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[Closed] Another split GravelKing -just bad luck?

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Went to get my not used much any more commuter out the other day to find the tyre was flat, a closer look reveals a sidewall split. I'd usually put this down to bad luck, excellent this is the second one that has gone on exactly the same way (noticed after being stored for a month or so, without weight on it)

Is it worth me chasing this up with Panaracer, or is this just a cut I didn't notice before putting it away and I've just been really unlucky?


 
Posted : 02/02/2021 9:36 pm
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Me and a friend both run them in 38mm and haven't had any issue like that.


 
Posted : 02/02/2021 9:45 pm
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Struggling to see how that's a fault of the tyre. Not in line with the weave for instance, goes through sidewall and tread also.


 
Posted : 02/02/2021 10:22 pm
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@Cynic-al - cheers, me too tbh. I guess I was just trying to find out if there was something other than bad luck at play.

@longdog - cheers, are your tanwall?

So, next question - would you ride that?
Won't seal with sealant. Stitch with floss and boot on the inside? Mushroom plug feels like it's making a hole bigger in this case. I run then at about 40psi


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 8:23 am
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@Cynic-al mine are black, his are tan wall.


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 8:53 am
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I tried them on my gravel bike, tubeless and they punctured continuously around the south downs. They are in my experience, just a bit rubbish when it comes to small sharp stones as found on most roads around here. And they struggled to seal when tubeless unlike other tyres too.

I wouldn't recommend them myself unfortunately.


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 9:20 am
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Thanks, is a shame as they roll well and they're nice and light, but I suspect that's due to lack of protection.
So, 38ish alternative? Hovering over buy on 40c tanwall Byways.


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 9:32 am
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i've gone Panaracer GravelKing SK on the front, i like it, will replace the WTB resolute on the back once the dynaplug i inserted in october fails.
ride an hour loop 25km tarmac and into the woods when it needs a wash, it does well on both.

9/10 on road.cc


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 10:06 am
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I've had no problems with tubeless GravelKing SKs here in the Midlands, despite various landowners tendency to surface tracks with crushed hardcore including glass.

Riddlers though? Jeez!


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 10:11 am
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I've had 32 and 38 in both standard and SK, all run tubeless and had no issues with splits.


 
Posted : 03/02/2021 10:17 am
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I ran those tyres in 38mm tubeless until recently - i never had any issues with sidewalls splitting but did have constant punctures when riding on anything other than smooth tarmac.
They were so nice to ride on though..
I gave up with them and replaced with 38mm Gravelking SK+ which are possibly slightly slower rolling than the original GKs, but so far not a single puncture.

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Posted : 03/02/2021 10:17 am
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The slick version seems to be quite bit more fragile than the SK. I tried them when they came out, and not going to buy again. As other have said, they are just too fragile. In a month the tread was full pinholes slowly leaking sealant out, so on a dusty day, you could see the moist patches all over the tyre. Had to top up monthly with 50 ml.

I've also been running the SK's for years and have nothing bad to say about them.


 
Posted : 04/02/2021 12:15 pm
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Dreadful for a tyre that should be reasonably durable. Mine were littered with cuts on their first ride, which was on rural (isle of mull) tarmac. Definitely better, more durable options out there.


 
Posted : 04/02/2021 3:28 pm
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I didn't use my gravelking sks for long enough to find out their durability but I have found the South Downs to be very hard on tyres. I think lots of rain exposes more sharp flints too. I've managed to slice open even quite heavy tyres (specialized grid, on-one smorgasbord) on very tame looking bits of track.


 
Posted : 04/02/2021 4:01 pm
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Slashed my rear Gravelking TLC 700x35mm on my Wednesday lunchbreak ride but not really complaining. Been running them tubeless and it was at 4700km and looks like glass on the road slashed open the carcass in the middle of the tyre. Quite incredibly the tubeless sealant sealed it after after about 90 seconds of on / off spurting - one of the biggest tyre slashes I've had seal in 10 years of being tubeless so quite impressed by that being honest!

Pumped it up at home, stored on the slash to allow sealant to flow through if required and it was riding fine again today. I will replace it though as it's pretty worn on the centre line anyway now.


 
Posted : 05/02/2021 7:15 pm