As above.
I heard the trails took a hell of a beating? 🙁 Is there a committment to repair them after the race?
Dont talk to me about 10 @ kirro.
It twas a nightmare i tell ye!!
Prob get results mid week sometime
Hmmm. Did you win again?
Hmmm. Did you win again?
close, i was leading after 5 hours until i pulled out with horrendous hand cramps and numbness. Thought it would be safer to retire rather than risk hurting myself even more, plus with the weather and how bad some of the trail got i wasn't really enjoying it that much. Maybe next time 🙂
Wise decision.
thankyou. now i must sleep knowing i threw it all away 🙁
From what I've heard it was the smart decision. Not regretting my own decision to drop out in the slightest, we still got bloody soaked but we weren't paying for the privilege or spending a day driving there and back 
But full marks to everyone racing in poor conditions.
They had to cut the race short by 1 hour due to the course being a mud fest, darkness and a lot of folk getting karted off to hospital!
Good event though, glad I wasn't solo though would have been majorly tough.
radoggair - leading by 22 seconds after 5 hours though!!!
I did it solo and pulled out after 4.5 hours. I fell off three times in the space of 15 minutes, and decided enough was enough, and to be honest I wasn't enjoying it that much!. The normal trails were fine, the off piste stuff was a death trap, just as I was leaving I saw a woman with what looked like a broken shoulder / collarbone so probably a wise decision!
Well done to any solos who finished!!
Well done to those who took part sounds epic.
I was half of a pair that retired after 6 hours. The weather couldn't have got much worse in the afternoon and parts of the track were getting so bad that they were plain scary - especially the long rooty 'slope of doom' abour a mile in.
Well done to Radoggair for his performance, seeing as he got off a plane from Tenerife at 1am on Saturday morning, drove to Kirro and competed without sleep 😯
was Emma Guy Racing? I ask because I saw a woman in hub kit go down said 'slope of doom' so fast, it was amazing to watch, as I went down unclipped, one foot on the floor, back brake locked on, front wheel going sideways as it pleased...
Absolutely loved it... course was fantastic, even with the mud! Props to No Fuss for keeping it running smoothly and producing a fantastic technical endurance course.
bigdugsbaws - MemberI was half of a pair that retired after 6 hours. The weather couldn't have got much worse in the afternoon and parts of the track were getting so bad that they were plain scary - especially the long rooty 'slope of doom' abour a mile in.
One of the 'slopes of doom' was taped off towards the end with a different route around it. Agree with above though, watching the fastest riders in those sections was amazing.
i went round it for a practice on wednesday, before the rain, and hordes of folk. it was lovely, it was sublime but i thought to myself, you know i really wouldn't fancy this if it was raining and there was hundreds of folk.
even as i drive past on saturday i still had a twinge of regret (maybe even a bit of guilt as i settled down to fine food and a bit of a sleep later). well done to those who took part. sounds.....interesting!
I managed 4 laps as solo. I think there would have just been enough for a 5th lap, but i was completely gubbed as I'd come off a nigh shift with only an hours sleep in between.
Track wise, I thought it was fab. The gravel trails themselves held up very well, I wouldn't have said that there would need to be that much repair. The mud / offroad sections chopped up really bad though. I'm glad I took the Coiler to go round. The travel on that saved my bacon a good number of times ... or I wouldnae have balls left !
A good few specatular spills / slides ... me included. A chap behind me on the very last section said I should have got a prize for my efforts.
Good all round, if only a little spoiled by the weather.
Sounds good then as I love Kirroughtree and not bothered about off piste parts as that is expected
Pretty tired today after the efforts of yesterday.
Managed 7 laps, legs were ok at the end but my arms and hands were shattered near the end, last 2 laps I couldn't manage 1 finger braking! Brutal course but enjoyed myself none the less.
AntM - I also managed 7. Your comment about arms and hands is spot on - my legs were ok ish but I was making more and more mistakes on laps 6 and 7 as I couldn't move around on the bike as easily. Lap 7 was hard as well with just the back brake working 😆 I did enjoy the course though, it was a great mix of fast man made stuff and sketchy steep forest singletrack.
