[Closed] A whole new level of bull****

"A phobia of symmetry"

It used the rrraaad system?

Sounds like they've used Siri for the Voiceover!

I like the look of that but not sure about that bolt that between the 2 seatstays behind the seat tube, didnt look like it gives much tyre clearance.

"Unquestioned mountain bike experience"? What the hell does that mean? Can I use that in a job interview?

It's the same people who write and voice the 'worldwide' adverts you get on Eurosport and aeroplanes isn't it?

I think it looks pretty good, I prefer bikes with two triangles.

I agree the clamp bolt is a bit close to that rear tyre though.

Ooooo infinite precision!

Failed the test. That voice!

They were taught by this guy.

The Ellsworth School of Martketing BS

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unquestioned mountain bike experience

Grrr.…. what does that mean? My Mum's mountain bike experience has never been questioned either, doesn't mean I'd trust her to design a bike.

And I suppose I'm questioning it now? So that's p'ed right on their chips....

Wow. "You have the unbelievable feeling of riding a road bike" ! That's as far as I got. Exactly what you want from a mountain bike eh?!
Good find that man. 😆

So under all that guff it's a single pivot design with a bottom bracket layout that looks destined to be forever creaky. I wonder how much?

This guy (or someone very similar) does the voice over to the CBT videos at work. At least you have a choice to watch this!

I've watched two or three videos of carbon frame moulding, out of curiosity over how they do it but I'm still none the wiser about how they join the two halves together and get the mat to overlap because none of the videos show this part of the process.

Here's one with some cringeingly hammy and egotistical acting from Mario Cipollini:

notice how the heavily gelled hair remains perfectly styled! Someone on Cycle Chat whose opinion I respect says he rode a Cipollini and it was awful, it handled like a dog.

Thanks batfink, enjoyed that vid.

My bike has none of those features is it still safe to ride?

My bike has none of those features is it still safe to ride?

Absolutely not, dispose of immediately.

Saw this a few months back. Comedy gold.

This guy (or someone very similar) does the voice over to the CBT videos at work. At least you have a choice to watch this!

Compulsory Basic Training or Cognitive Behavioural Therapy?

The latter would make for odd viewing...

Lets be honest, it's probably a 5 grand bike, aimed at a city boy roady who already has a Dogma road bike and full Rapha Team Sky kit.

I was all ready to hate that in a "WTF do a bunch of roadies know about building mountain bikes?" kind of way but there's some really nice touches on there. I'm not convinced about all of it and it's definitely a roadies mountainbike but I do like some of their thinking. The acronym for everything and markettingbull gets a bit daft but I can see it probably made more sense before it was translated.

I like the seatpost clamp idea. Though never had a problem with the more normal way of doing it.

The fork stopper thing is rubbish, though. They've still kinked the down tube, they've just put a rubber stopper under it. Anyway, the problem isn't that some frames don't have a front triangle, it's specifically that they do - the head tube isn't a single point, it's a tube that's trying to bend backwards so the whole area needs to be stiffened, and how you do that is a design decision.

Made me think of this:

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I thought he said penisfit, which to be fair does make as much sense as the rest of the BS - good find 🙂

How bizarre. All that money to develop a bike and they can't even be bothered to do a half decent job of translating the sales guff into English. Did the voice-over guy give any though to what he was saying, or just read what he was given?

I lasted as far as 'indestructible'. Only Captain Scarlet is/was indestructible, anything else is fiction.

Phwoar, that's some cheeky groping at 7:06!

What i see there is a mountain bike designed by people who don't regularly ride mountain bikes much!

Why the lower shock mount is on that horrible abortion of a "bracket" cantilevered off the BB is anyone's guess?

And surely the limiting factor for the main triangle down tube "kink" is making sure the front tyre misses it when the fork is compressed?

ARRRRRGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

It started to go downhill at 18 seconds. As soon as he opened his mouth. 4:15 is my bullshit overload is at critical.

Man that's is so gonna make me into a XC demi God!

It did say soemthing about not needing cleaning at around 4.25...

The grammar is awful.

And no mention of wheel size. Bet it's a 29er.... dirty b*stards.

And surely the limiting factor for the main triangle down tube "kink" is making sure the front tyre misses it when the fork is compressed?

It's also good to make sure you don't ding the down tube if the bars spin around.

single pivot ? URT ?

Did anyone see that news story this week where a Rottweiler bred with a West Highland Terrier and produced some odd-looking pups?

This bike looks like the offspring of a road bike and a full-sus. 😀

and it's definitely a roadies mountainbike

I got about 10 secs in. As soon as he said 'Dogma xl' I turned it off. Thats how long it took for me to establish that I couldn't care less! I don't like the look of their road bikes, turns out I don't like the look of their mtb's either.

I quite like it. Am I ill?

Marketing jargon overload! Wonder if they ever questioned how ridiculous that is.

I know of a pro road rider who rode for a team that used Pinarello. He doesn't have much good to say about them. Interestingly he also says many of them prefer their second 'standard geared bike' over the electronic gears.

Is it wrong that I feel ever-so-slightly aroused by this? 😯

This Peenarello aint for me if i can't do tailwhips on it.

Is it wrong that I feel ever-so-slightly aroused by this?

Nope, I think it's a stunning looking bike and seeing as I couldn't ride a Carrera to within an inch of it's life, I have no fear of disproving their marketing guff.

I'd buy it if I had £250 😆

I quite lik the bike. But would need to beat to death, with a sock for of poo, the writer of that script. What is a perfect triangle? This this four side triangle away, it is imperfect, and also remove the two sided one as well.

I haven't got a 1.5 headset plate for my press, and thought instead of spending a tenner to bodge a plate, I'd give back to the LBS.

(And you called earlier to ask if they were OK to fit it).

This.

Dave Weagle is turning in his expensive suit.

Reinventing the wheel is very appropriate here.

I quite like it. Am I ill?

I do as well. Underneath the bull it looks a very interesting bike.

only bit i like the design is where it loads the shock to the BB area, but this would still put other types of load on the seat post tube

if he had an Italian accent I think I could tolerate it. It is pronouced tube man tube. Not ****in tooobes!

Looks fine, definitely erring to xc racing rather than uplifts.

Looks better than the road bikes! not hard mind.

Quite reminiscent of a Trek Fuel.

Whole lotta stroking going on during the manufacturing process eh? Does that cost extra?

That shock mounting on a bolted on 'aluminum' bracket is going to be an issue later in life. I can see it wearing out the bolts, or bracket after a year of use.

A fine display of marketing bollocks. I like the fork stop which will make getting it in the back of the car even more trickier. It's like the purpose built fork stop on the San Andreas I had 10 years ago.