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[Closed] Another helmet article - sensible this time!

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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23800127.2018.1432088?scroll=top&needAccess=true

I've only read the abstract, but basically seems to argue helmets aren't all they're cracked up to be 😀 and the public's fixation with them hampers cyclists' safety.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 5:19 am
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To be honest I ride pretty cautiously whether I wear one or not. 😀 That being the case I can't see that I'm doing myself any harm by wearing one.

I can see that wearing one can subliminally have an effect on car drivers though. It kind of "dehumanises" a rider in some motorists eyes. I don't know if that paper mentioned it but in sure it's been discussed lots of times.

I'll keep wearing one anyway even if it's entirely a placebo fix to allow me to enjoy riding more. I worry about enough stuff as it is.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 5:35 am
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I’ve only read the abstract, but basically seems to argue helmets aren’t all they’re cracked up to be

I don’t believe it says that.  It does say that helmets reduce head injury but that a fixation on  helmet use distracts from the real causes of cyclist death and injury and the factors that prevent greater adoption of cycling in the US.

Basically, a cycle helmet is a good thing but if you get run over by a 38 ton lorry because the driver is on drugs, or the infra structure makes your commute inherently unsafe then a helmet won’t save you when you died of massive internal crushing injuries.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 6:25 am
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The risk of not wearing a helmet is likelihood of something happening and the consequence if it does.

The paper is a sensible study of likelihood but I don't think you can deduce from it that you shouldn't wear a helmet as an individual.

Removing the fixation on helmets could reduce the likelihood of getting a bang on the head in your lifetime from 5 times to 2 times. But the helmet might prevent any serious consequence all 5 times.

I've never been hit by anything (touch wood) but have hit my head twice due to just falling off, no one else involved. Both times I split my helmet and got concussion. So in my case a more relaxed stance on helmets could have had severe consequences.

Others will have totally different experiences but if you are going to use stats to decide whether to wear a helmet you have to see the full picture.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 7:41 am
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US article about US legislation.

If they were really worried about cyclist injuries from cars, then rather than obsessing about bike helmets, they would send cyclists more thoughts and prayers.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 9:41 am
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Be interesting to know how many people don't wear a helmet.  I have a feeling from my anecdotal evidence that it must be around 1% as I hardly ever se anyone not wearing a helmet when cycling (I don't wear one myself)

Any helmet debate is pretty pointless based on that.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 9:56 am
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Thing is I wear a helmet as it might make me safer but it makes others think cycling is unsafe and so dont do it and society suffers


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 10:17 am
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I very rarely wear one, usually only on the mtb, so that makes it about 25% of riders 😉


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 10:17 am
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I always ride one when mountain biking, rarely when doing other types of cycling though. This time of year, being bald, it’s a nice wool beanie.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 10:50 am
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I haven't read the article. I've broken 3 helmets due to head/harder thing interface, so I'll carry on wearing one.


 
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mtbing: always, commuting: mostly, unless it's mostly segregated from speeding head-height wing mirrors. Pootle along a tow path or along a deserted lane to pick up a baguette: nah.

I also never wear one in the car, shower, or walking down the stairs, all of which statistically carry higher risk of head injury than cycling.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 5:35 pm
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I was stopped by a park ranger in California a few weeks ago and asked (very politely) to put my helmet on (which I had taken off as it was hot, and I was slogging up an enormous hill).

True story bro.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 6:12 pm
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Interesting....

I don't wear a helmet a fair bit of the time offroad. I'll think about where I'm going and take one along and pop it on if I want to. Maybe not....

This is in Germany and people are very happy to tell you what they think you should be doing, so I asked a few folk that commented, why they mentioned it.

All they said was, its cycling, you should wear a helmet which boiled down to "by association", cycling = helmets which isnt thinking too much about things really.... especially when a lot of my riding this time of year is on fire roads in the forest as the trails have too much snow.

I worrry about mandatory helmet wearing deflecting liability in an accident caused by a third party because the cyclist wasnt wearing a helmet, therefore indicating a degree of liability for the accident itself.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 6:45 pm
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And Essel gets the prize for missing the point by the greatest distance, flattyre for selective quoting then agreeing with the quotee 😀


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 7:54 pm
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You could probably equally well study public fixation on hi vis vs accident reduction rate. Bet it doesn’t exist.


 
Posted : 17/02/2018 8:32 pm