I didn't take chafing seriously when I set out on a 3 day South Downs Way ride last year, and lived to regret it.
So before the C2C ride this May, i want to be prepared.
Now it all gets a bit personal... My nether regions, like the rest of me, are female. I suffered a tender patch which went on to be broken skin on my bum (not gender-specific!), and painful soreness on the tops of my thighs and in what Assos refer to as 'intimate areas' and say you shouldn't use the cream on. ๐ณ
So there are lots of products out there - but how many will say 'avoid mucous membranes' when I read the packaging? Do any of them actually work/help? Any other women or even men with helpful advice as opposed to s****s? (s****s may be amusing so send 'em in, but it's really constructive advice i'm looking for).
Wiggle stock Natures Kiss, Udderly Smooth, Assos, DZ Nuts and Elite Ozone - anyone tried them?
Pesudo Cream, available from chemists.
Just slap it on liberally.
KY? There you go, sillyness over.
I use Minty Arse Lard, but my nether regions are male so that may be of no use if it can't be used near your, er, Lady Garden.
I think grahamh means Sudocrem
Sudocreme sounds good, remember it from nappy changing days, and much cheaper
Sudocrem
I have the bum of a fairy princess (though a little bigger & more hirsute) due to not riding very often. One of the best moments of my biking life was spent in a bush near the Devil's Dyke, with a tub of that stuff ! ๐ณ
I would have though sudo(a?)crem as well, but never used any thing, any never had any problems in that area either. I had a bit of mild kind of flakiness in one area after mayhem last year, but that's all.
I would suggest it's maybe worth looking at your shorts and saddle to see if they're causing the problem?
don't use Sudocrem, it's designed as a [i]treatment[/i] for any issues 'down there' not to prevent them
go for specific chamois cream that's actually designed to prevent such matters, Assos seems to be the most popular, for good reason, but you may find it a bit, er, tingly
I've got natures kiss and it's good, not as sticky as sudocreme but works well on my hairy arse, groin and top of legs, not sure how it would be on a ladies area though? mail them and ask
was that tmi above?? ๐
[i]don't use Sudocrem, it's designed as a treatment for any issues 'down there' not to prevent them[/i]
It's designed for both. Well, it's designed as a prevention and treatment for nappy rash, but it has other uses.
Sudocream does work before AND after. Its really really cheap if you just steal your firstborns.
don't use Sudocrem, it's designed as a treatment for any issues 'down there' not to prevent them
Well, it's nappy cream - designed to soothe sore areas but also to be used as prevention. It's a barrier formulation that's "designed" to stay put despite you peeing/kacking your pants up steep hills & sweating like a, err, fairy princess (?)
don't use chamois cream (at least til you've tried sudocrem) - it's designed to empty your wallet (and make your bits tingle !)
Sudocrem is mostly a barrier cream, so would do a reasonable job if you're worried about it going wear other creams shouldn't. Bepanthen is another nappy rash cream that would probably work well - it's a bit "sticker" than Sudocrem.
I use Elite Ozone - works well, nice thin layer does the job, and not messy. My nose it now conditioned so that I get a slight rush of pre-ride anticipation when I get a whiff of it ๐
I guess tingly is good?? Perhaps sudocrem with a few drops of peppermint oil?! Still have to research shorts, but I wear decent Enduras for women. Saddle never caused problems on 1 day rides...
Udderly Smooth is very good, very lubricating. Can be used for all sorts of things ๐
I use salad cream.
Works a treat on friction and gives you somate to liven up your ride snacks.
Udderly Smooth
I use this and find it as good as Assos but cheaper and less likely to irritate I think.
goose fat ๐ ๐
Another Sudocrem recomendation here. Get the real deal though, avoid fake 'Psuedocrem'.... ๐
I've used it before, during and after and it works most excelently.
It says on the label 'keep out of eyes, nose and mouth' tho ๐ฏ
form a girls perspective - Natures kiss on the inside and sudocream on the outside ๐
Sudocream do a small enough tub for your camelbak for mid ride top up ๐
And diverting slightly (but only slightly), are you planning on applying to your shorts or to you..?
I used to do the latter (the best bit about getting ready pre-ride), but now just lather it on the Assos chamois and hoist up the bibs for that "it's surprisingly cold" moment.
Being a boy, I use some generic stuff - smells like Sudacrem. Probably tastes like it, too.
