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[i]October 2009. An upgrade is being prepared. This will consist of additional wheelbuilding notes and videos placed on this website. It will be password protected and I'll be emailing all purchasers of the book when it's ready and giving out their personal logon details.
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Best £9 I have ever spent, Mr Musson keeps on giving/supporting.


 
Posted : 27/10/2009 8:05 pm
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He is great. And incredibly self-effacing, you'd never know he was a wheelbuilding deity!


 
Posted : 27/10/2009 8:56 pm
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I have a set of wheels built by the man himself. He's legendary.


 
Posted : 27/10/2009 9:26 pm
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Very pleasant he is.


 
Posted : 27/10/2009 10:51 pm
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Yer great book well worth the cash - hope my dishing tool mod makes it into this revision


 
Posted : 27/10/2009 11:12 pm
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Can you tell us the mod? Mine would be double thickness at either end (where it touches the rim).


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 12:05 am
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I bought the e-book last november or so; double/triple thickness mod on the dishing tool was already in there.
One of the best £9's i evr spent on bike stuff BTW.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 12:07 am
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£9!!! There are countless free web pages on the tinternet explaining how to build wheels, why pay £9 for the same advise???


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 12:15 am
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Because you get what you pay for.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 12:29 am
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seeing as I'm one of the most respected wheelbuilders around

Not that self-effacing then. 😛


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 12:49 am
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Cant see the point Let the shop make them up


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:39 am
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Built my first wheel with the books help the other day. It is yet to be trued up but its looking ok so far. Better than wheels from bike shops I've had thats for sure.

And its so bloody easy!


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 7:33 am
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Cant see the point Let the shop make them up

Because making and maintaining your own set(s) of wheels is one of the most satisfying things you'll ever do as regards cycling.

Great download and one I was happy to pay for.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 7:43 am
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I bought the e-book last november or so; double/triple thickness mod on the dishing tool was already in there.

Oops! Must re-read the upgraded books in future 😉

I find (and so do my riding mates) it useful to be able to build and fix wheelsets. Letting the shop do it is missing the point IMO.


 
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LOl I suppose it would be, being an Househusband
Do you keep fish 😉


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 8:25 am
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Built my first wheel with the books help the other day. It is yet to be trued up but its looking ok so far. Better than wheels from bike shops I've had thats for sure.

So its not yet finished yet its better than a bike shop wheel? That's some book that is!


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 10:46 am
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Suppose it's convenience as well (all in one place type thing)- the file/PDF covers everything from making your own tools and truing stand right through to final tension. With all the steps along the way, explains why things are done certain ways, also a couple of things to look for in a wheel that hints at somebody paying attention during the build. The record keeping/measurements section helps me reinforce my bike OCD 😉

To me it's worth £9.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 11:28 am
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<<£9!!! There are countless free web pages on the tinternet explaining how to build wheels, why pay £9 for the same advise??? >>

true, but after looking at all the stuff on the web Roger's book is the best - plus handly that it is all in one nice PDF with pics etc.. plus it has lots of tips and trick etcs..

and £9 is not a lot really for the lebel of information in the book - my two 29wheels are still true after a year of use - so money well spent. So imho well worth the cash


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 11:45 am
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<<Can you tell us the mod? Mine would be double thickness at either end (where it touches the rim). >>

nope not that 😀 hopefuly my mod will be in the new book - roger seemed to like the mod when i sent pics of it


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 11:47 am
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nope not that hopefuly my mod will be in the new book

If it is not in the new book upgrade will you tell us then?!!!


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 1:01 pm
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"Cant see the point Let the shop make them up "

He's right you know, its that kind of attitude thats keeps some of use in work.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 1:52 pm
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Built my first wheel with the books help the other day. It is yet to be trued up but its looking ok so far. Better than wheels from bike shops I've had thats for sure.
So its not yet finished yet its better than a bike shop wheel? That's some book that is!

Yes it is better you don't know who my LBS is do you? They are crap I will only use them in an emergency.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 2:26 pm
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Roger rebuilt one of my wheels recently and suggested I hang around and watch if I wanted.

Struck me as more of an artist/musician than a technology guy. What he built up audibly was spot-on by the jigs. He then proceded to demonstrate three different tension gauges, to show that they never agree anyway!

