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[Closed] Alfine vs 1x10

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I have a 32:18 alfine 8 and I’m wondering how that compares to a 1x10 setup? I’ve a 3x9 that I’m tempted to go 1x10 to offset the weight of a dropper post – I’m used to big gaps and grinding so would it be worth it?

Anyone with real life experience or who can tell me the theoretical differences?


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 11:50 am
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Alfine 8 has a range of 307%

An 11-36 cassette has a range of 327%

So a 1x10 with the 11-36 will have a wider range and on average, smaller jumps between the gears than the alfine 8.

Alfine 8
Gear 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Ratio 0.527 0.644 0.748 0.851 1.000 1.223 1.419 1.615

So using your 32:18 gearing, you multiply all those numbers by 1.78 (32 divided by 18) for your overall ratio - eg 0.93 to 2.87

An 11-36 1x10 with 32 chainring has a range of 0.89 to 2.91 (32/36 to 32/11)

So this would mean that the 1x10 has a slighly lower lowest (easiest) gear but a slightly harder/faster highest gear


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 11:57 am
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Of course you can move the range where you want it with alfine by changing the sprocket size - your more restricted with 1x10 to a higher range.

1x10 would have been no good for me with the steep hills I ride on.

however, 1x10 with one of those 42T cassette conversions + clutch mech + N/W chain ring looks quite tempting. But wasn't available when I was building up the Alfine bike.


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:06 pm
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Isn't there a limit on the lowest ratio you're supposed to run with an alfine for risk of the torque tearing it to pieces (or at least wearing it out very fast)


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:08 pm
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Cheers clubber - I love maths so that is exactly what I'm looking for, The 1x10 is actually slightly lower and slightly higher with a more even spread than the Alfine 8.

:badger:

1x10 it is - Chain device from superstar and some shorter crank bolts I think.


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:13 pm
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Clubber - Not on the 8 speed


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:13 pm
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Some say there is - some say there isn't

I run 32 x 21
Its the only setup that would work for me - and still involves a bit of grunting on the steepest climbs.

I went for the Alfine 8 so if it blows up the experiment hasn't cost me a fortune.

2 months in - working well (frantically touching wood)


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:14 pm
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I recall that TJ ran his with a granny ring for strathpuffer, admittedly being careful not to overload it and it seemed to survive.


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:19 pm
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I'm liking is so far though - running it full suss and the silence is golden when blatting through rock gardens - brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 🙂

All I do is hose it down after mucky rides - no need for meticulous cleaning 🙂

I can (or feel like I can) feel the slight inefficiency in my granny gear though which is a bit annoying. On the plus side its getting me super fit and when I ride my 'normal' bike im flying!


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:20 pm
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FWIW I ran an 11 speed Alfine with a standard two ring crank set-up on my fatbike last winter and nothing went bang.


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:21 pm
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I've heard/read of one person buggering the clutch but he was 300lb and grinding up a hill in (22:20), so pretty extreme as I'm 220lb and ride a up 95% of everything as I am. A few have dropped the gearing right down for the strathpuffer? (in snow anyhows) without a problem.


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:39 pm
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22:20
wow

0.5797 - can you even balance at that speed?


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 12:46 pm
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Would have to think so I guess - was an american fella looking to get fit and knew it was way over the limit (it might even have been a red band nexus thinking about it - was over 5 years ago when I was building up my alfine mtb).


 
Posted : 10/01/2014 1:03 pm