Green Baby Nappy Balm Here - wonderful, wonderful stuff discovered accidentally when we'd run out of sudocreme.
The petroleum-free jelly is also very good.
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If already sore use Sudocrem
if not and it's dry use
Vaseline
if it's wet use
baby oil
if it's dry... if it's wet. What sort of question is that to ask a lady??
if it's dry... if it's wet. What sort of question is that to ask a lady??
listen, some of us are quite suggestible...
why is SFB always there to jump on a moment of innuendo?
old perv!
Assos here, generally speaking though you should look at the seating position first if you are suffering from blisters/redness.
why is SFB always there to jump on a moment of innuendo?
[b]some of us are quite suggestible... [/b] need I say mower ?
I use Udderly Smooth and its fantastic.
Not had any saddle problems in any 12/24hr race I've done.
Used Assos before, which was good. But Udderly Smooth is better.
Sudocream is a treatment, and works well. But its not a chamois cream, so only use it afterwards.
I had a bit of a chaffing/rubbing issue with my....lets just say my in betweenie bits. Neither my bits nor my bum. There is a name for this part of my anatomy but I dont want another ban unless it's deemed rude.
Anyway, I used talcum powder, which kept it dry(ish) and meant the rubbing was less abbrasive. Chaffage no more.
Udderly Smooth is very good, very lubricating. Can be used for all sorts of things
LOL!
But yes, I ve been sore on 1 day rides before and was very aware th when I did the Trans Wales last year it would be 7 days solid in the saddle. I bought some Udderly Smooth from Wiggle, mainly because it was cheaper than Assos and it's a bigger pot, and it was fantastic. No soreness at all.
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Udderly Smooth is basically shea butter and a few other bits and should be perfectly OK if it goes 'inside' as well as out.
I find a thick slathering on the chamois itself, and then let it work its way where it needs to rather than applying directly to your bits, is the best approach.
If you get problems, the best nappy rash cream FACT is Metanium. Stings a bit when it goes on but clears up chafing issues overnight.
Metanium. FACT
This thread is wasted without pictures
It says on the label 'keep out of eyes, nose and mouth' tho
thats cos it tastes rank! dont ask!
I use Assos for enduro events and have had no problems with my 'mucous membranes'. What a romantic description that is! Just remember to apply it before soreness occurs.... it flipping nips if you're already un peu chaffed.
In my experience, minty arse lard is an aquired taste. It can feel very cool (almost wet?) and make the wearer rather uncomfortable.
I use the Ozone Elite cream for all chafing uses - on the bike, thigh run when running and erm,......well that's all I can admit to.
Ben
Gnar, the word you are looking for is 'taint' as in i[b]t-ain't[/b] your bum and it-ain't yer balls.
Perineum to the rest of the world....
I'm an Assos boy myself, but anything that goes on greasy and stays around for a bit is good, but, as noted above, Assos does contain menthol which might be a bit....surprising...when first used on intimate lady bits.
I lathered up my pods the first time I used Assos MAL, never forget that.
assos for me, but then I'm a chap. My better half tried it once and decided against repeating the experience.
prior to discovering assos I was riding in Portugal and developing various additional holes in my arse due to a new saddle that didn't agree with me, ventured into a chemist in a village in the back of beyond with the hope of buying some savlon as emergency butt lube (it works at a push), after about 10 minutes of pointing to my backside, miming cycling and generally making a fool of myself I left with something that wasn't savlon leaving several smirking locals behind, reading the packing in the street it emerged I had procured something with the words "...hygene feminine..." on the label which transpired to be thrush cream. I decided to leg it rather than repeat the most humiliating game of charades ever, for the following few days I applied it liberally and applied it often, not sure how much good it did but my shorts have never smelt so good after a day in the saddle.
Moral - prevention is better than cure, and take your own if travelling abroad.
I did the transportugal a few years later, the locals all swear by some kind of halibut oil, doesn't smell as bad as you'd think
Assos.
not sudocrem (however it's spelt) it dries up too quickly and is paraffin wax based not glycerine/almond oil than which you get in proper chamois creme.
assos, natures kiss, O-zone all good for hours in the saddle, done 120miles a day with no 'issues'
Sudacreme here as well - works fine, but I only tend to get chafing on multiday and wet rides.
