**** you, orange unicorn.
Jeez that was tough. 🥵
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Had to pause for a min after the 1st set to get food and a water refill, went through 2x bananas and a pack of haribo during the ride!
Hmm, orange unicorn didn't feel as tough as I was expecting, certainly less so than red last week. I still had to take 90 seconds out between sets 3 & 4 to, errr, let the cat into the garage, then back out again.
Hadn't been on the trainer for a few months prior to this, or the road bike- wondering whether my body and mind are adjusting back up to the effort of constantly spinning/not freewheeling, and that I might be best to adjust the ftp up a bit from it's current pitiful level.
Cadence on my kickr core is a bit erratic, might have to hunt out the sensor and fit that, it's very difficult for me to hit the right count on short intervals, one second I'm way over, then under, not sure what's going on. One of my legs is a bit buggered, wonder if my uneven power output is confusing things.
Not looking forward to Yellow next week.
Wait till week 4 and the Purple Unicorn, that nearly killed me, had to press pause for 10 secs or so after a couple of the last intervals. 🥵
The longer ones really do get to you with fatigue towards the end
but I suppose that's what's it all about.
Didn't mind Orange Unicorn too much, it probably resembles my normal riding of just grinding it out. It's the peaks and sprints that get me.
Looks like I've got a bit of DOMS after this morning's workout.
About 4pm I suddenly got a very sore left leg with a small amount of cramp for good measure, making it hurt to move but also twitching at the same time. I usually just walk that thing off for a minute but this one came on while I was underneath my project car.
Removing a brake line.
With only a few inches of spare room.
And no way of getting out easily.
So I spent a minute or so making all sorts of random squeaks and groans while my leg twitched hard enough to rhythmically whack my knee and shin on the exhaust bracket.
Which is a sharp bit of steel.
With a pointy bolt for good measure.
I eventually got out from underneath the car and managed to stretch it out and it went away but I now have a nice collection of small bruises and the imprint of a 12mm spanner in my left side!
I'd better get a damn good FTP increase at the end of this 🤣
Worst zwifting injury I've heard of there 🤣🤣🤣
DrP
So, what's the plan for this week?
I'm going to leave the 1hr 45m of pain that is going to be yellow unicorn until the weekend...
Might I suggest that amalgam is a good candidate for a midweek group ride?
@twonks better to set FTP lower and see how you get on. My 20 min FTP was quite a bit lower than what I managed on the ramp test and I went with the 20 min one, think I'd be really struggling if I'd used the ramp FTP number.
I think a sunday morning unicorn again would be good. Agree that Amalgam for a midweek group looks good, easier for me to squeeze the 1hr ones in around other stuff.
My week this week is going to be a bit messy/lacking as i've the Brighton Half on sunday, so not keen on killing the legs at the weekend!
I'm going to do Ham sandwich later today (Monday, about 1600)..
Then it's the last STW zwift race on Tuesday...
Would a group Amalgam workout suit Thursday eve?
Then I MIGHT do Novanta on friday eve..then rest for the half....
I guess if most want to do unicord at the weekend, I'll have to pass on that one... I can create the meetup at a time that suits, just not turn up!!!!!
DrP
Novanta done, not bad either. I'm off on holiday on Saturday so will be cramming the lot in by Friday hopefully. I'm also trying to work out of I can fit week 4 into one and a half days when I get back 🤔
Can you choose an area to ride and then do your workout? I've been to France the last two sessions and I'm trying to finish off the wahoo challenge. Somewhere with elevation would be nice.
I’m also trying to work out of I can fit week 4 into one and a half days when I get back 🤔
No! 6 or 8 hours between workouts...
Plus it won't help you.. you'll just break yourself!
I've just did ham sandwich....
Oof... the mid intervals at 405 watts were a killer....
Drained the legs so I had to drop to 90% for rep 2,3,4 of the final bit!
Good one though!
DrP
Just about to start ham sandwich now.
Finally caught Covid so I'm out for a week or so until I fight this off
Really disappointed
You won't be able too, there's a minimum time between workouts, 8hrs or so.
Thursday is good for me for a group ride.
Can you choose an area to ride and then do your workout? I’ve been to France the last two sessions and I’m trying to finish off the wahoo challenge. Somewhere with elevation would be nice.
Yes
Yep I've been ticking off the routes on watopia on each session, just the big ones and a couple of tiny small ones to go!
I'm loathe to miss any,and week 4 is only 3 workouts with one being pedalling drills. I'll see when I get back, snowboarding for a week isn't exactly laying off the legs.
week 4 is only 3 workouts
but one of them is the Purple Unicorn 😈
Oh fiddlesticks 😂
What have I done. Somehow managed to go from my nice reliable (hardware wise anyway) KickR trainer to a new Neo 2 trainer (sending back) to a new Tacx Neo Bike.
Should be here in a few days and set up shortly after.
Idiot - now with no spare cash for the inevitability of a ‘real bike’ major expensive fail now I’ve spent my bike fund.
why have you sent the neo2 back!!!!
DrP
@DrP I was going to swap it for the ‘T’ version, as I wrongly thought that was what I was getting originally.
However the full Tacx bike also solves a couple of other issues and importantly frees up some room space so I took a plunge. It also has the internals of the T spec Neo so all good hopefully.
