etc etc.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:10 pm
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Surely if you sent it recorded you also had to fill out a separate slip of which you kept half which had the tracking number on. Recorded is just 1st class post but with tracking.

Not any more, it's all done on a receipt now

Ah, fair enough, haven't lived in the uk for just over a year but used to fill out those orange slips all the time.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:17 pm
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no idea what this is about - just noticed what a huge thread it is. with so many replies I was wondering who hasn't replied?

I know I haven't


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:21 pm
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Do you reckon he paid import duty on the goods he bought in America? If he actually bought them that is. 😛


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:23 pm
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Can I clarify:

Has anyone had any correspondence with IWH/Lee since he stopped posting on here???

i.e. - has he 'gone to ground'?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:23 pm
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RRR.... he gave me 2 royal mail next day special delivery tracking numbers for my Pikes and M4's and guess what? after 24hrs they still showed no details, after 48hrs still no details, after 3 weeks guess what??? yep your right no details for those tracking numbers.
Checked them today in my dinner break as I was killing time and guess what? they are still not procesed!

Strange? NO
Outright B******S? YES

I rest my case 🙂


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:27 pm
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[i]Do you reckon he paid import duty on the goods he bought in America? If he actually bought them that is. [/i]

He sent HM Customs a cheque, did they not get it?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:28 pm
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with so many replies I was wondering who hasn't replied?

me.

but pop, here goes my thread replying virginity cherry.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:29 pm
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[i]RRR.... he gave me 2 royal mail next day special delivery tracking numbers for my Pikes and M4's and guess what? after 24hrs they still showed no details, after 48hrs still no details, after 3 weeks guess what??? yep your right no details for those tracking numbers.[/i]

But when I stick the code in the Royal Mail website it does say that it's being processed / on the way... due for delivery on 13th etc


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:35 pm
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I hadn't til now this threads got legs


 
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"But when I stick the code in the Royal Mail website it does say that it's being processed / on the way... due for delivery on 13th etc"

Yep exactly what I had when I first bought my items mate, it can't be proven as they still havn't been activated yet and I don't think they ever will be but my guess is that he got 2 royal mail special delivery bags from the post office and took them home, then emailed me the tracking numbers and I got all excited but then threw the bags in the bin or shredded them.
So every time you check them on Royal Mails track and trace you get the message "sorry there is no information for this item please try later"
Is that what happens when you did it RRR?
If yes then welcome to my world, its not a happy one but the sun is out, I have my health and the bunnies are still playing in the woods 🙂


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:42 pm
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Pk ripper.. do you want me to email you too mate?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:43 pm
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The crap thing about RMs Track & Trace is, it isn't

You can't track stuff until it's been delivered - what's the point in that? if it has been delivered I don't want to track the fekkin thing coz I've got it.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:44 pm
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[i]Is that what happens when you did it RRR?[/i]

Nope, I get the "it's being processed" message... oh well I'll see what happens..


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:48 pm
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Well i'm having bastard of a time getting my job reference delivered, but this makes it all seem very small in comparison.
and get himself on the thread.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:48 pm
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The crap thing about RMs Track & Trace is, it isn't

You can't track stuff until it's been delivered - what's the point in that? if it has been delivered I don't want to track the fekkin thing coz I've got it.

I always felt it was more worth it for me as a seller as I knew when the buyer had received it and they couldn't pull the 'I haven't received it trick', your right that it doesn't really help the buyer out much. In the days of the orange slips, the post office used to give me packs of them home so i could fill them out before i got to the post office, so i could have had a long list of tracking numbers at my disposal. Not sure if this is different now as it seems they don't use those slips anymore.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 4:57 pm
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Posted : 13/05/2009 4:59 pm
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Some very dodgy behaviour from the (supposed) seller here.
[and I'm on the thread...]


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 5:07 pm
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You can't track stuff until it's been delivered - what's the point in that?

Dreadful isn't it? If only they called it something like...oh, I don't know... Recorded Delivery... that way it would be clear to everyone that it was a service that provided a [i]record[/i] of [i]delivery[/i].

Oh no, I've only gone and posted on this thread as well :-O


 
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-m- it doesn't even provide proof of delivery when your postie just leaves your "Recorded Delivery" package hanging out of your letterbox when you're away for the weekend and any passing scally could wander off with your goods. According to the tracking system the package that I found sticking out of the door on Sunday night is still in transit to me. I thought they were meant to stick a card through your door and take it back to the post office, or do they just do that when they can't be arsed to even bother knocking on the door?

... and I'm on the thread!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 5:22 pm
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They take it back to the depot for me unless we leave a note telling them not to.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 5:31 pm
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Thread newbies 🙄


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 5:33 pm
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The recorded delivery thing dont matter in this case as the goods have not been sent! For once RM have done nothing wrong!


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 5:35 pm
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come on lets get this to £1000


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 6:16 pm
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oo err £1000 dont think so, ahem 1000...


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 6:17 pm
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Isn't it already well over £1000?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 6:19 pm
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Plaintiff's money

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Listening to

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Posted : 13/05/2009 6:26 pm
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I know it sounds vigilante but I would be driving down to Plymouth if I was out of pocket by a significant amount. I very nearly did when a certain forum member dissappeared with my wheels and my cash! It took a stern phone call to his home number (which I *ahem* found) to sort things out.