I have used assos before as well, and that was ace
I love this place - Just LOL'ed my head off at this thread! ๐ Another vote for the [i]'Minty arse lard'[/i] here. My Mrs swears by Tea Tree oil for Post chaffing sooth-age (If unfortunate enough for it to occur) ๐
Oooh I would have thought tea tree oil would a) sting a lot and b) dry your skin out too much?
Talking of stinging ... worst pain I ever felt, except perhaps tattoos and childbirth, was StuE spraying plastic skin on the open sore on my right buttock in a small hotel off the South Downs Way last June... God knows what the other residents thought was going on.
That was your mistake.
The correct procedure for all sorts of saddle sore issues is vodka. Drink half a bottle and use a thimbleful as sterilising fluid. Then set about treatment.
My worst saddle soreness experience was the mistake of riding a 10 hour enduro a couple of days post Brazilian wax. Biiiiiig mistake. That's when I found out that Assos stings if you're already tender.
jojoA1 - Member
My worst saddle soreness experience was the mistake of riding a 10 hour enduro a couple of days post Brazilian wax. Biiiiiig mistake. That's when I found out that Assos stings if you're already tender.
Steady, you'll have SFB stalking (in more than one sense) if you're not too careful ๐
We're talking prevention here rather than cure aren't we? So when I'm 'touching the void' I reach for the vaseline.
Steady, you'll have SFB stalking (in more than one sense)
I'm [b]way[/b] ahead of you :o)
I get the impression a Brazilian is NOT a good idea if you're going to be cycling - those short and curlies protect delicate parts...
Well I know that [i]now[/i]!
jojo - too much information there! You know how excitable the STW guys get ๐
You know how excitable the STW guys get
particularly me :o)
IM / IME if you are getting chaffing then something is wrong. Seat, seating position, clothing.
From my nurses perspective I would never use creams as a prevention - do all nasty sort of things to your skin. Block pores, alter PH and so on.
From my nurses perspective I would never use creams as a prevention - do all nasty sort of things to your skin. Block pores, alter PH and so on.
an interesting perspective - but riding is quite temporary - about 6% of my time...
I've used Assos MAL for doing Etapes in the past and it worked (I've always assumed Sudocreme to be more of a treatment than a preventative). But I'd say a greater factor was the quality of shorts (Assos again, no question - don't think they do a women-specific version, if such things make a difference), the saddle and the riding position.
if such things make a difference
well,considering the marked differences in anatomy in that region one might suppose it did!
Worth trying a different brand of shorts and perhaps try out some different saddles? Padding and shaping of both has a lot of input in this area! It could be your saddle is too wide towards the mid/front section and is rubbing.
Is minty arse lard applied to shorts or nethers?
vote number 2 for [b]Metanium[/b], it's a better barrier cream than Sudocrem, which is just a better known brand name. it has a higher titanium dioxide ratio than Sudocrem and is utterly waterproof.
try them both, i know which you'll discard.
Spud - either and/or both. I generally put it on the shorts
I'd also give the thumbs up for Bepanthen for post ride soothing
I've always got some (and sudocream for that matter) in the car as we've two under 3's. I have one of the little pots of sudo in my bag incase there's any sign of mid ride chaffing going on (which gets topped up from the massive pots we have around the house with the nappies )
Jeremy, sometimes it's just a case of having pressure in a place that is not accustomed to it for an extended period of time rather than anything wrong with seat/shorts/position. Say you went from being a weekend only rider to doing a 10 hour race, your botty bits would just not be prepared. Well that's my theory anyway! ๐
Cinnamon Girl, the boys talk about their vasectomies etc with impunity and absence of letching from us hot blooded females, it's about time we fought back! ๐
If you can get hold of it, try [b][i][u]Bag Balm[/u][/i][/b]. It's original use is for cows udders, but it is well thought of in the American Cycling community and a doctor actually recommended it to me. And yes that was a human doctor and not an animal one.
Google bag balm and cycling and see what results you get.
jojoA1 - Member
Jeremy, sometimes it's just a case of having pressure in a place that is not accustomed to it for an extended period of time rather than anything wrong with seat/shorts/position. Say you went from being a weekend only rider to doing a 10 hour race, your botty bits would just not be prepared.
'Tis true. You can build tolerance to this. Mrs B went from zero (non cyclist) to 100 mile per day rear gunner in 3 months. She needed time to build cycling muscles and the ability to sit on bike for hours one end.
S'not just girlies though, boys need to build bum tolerance too...