Max rspkt to the solo winners though - 9 laps 😮
radoggair - leading by 22 seconds after 5 hours though!!!
Was going through a 'bad' lap as well, but still think i could of won it although the guy lying 2nd wasn't hanging about and chances are may of pushed me into 2nd which i would of been happy with.
Think pairs/trio's was a good idea, making every lap practically a sprint althou i found that drinking and eating on the course was pretty limited. You would go through maybe a 20 minute patch without any chance of refuelling which isn't the best
First 10 hour race for me. Did it in a trio which was a good idea, as it gave plenty of time to wash bikes, put on some dry clothes and fuel up before the next lap. I found the course brilliant. A good mix of muddy rooty sections to test handling, and the fast red finish was a blast.
The trails will hopefully be fine when they dry out or the mud gets washed off. The rooty muddy bits are a mess, but they aren't part of the main trails so presumably won't be used much until the next race (SXC or whatever).
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Thats me on the podium with Andy, 7Stanes trail builder who was doing his 1st event of any kind for 8yrs and was chuffed to get 3rd in quad vets. We chatted to Chris Ross from FE and the forest boss man re repairs/re-routes for next year. Andy has got the bug so look out for improvements next yr.
shotrbreadfanylion^^^^ was 16 solo I think.
Well done everyone who got round.
I was suffering fom jetlag having spent 3wks in and flown home from Canada on Wed/Thurs, spending 20hrs or so in airports and planes before arriving home at 5pm on Fri with enough time to sort my biking gear
Despite the conditions I loved it. Did the first two laps and aand came back relatively dry but had to wait 3 hours before getting out for another two. It was a great mix of classic K'tree swoopy singletrack and thick muddy, rooty natural sections which were as exhausting to descend as any of the climbs.
Greig - the guy who was second when you dropped out finished third, winner did 9 laps with 7 mins between 1st and 3rd (if I remember correctly).
Great effort from AntM who never really stopped.
+2 to Ant, great effort. 6 laps on the singlespeed for me (how about a SS category like some other events) and my legs were done due to cramp which I persevered with for about half the race. Had a lucky escape on the last lap and thankfully they ruled out any mad thoughts I had about going out again.
Did it as a pair and absolutely loved every minute! Despite the dismal conditions everyone seemed to be in great fettle, and the trail banter was brilliant as well. Was about to head out on my 5th lap when the race was stopped, so I'm chuffed at 4 laps even though I was psyched to do the 5th!
Thanks again to the No Fuss team for yet another great event. Half the entry field as 10 Under the Ben, where was everyone? You missed out if you did 10 Under and missed this one. Well worth the long journey to the middle of nowhere! 😛
I thought the Trail was very good. I wasnt keen on the uphill off piste hike-a-bike but was different. Loved the muddy sections and was proabbly saved by using the bigger bike.
The trails took a beating with the weather and volume of riders but hopefully not to bad after the mud get washed off.
Well done to all the riders and thanks to the No fuss and others for the organisation. The constant jet wash was probably a life saver for many peoples bikes, many chain breaks going on and several new drive cains probably required after the weekend.
I thought it was a cracking weekend. Weather was dire and the course was incredibly tough.
Finished 6th or 7th in the Sen Solo category. Finished my 8th lap in about 9hr 50 something. Only found out theyd put the time back well when into the last lap.
Had one dodgy lap around 5 hours in where I was making daft mistakes, but a couple of gels and all was fine.
Well done to JB on his 1st place in Solo Vet!
The constant jet wash was probably a life saver
ugh, you reminded me of my worst moment... finished all my riding, queue'd in wet clobber for 30mins+ for the jet wash and just as I got it in my hands it packed up! Jumped in the stream to cleam bike, body and clothes all together 🙂
only the natural sections took a beating - the hardpack stuff was fine
course was excellent i loved it even in the mud - reminded me of racing back in the day at strathyre DH on rigids 😀
i was having a blast in trios having seen the weather forecast and wimping right out of the solo cat not wishing my recent chest infection to come back 2 weeks before a 24 hr TT
was 1/3rd of twa aberdeen rowies and a farfir bridie - with MS above and another team mate
missus T-R won the female solos though - despite her gears packing in due to a wee bend in the mech and leaving her to stomp the last lap with granny middle outer as her selection ! - She is sore today !
very good decision by frazer to cut short - i was one of the last folk to go out on course at 6.20 and in the woods i thought someone had turned the lights out !
oh yeah - plant sprayer saved our lives - lost count of how many bikes/bodys i washed with johny boys plant sprayer. most of the solo vet field at a guess and a few others ......
