A new bike i'm interested has 1x11 Sram X1. Coming from Shimano i have a few questions about future running costs...
Does your 10-42 cassette last as long as an average 9 speed SLX/XT?
Can i put a standard free hub on a Sram Roam hub?
Will the Sram X1 Type 2 rear derailed work with a 10 speed cassette & shifter?
Bump for lunch...
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Does your 10-42 cassette last as long as an average 9 speed SLX/XT? mine has so far (xtr)
Can i put a standard free hub on a Sram Roam hub? Not if you want to run sram 11 speed
Will the Sram X1 Type 2 rear derailed work with a 10 speed cassette & shifter? dont think so, why would you want to?
I assume, based on q's 2 and 3 that he's considering ditching the lot and going 'back' to 10 speed. So the answer to the hub question is yes - you can change the freehub body.
You would also need a mech though.
Only thinking in case 11 speed cassettes stay very expensive. If they do ill switch to 10 speed for less cost. To do that I'd need to fit a standard freehub body on the roam hub. Love the idea of 1x11 though. The range is perfect for me.
I reckon its about even on the cost of an x1 cassette vs new freehub, mech shifter and cassette, unless you already have them.
Not looked into if but as a guess
60 for the freehub
30 cassette
40 for a clutch mech
35 for a shifter.
pretty sure you could get an x1 cassette for that from ze germans or in a crc sale
True but if I'm getting through 1 a year its quite pricey.
In that case switch out straight away, that way you can sell on the 1x11 as new and get all your 10s stuff 'free'
Will the Sram X1 Type 2 rear derailed work with a 10 speed cassette & shifter?
Although it is pointless, wouldn't you be able to theoretically do this by adjusting the mechs limit screws? Isn't the spacing between the sprockets the same on 10 and 11 speed?
Does your 10-42 cassette last as long as an average 9 speed SLX/XT?
I've never had a cassette last as long as XX1! Really durable things.
Although it is pointless, wouldn't you be able to theoretically do this by adjusting the mechs limit screws? Isn't the spacing between the sprockets the same on 10 and 11 speed?
Allegedly yes - I've not seen it done IRL though.
True but if I'm getting through 1 a year its quite pricey.
IME if you keep on top of chain wear then it'll last fine. If you're doing millions of miles then perhaps budget for more, but I'd expect several thousand miles out of a cassette no problem.
Cool. Thanks everyone.
My friends x01 cassette lasted 9 months. The alloy 42 tooth ring wore out. An Alloy sprocket can't be as durable as a steel one. Did he change his chains enough? Maybe not but his 10sp xt cassette certainly lasted way over a year.
IMO, if you're using the 42t that much then a smaller ring is needed.
[i]True but if I'm getting through 1 a year its quite pricey. [/i]
If you only get through one a year, you're not riding enough 🙂
IMO, if you're using the 42t that much then a smaller ring is needed.
It's a fair opinion but if I'm limited to 11 gears I want to be able to use them all. I'm too tight for the current price of 11 speed, I may as well have a 10 speed cassette and imagine I have an eleventh gear I don't dare use.
It's a fair opinion but if I'm limited to 11 gears I want to be able to use them all
And of course you can, I didn't say that you can't use the 42. I said that if you're spending a disproportionate amount of time in it then a smaller ring would be a wise choice.
No reason it should wear quickly if you're using it 1/11th of the time!
Looking at the ratios i'd hardly use the 42t ring. It would be nice if they introduces more options like a 10-40 or 11 - 40 to be able to run a standard freehub which will enable shimano/sram compatability.
Is the spacing on 11 different to 10?
If you want an 11-40, just get Shimano?
Allegedly the spacing is the same - the cassette being 10% wider, not seen it confirmed though.
I could only run shimano if i fit a standard freehub body.
Gonna see how it runs and wears in the first year. I will only go back from 11 to 10 if:
A.Cassette prices dont drop.
B.Cassette wear is much faster that what i am use to.
C. More ratio choices don't become available.
I can put up with the price if they last longer which sounds like it will. But would really like more choice of ratios.
According to this [url= http://blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/ ]drivetrain magic[/url]
the difference is 0.05mm.
Thats a very useful article. Shimano 7 and 8 speed according to that has a 0.1mm difference but i ran 7 speed shifters on an 8 speed cassette with no problems for years.