I was sufficiently impressed to forget any further ideas about building my own. He gets my trade henceforth.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 2:40 pm
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I've managed to build nearly all my wheels without Maestro Musson's help, I'm sure he builds a nice wheel an' all, but it's not [i]really[/i] an art, it's mostly just screwing stuff together, like...


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 2:45 pm
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I've had a similar experience to Ecky-Thump
Roger took a lot of time out whilst building a wheel for me to explain the whole process & his thoughts for doing it the way he does
I have a hard copy of his book & it is easily the best instruction guide I've ever come across

Sadly, I don't thing he does wheel-builds any more & just sells on Hope Hoops that he's QA'd


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 2:46 pm
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He also does free local workshops for peole who have his book. Now I am all for the Torrent personally and the interweb but occasionally little people do some good stuff and they deserve your money
He used to post on here giving wheel building advice as well.
Nice guy worth £9 considering IMHO


 
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Struck me as more of an artist/musician than a technology guy.

Is he the David Brent of wheel building? 😆


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 2:57 pm
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Cant see the point Let the shop make them up

There are 2 points.

1) Because I can, and I want to, and I like to.

2) Because when my hub paked up on a Saturday ride, I was able to go home, strip and old buckled wheel, measure the hub to confirm I had the right spokes, and build said hub into my wheel on the Sunday, then go riding on Tuesday.

At a shop that would have cost me 24 miles worth of fuel (£3), a building charge (£20+??) and 2 hours of my time (More than the actual build time took)
I've built 6 wheels so far from the book. The money I've saved has more than paid for my wheel building jig and dishing tool.
😀


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:11 pm
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Here Here PP 🙂 :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:22 pm
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not much use the shop doing them if your out in the wildnerness and break all the driveside spokes in your wheel have to rebuild it with half spokes just to get you off the mountain!

not me but a friend!


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:28 pm
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not much use the shop doing them if your out in the wildnerness and break all the driveside spokes in your wheel have to rebuild it with half spokes just to get you off the mountain!

So, he was carring cassette tools with him was he....? 🙂


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:32 pm
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Personally I'm not convinced building one's own wheels saves [i]that[/i] much, last Xmas I fancied building a 20mm XT hub onto a rim, all the individual parts from CRC were £10 more than the equivalent ready build one from them, and CRC build a good wheel...

I build wheels, mostly 'cause I want to, but I'm not going to pay more for the privilege.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 3:43 pm
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CRC build a good wheel...

eh? CRC being the machine that does the building? I am a good customer of CRC but their wheel builds are average.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 5:59 pm
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LOL PP a saving of £ 23 quid or thirty
Just put a spare set on and give them to the shop.
Just cant see the point.
Do you keep fish too


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 6:10 pm
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For me it's not about saving money - I know exactly how the wheels were built and can fix/replace as and when I require.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 7:36 pm
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LOl I suppose it would be, being an Househusband
Do you keep fish

WTF? Read my profile, dimwit - I'm a teacher.


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 10:49 pm
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Oh you Teach fish Nice kinda Koi wouldnt one say 😉


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 11:00 pm
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What is with you and fish, grantway?!


 
Posted : 28/10/2009 11:02 pm
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also I found building wheels very calming after a crap week at work..

I made a truing stand buy getting some old forks from a local shop and mounting them in a workmate


 
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Sounds all Fishy to me Househusband

Rootes1 You keep Fish too or is this just an Outer London experiance


 
Posted : 29/10/2009 12:34 pm
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There's a lot of crap talked about wheelbuilding! I built wheel in shops for 5 years or so, and built my own before that. I built wheel for downhill teams, road teams and everyone else. It's not an art, there's no mystery to it, you don't even need a jig, just run your bike upside down. Screw the nipples up, true the wheel, stress relieve, repeat. There, takes half an hour and I haven't trued mine up for 3 years. I don't keep fish and I'm not a househusband.


 
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LOL myfatherwasawolf Na but you was either a Miner or the Local Village
You say I built wheel, i built wheel in shops.
Stress relieve repeat there? Bit of a strong right hand going there mate


 
Posted : 29/10/2009 11:05 pm