I was there in a pair with jimmy, and loved all of it, despite the weather being pretty foul. The natural stuff was a silly laugh and was lucky enough to avoid any bad tumbles. The last blast back to the campsite put a massive grin on my face every time 😀
Amazing course, just so much fun. Sun and dry trails would have been nice but nowhere near as fun IMO. Good work No Fuss, I'll be back next year.
That is a superb bit of trail, everytime I rode it it made feel like I could go round again despite just about crawling up that last steep climb. Respect to the guy on the singlespeed that rode up that.
By eck that was tough... just got home, managed to empty the car, dry off the tent and gazebo, cant face washing the bike, need to eat... again... and sleep!!!
Did 8 laps, in about 9hrs 15ish which got 1st Place in the Solo Vets :D... and just when I was having doubts that my preparation for SITS in August was going off the boil.
But a great weekend with Dickydutch and his mates, and a massive thanks to Sho for looking after us so well... 9hrs standing in the rain just to hand us a bottle as we went past... what a star!
Oh yeah... I want to know who emptied the contents of a Grow-bag down my shorts when I wasnt looking!!!???
i concur JB - my bath was brown - and i showered first ! - toenails wont clean ! ive scrubbed and scrubed and they still have mud engrained round the sides ! GRR
missus woke up with dreadlocks this morning - we camped last night too. She is having fun trying to get them out !
Fantastic weekend, my first race of any kind. Did it as part of a pair, we got 5 laps in, I had two flats and a pump fail on my second lap which cost us about an hour. My third lap was probably my best, got to grips with the mud (well, kinda) and had a good blast on the last descent.
Props to No Fuss for a great event, I'll definitely be up for 10 more at Moray.
Anyone got any pics? There were a few photographers out on the course.
shite weather, great race, great crack on the course. did it with 2 roadie/mtb novices (gruppo sportif bert prologue) that i used to race with 20 years ago.....they found it interesting:-)
I was going ask that too. They seemed to be well placed at times, and I'm hoping they got a few pictures of me as I'd be interested in buying them for a change. anyone know the websites for them?
I have a couple of my own pics which i'll try and get up soon. I was going to take the camera and camcorder out on a lap and stop at various sections and make a vid of the thing, but it was just too wet.
As for the mud, yeah - i still have dirty toe nails, just cant seem to shift it.
Looking back, the trail was great all told. The climbs were better than 10UTB (when i last did it ) as it didn't feel like one long grind up a fireroad and you did a decent amount of climbing on the trail sections themselves. The tricky sections were just tricky enough to make you think, but not too tricky to make them unridable an demoralising.
That long steep bit ... nuff said. I cleaned it first time round, but didn't bother after that.
Spoke to the photographer at the end and he said they'd be on the nofuss website soon!think there'll be some good ones.
They should be posted on Flickr tomorrow. Search "mtbpix" and look for the no fuss events photostream (10 under the Ben are there at the moment). There should also be a link to them on the No Fuss home page at some stage. Great event as usual! Well done to The boys and girls from the Manx Mountain Bike club for a great result in harsh conditions yesterday. 8)
Enjoyed the course for the most part. Soloed but stopped after 4 laps as I'm still recovering from viral stuff and didn't want to knock my pan in entirely and was starting to make silly mistakes like shifting gears with the wrong hand... Kerrrrrunchy! Well done everyone who slogged it out til the end and also Big Respek to BJH/Soulrider who did 4 laps with his wrist in a cast... Yorkshire 'ard.
a couple of the chaps from our wee group ...