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 6:34 pm
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Andyhilton, not that simple in this case mate but glad you got your money back 🙂


 
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I realise. I feel so frustrated for everybody involved. I've always felt that this community could be trusted (I was here pre-hack) and have always bought and sold with confidence.

There needs to be some sort of qualification before you can sell. Wether this is a certain number of posts or time frame (where you actively post)to qualify yourself I don't know, but I would certainly welcome something for the protection of buyers and sellers.

Maybe somebody uses another forum where they have a feeback system or some other system that works.


 
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been following the thread and am quite exhausted by it all
just out of interest pimpmyride, why can't you visit Lee Anderson - is it distance, lack of details or some other reason?


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 7:23 pm
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forgot to say, I'm on the post 🙂


 
Posted : 13/05/2009 7:24 pm
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Pk-ripper, ygm.

Before you all ask, no I did not.


 
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hitman, I thought you had read the thread??
I did sort a visit out but did it the right way 🙂
Others are not so lucky and its now being sorted off this thread.

I must say though i'm still proud of how all of us involved handled this as in the future when we look back at it all other members will know what we are all about 🙂


 
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Pimpmyride
Sorry I did read it but obviously forgot you managed to resolve your problem - I think you sent a friend who lived in the area?
In that case why don't the others do likewise?
Anyway to everyone involved, I hope you get your money back asap - good luck


 
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Is Pat coming today?


 
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a some of the forums i post on wont let you start a thread untill youve posted a certain number of replies. And won't let you post in the classifides untill you've started a certain mnumber of threads that generated replies.


 
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a some of the forums i post on wont let you start a thread untill youve posted a certain number of replies. And won't let you post in the classifides untill you've started a certain mnumber of threads that generated replies.

on xcracer.com you have to put in your race results with the ad so people know who you are and that they could find you at a race (and so the moderators are also sure who you are i guess). Obviously my race results are so deplorable i never post anything for sale there.

On that basis, perhaps for here you should at least have to have posted a photo of your bike leaning against a trig point.

😉


 
Posted : 14/05/2009 9:22 am
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UPDATE ON THE SPRING:

erm... OK so a parcel was indeed waiting at the sorting office for me.

..however instead of the Ti coil (£105) I have been posted a complete new AIR shock (worth about £500 as it's for the FXR).

When IWH contacted me from the Sea Otter we discussed the possibility of me getting the Air shock for about £280 but I declined as I couldn't really afford it at the time....even though I really wanted one.

He's enclosed a polite note explaining that he managed to negotiate an end-of-sea otter price.

I'm hugely confused, especially at getting £280 worth of goods for £105!

Thought I'd update you all since you asked me about the spring..

: edited the value of spring as it's a lot cheaper out there like


 
Posted : 14/05/2009 9:32 am
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Hmm...

Maybe you should sell it, buy a Ti coil, then give the rest of the money to the people still owed. 😉


 
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So RRR gets more than he's bargained for & the other poor guys are still waiting for their goods/refunds ........... you couldn't make this up 😆

FFS IWH do the right thing & sort this out you plonker....


 
Posted : 14/05/2009 9:38 am
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This is getting very surreal now.

So, RRR has got more than he wanted and nobody else has anything?


 
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RopeyReignRider - you have pics to prove this of course?


 
Posted : 14/05/2009 9:39 am
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Maybe this is his reward for consistently defending IWH? 😛


 
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He's enclosed a polite note explaining that he managed to negotiate an end-of-sea otter price.

I'm hugely confused, especially at getting £500 worth of goods for £105!

Thought I'd update you all since you asked me about the spring..

No one is going to believe that, I'd post up a photo of it with the note and the wrapping If I were you, I imagine you'll get flamed otherwise.


 
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How about a picture of you & IWH in the same room holding a copy of todays paper?


 
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(that was going to be my last post)

I can put a piccy up tonight if you like?

I'm confused, just confused :-S


 
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end-of-sea otter price? A special rate for otters who travel to the end of the sea?


 
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The skeptic in me thinks that the RRR situation seems a bit fishy.


 
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I call BS....... very fishy


 
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Andyhilton, yesterday 🙂
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Sorry Andy, any excuse to lighten a thread with a daft fellow countryman!

But yes a whole shock instead of a spring is well wierd.


 
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So what's the Spankmonkey = CAD in the tag's? lost me.....

I found a hobby though.. Taunting Hora 🙂


 
Posted : 14/05/2009 10:00 am
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Do they actually sell bike stuff at the Sea Otter Classic?


 
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end-of-sea otter price? A special rate for otters who travel to the end of the sea?

Now IWH is not content with nicking money he's now made a semi-acquatic mammal extinct?!


 
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Do they actually sell bike stuff at the Sea Otter Classic?

No, but they have stuff lying around on tables, ahem..


 
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My guess is that IWH had the shock already (perhaps it even came with the frame) and has sent it to you in the hope of avoiding a visit from the boys.


 
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