Ham Sandwich done this afternoon. Strangely enjoyable though, which is worrying me slightly 🤣
nice, seriously tempted by one of these (even though can't really afford it 😂). Where are you getting it from? Wiggle/CRC seems the cheapest (UK) price I've seen! Defo report back when it arrives!!new Tacx Neo Bike
Coming from Wiggle. Crc have it slightly cheaper oddly enough, but happy to keep my spends with Wiggle.
Ham Sandwich done this afternoon. Strangely enjoyable though, which is worrying me slightly
I wish. I've just finished it tonight. After about 25 years of riding on a turbo I can barely recall a single second I actually enjoyed.
Ham sandwich also done! The middle ham was quite enjoyable (ish) but yet again the fatigue really set in on the last UO... Phew!
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Invite for Thursday eve (1830) gone out...
AMALGAM... bit of a mishmash workout thus one, but good at pushing you to hold your FTP for 2 ten minute slots...
If you haven't got an invite, shout out!
Now.. I'll be there, but as I've the Brighton Half a few days later, I'm actually gonna do 90 min zone 2 with you lot! I know I know...cheater! But...
I'll be there for the unicorn next week!
Speaking of which...
Are you all mostly tied to evenings for the group workouts...?
Wondering if there's appetite for a Thursday daytime group at all?
Or... we could do the unicorn Saturday am?
DrP
Back to it now we've finally got electrickery again here.
Completed Novena this morning. Not too bad, a little dull but managed to keep my interest for an hour. I've only managed two of last weeks four workouts then this is my first for this week. Gouging to have to do one a day until Friday then attempt one around work on Sunday to complete this weeks sessions.
I've signed up for tomorrow's group ride and hopefully I'll finally make it to one!
@DrP I'd be keen to do a Thursday daytime ride but it depends on shifts. Evening rides can be a struggle to fit in around either late shifts or early starts.
@twonks Neo smart bike looks the same price to me @ CRC, unless there's a code or something? (Or they've adjusted their price to match Wiggle now!)
Arrrgh, why am I tempted 🤣 Someone else tell me they've got one & that it's terrible?! 😃
I've got the neo 2t, and it's fab...
I dunno if I'd go for an actual bike version 🤷♂️
I guess if I had the space I possibly would!
BTW, the neo 2t seems to be reduced in Zwift to £900...
DrP
it's a slightly smaller footprint than a bike + turbo, I think. Mine's permanently set up in the garage, so every little bit of extra space helps!I dunno if I’d go for an actual bike version
The Mrs likes to use it sometimes, and my bike is too big for her really, plus I have to adjust the saddle height each time! And it would mean I don't have to sod about with it taking it on/off for IRL rides.
Think I'm just trying to justify it to myself really 🤣 Already have an original Neo which is fine, so don't think I'd ever just upgrade to another turbo (unless it broke!)
Off work for the rest of the week, Yellow Unicorn this morning, the end of the last UO was tough, had to pause for 20 secs twice. Trying to keep RPM over 110 when already fatigued is a killer. 1hr 45min workouts are zero fun. Done now though thankfully 🙂
Yeah gonna have to make sure I'm properly fuelled for that one, plus have some snacks ready for on the workout!
Thinking about the Tacx bike (or any purpose built erg bike) vs normal bike + trainer, I was always in the normal bike + trainer camp.
The price of full erg bikes is silly tbh as there isn’t £1000+ of ‘extra’ kit in them over the basic trainer.
However on this occasion I have gone for a full erg bike because I fancy a go and like the idea of it being easily adjustable, quieter, easier to use and more ergonomic as a training device.
Clearly I don’t need one, or actually need a new turbo. I’m old, have relative disposable income and really can’t justify another real bike, so this is my toy for the year.
And as said it’s slightly smaller than bike + trainer, especially mine as I have a mtb with wide bars on it. This will mean I can move the room around a bit so I don’t have to step over the rowing machine - another guilty pleasure 😂
Noticed that some of you wanted to do the workouts out of order. Found this for someone a while ago . It may help
Found this link https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13G29M69jJ0tCr5zJuJfKt71suPrdbHhN
From this chat https://forums.zwift.com/t/build-me-up-workouts-independent-of-plan/515639/7
Also why do you choose Build me up.
@kentishman I believe that you can pick and choose workouts from plans with the latest Zwift update.
Thanks that's handy. I may give these a go then.
Ham Sandwich completed tonight - not too bad, although I now have a sore hip 🙁
Hopefully fine by the morning!
Weekday group rides are tricky for me, even at 6.30 Tues/Wed/Thurs as I'm not typically back from the office until 7.30-8.00pm... but I suspect I'm the exception so go ahead without me!
If we could do a group ride once in a while on a weekend morning that would be great. Last Sunday's Unicorn meet-up ride certainly helped me find the motivation to start (and finish!) it.
Nick... Next week I'll plan a Sat am group ride...
As I'd mentioned, I've the Brighton Half marathon this Sunday so taking this week easy...
Happy to put the unicorn for next Sat am... ?
Also.... who's joining us tonight?
DrP
I'm in. Third night in a row but I need fri/sat off.
Saw a notification for zwift companion for a sunday morning ride but not showing up in the app, is that happening?
I'm in for tonight, I'll be doing Novanta Friday or Saturday and then Yellow unicorn on Sunday.
I'm in for tonight...
Also…. who’s joining us tonight?
DrP
Hoping to, will see if I have time after getting home from work.