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Went down with a few of the retrobike lads, although none of us did it retro. 3 of the guys were solo, I did it as part of a pair - We managed 3 laps each, happy with the effort given the conditions. Snapped 'Superman' above at the start, if I remember right he was pretty rapid.
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My team mate after his 3rd lap.
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I think I saw the bloke taking a bath with his bike in the burn on my final lap as I came over the wee bridge. Not sure what made me smile more, him or those diversion signs.
Such a good weekend with the best trails I've ridden for an age. The rooty sections were very slippery, but so much fun. It's fantastic riding an event like this where the course is challenging and enjoyable. Nice work No Fuss. Same time next year. Some photos on the Orange StalkBook page:
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I was chatting to a chap called Jimmy (I think), on the first lap whilst we got his saddle height sorted. He'd come up from London to race at Kirroughtree and has only been riding mountain bikes for 6 months. He was riding solo and managed 2 laps before the conditions got the better of him. I never saw him without a grin on his face though, he looked like he was loving every minute. Made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside....or maybe that was the whisky. 😆
Another excellent No Fuss event. I too loved every minute, except for the one's when I was on my bike and thinking I was going to die if I had to climb one more metre. 😀
Beagy
Fantastic race and course, really enjoyed it and was a bit annoyed they cut it short. We won Vets Trios - although just about everyone who enters gets on the podium for something or other 😉
really enjoyed it and was a bit annoyed they cut it short
had you tried riding it at 6.30pm ? really frazer had 2 options - call it short or insist on lights - how many of you had your lights with you .... i did 😉 state of charge i dont know but with 48 hours of power im sure i coulda cobbled together an hour
Lol, I was at Kirroughtree last Wednesday and found some of the off piste rooty sections - was trying to think of the best way to incorporate into the normal trail without having to loopback too much (for future visits). There was one section that was really steep - must have been mental in the rain after it had been ploughed up with a few hours of riding!
Results are up folks
my missus was 40th over all in solo with 6 laps in 9:21 .... woop to her
and we were 4th over all with 10 laps in 9:43
first 10@kirroughtree and managed to finish in the top half of the pairs (if only just!), alongside ittaika. despite concerns about fitness after a viral chest infection, i had a fantastic day and absolutely loved the course. the muddy, root infested descents were a blast - so much fun - and it took until my final lap before one of them bested me and i ended up face down in mud. 🙂 they were just so attackable and the pace kept the roots at bay! didn't see many people riding those sections hard but given i saw a few casualties through the day, it was probably a wise choice for most.
ending the lap on the final section of the red graded twister trail meant you forgot about your aches and pains for a while so it was nice to end each circuit with a smile.
many thanks to the nofuss organisers, marshalls and everyone involved. perhaps after a dreich and wet kirroughtree we can hope for a dry, sunny relentless? somehow i doubt it...
Very wet, very muddy, very fun! I don't think my kit will ever be the same though... The course was fantastic - properly challenging as a race course should be. I certainly felt no shame in having to walk a few sections.
Thanks to Fraser and the folks at no-fuss. Well worth the 9 hour drive back home.
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sam - i was the chap that came over about 7/8 hrs in and asked if you guys had sent out your lady yet because we were very impressed with your laptimes and thought we were going to be beaten by a mixed trio :O
Yeah Kirsty got her laps in and certainly didn't let the side down. Steve, as always, was a machine and I felt the best I have on an XC racecourse for a long time. Absolutely ideal conditions for the Dugasts and it's a very singlespeed friendly course so that helped. We probably could have saved some time here and there (Steve flatted on the first lap and couldn't fix it) but there is always something. We were pretty happy to finish where we did really. You guys definitely did well to get 10 laps in!
Can we all add our thanks to the guys/gals @ FE please.
Sure Frazer & co do a great job but the FE chap Chris Ross and his team also do a fair bit to make the event happen. Talking to him and his boss during the day and they are already planning stuff to improve things, such as creating a "gazebo park" at the transition area. If you have any constructive suggestions on how to improve the event from the FE point of veiw I am sure Chris and some of his colleagues and fellow locals will be reading this and take them on board. He cannot post due to works constraints I believe.
btw Chris can do the route under the 1hr mark in the dry 😀
yeah, came 46th in solo
(Steve flatted on the first lap and couldn't fix it)
aye that was unfortunate - i was nursing my extremely soft tire down the dh`s and came across him going slow down a hill then pushing up the hill , took me a bit to figure what he had done !
our 3rd man punctured on his first lap splitting his stans olympic across a spoke hole and slicing the tire DOH - that course can do that !
yeah, came 46th in solo
- slow - im dissapointed
results, where to find the rest? Ta
30th in solos for me with 6... interesting looking at how the lap times reflected my mental state and how long i loitered in the singular eaziup! 😕
another crazy enjoyable weekend, huh? amazing lap times from the quick guys, even more so from the soloists, 9 laps, the mind boggles. great effort.
always a brilliant venue, but i must admit to swinging from loving to hating to loving the natural sections... it felt great to get down them intact, pick a line, pick the braking points and just shoot, but when i was on the deck for a 3rd time during my 4th lap... well, the toys came out of the pram a wee bit 😆 part of me wondered at the wisdom of so much natural trail for the weather that was forecast, but i did really enjoy it ultimately...
thanks to all involved, organising, supporting and racing. more of the same next year... maybe a fraction drier??
i'm in awe of the top solo riders, they must be real tough characters.
Cheers stu, strangely wasn`t there when I googled??
Did anyone ride solo single speed and get higher than 34th position?
My full report up [url= http://singularcycles.posterous.com/10-kirroughtree-muddy-slimy-horrible-fun ]here[/url].
Any other riders do solo on a singlespeed? Saw a couple of guys on singlespeeds but don't know if they were solo.
Pics are on no fuss website now. I'm rider number 35 - couple of good pics of the filth and one of me going sicker than Wade Simmons 😆
I'm number 17, **** know what I was thinking giving the thumbs up. Not a good look, I'll use exhaustion as an excuse.
number 992 is me - like the one with the scotland top on aggression !
seems to like taking photos of me at the start - 4 or 5 of them are of me standing at the start as my tire deflates
well here's another thumbs up for the guys and gals that organised and ran the event... bloody fantastic! best race course I've ridden in years... possibly the best. really enjoyed every lap... even the one where I kept being over taken and then overtaking some tw&t who pronounced himself as "race leader... move over" to every rider he came across... he really was an obnoxious idiot ... but made me smile every time I passed him down the slimy rooty sections 😈 where he rode it like a virgin.
anyway I enjoyed every pedal revolution....
pity my bike didn't.... I stripped it down last night to find pedals (old candy 4ti) knackered, gore sealed cables solid, BB sodden and gritty, front bearings knackered... and best of all one rear pad that disintegrated 2 laps from the end and sounding awful had worn through the metal backing of the pad too and thus the rather effective rear brake on the last lap was due to a naked piston actuating on the rotor.. so I now have a nicely worn ceramic piston... oops!
worth every penny though.
He tried that with me too. Not exactly in the spirit of the event so I made him wait. I don't mind moving over and did it a few times before being asked but I refuse to move over when there's loads of obstacles waiting for me.
"race leader... move over"
agreed, he did it to me a couple of times, and i couldn't help think " ****t"
If you're on here, I don't really care, many many more people managed to pass me either through me looking out for them, or them politely asking ... everytime followed by a nice thank you. I couldn't give a stuff if its the lead or not ... be polite.
Hmmm, he must have gone past me at some stage but I can't recall him saying that. Probably because my ears were full of mud......
The vast majority of people were great, either if they were passing me or I was passing them - what you'd expect really from a no fuss event.
Rider 138 🙂
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some tw&t who pronounced himself as "race leader... move over" to every rider he came across... he really was an obnoxious idiot ... but made me smile every time I passed him down the slimy rooty sections where he rode it like a virgin.
Phew, that wasn't me saying that. I said 'rider coming through when you get a sec' . I was very polite, even to the guy who i asked 4 times the same thing although there was plenty of places to politely move over a touch without losing too much speed for himself