Edit: Arse, too late.
I'd not be too disappointed! First rider is off at 7:30 (I'm around 8.15am I think) so it's going to be an early cold start 😕
Have started [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/2016-tting-thread ]a 2016 TT thread here![/url]
Finally got an action shot...
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Not much changed really. New forks. Running the 404 instead of the 808 there. Took a while to get the right spot on the Dash saddle, sit a lot further back on it than the Adamo where I was really perched on the nose. Need to work on my turtle head 🙂
So er, what approx £1000 TT bike? 🙂
I've been looking at the Ribble TT aero with 105 for £1312, or a Dolan Ares 105 for £1400.
Any other recommendations?
Any Fuji Norcoms left at Evans in the sales?? The cheapest were £1400
Yes I was looking at one last night, they have my size. Are they good?
[url= https://www.evanscycles.com/fuji-norcom-2-5-eu-2016-triathlon-bike-EV241913 ][/url]
Hmm. Bb86. I need to check if my infocrank - which went into a BB30 shell - is comparable. I'd prefer to ride with power than RPE
Reviews are ok though. I'm guessing tiagra is not really an issue at my level and it'll look good with my 50's on.
There must be a load of sh TT stuff for sale?
Is the buzz from TT improvement of your time yes? Which you could get without any purchasing 😛
Is there any data on the aero watts saved on an old steel 80s bike vs the latest?
For gods sake, it feels like Mrs K has convinced this entire place to work against my N+1
I have a Norcom and running 30 mm Rotor flow in it with hope PF 41 bb that has been flawless.
🙂 Well my old PX frame is still in the shed. Still not got around to putting it on the classifieds. Got a base bar, a selection of stems, TT shifters, and a load of assorted parts.
would it fit me - 5'11.5 & 33 inseam. I have wheels, but I needs to be BB30 for the PM.
It was a bit small for me so you should be fine. It's a bsa bb but i think praxis or rotor do a bsa bb that takes a 30mm crank.
I spent last night trawling eBay, possible to get a decent PX for £500 there.
A thought... Halfords have the Boardman Team TT (Alu, Apex) for £799 or £720 with a BC discount. It occurs to me that it might be ok for the part time TTer such as me. I wouldn't be bothered about the OEM wheels as my 50's would go on on it.
Any good?
Crikey I just read Triathlons review. They rave about it a bit.
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BOARDMAN VS MODA “The Boardman is £200 cheaper but it feels like twice the bike… Add some aero wheels and you’ll be away." Looking to start your tri bike journey? Here we put two entry-level £1K steeds from Moda and Boardmanon the road – and in a timed test – to find your first multipsort two-wheel love.
BOARDMAN TEAM TT
Boardman know aero and, of course, have a long association with triathlon as well as Chris Boardman’s own exploits. Australian Pete Jacobs rode their AiR TT9.8 to Ironman world championship glory in 2012, while Britain’s Joe Skipper broke the Ironman Texas course record on the brand’s AiR TTE in 2015. So you have to think that this tri-specifc aero understanding also went into the Team TT and that Boardman wouldn’t be willing to put his name on a bike that merely looks aero. Our timed test suggested that’s certainly the case as, with no obvious advantage in its build, the Boardman went over a minute faster than the Moda at the same power, on the same evening, in the same kit. This, then, is a proper race bike.
THE BUILD
The Team TT is the entry model in Boardman’s range and the only aluminium frame. The downtube, seat tube and seatpost are all aero profled,as is the full carbon fork. The head tube is short socheck you can achieve your ideal stack height – fvesizes, two more than Moda offer, will help.Even after nine years, we’re still impressed byBoardman’s ability to use their direct sales modelto provide exceptional equipment on their bikes atevery price point. The Team TT has a SRAM Apexgroupset, Vision cockpit and an ISM Adamo saddle,the latter an especially praiseworthy andcomfortable inclusion that shows they reallyunderstand triathlon.The rear brake is tucked out of the wind behindthe bottom bracket and the gearing is racy –53/39, 11-26. Wheels are always a compromise atthis price and the Boardman is no exception. Whilethe own-brand 30mm rims have a small aeroprofle, the wheels should still be your frstupgrade. This is an assumption that Boardmanmake right through the range as every modelcomes on training wheels.
THE RIDE
Bikes at this price have to be worthy of upgrading so that you don’t outgrow them too fast if the bug for tri really bites, and Boardman have nailed it. The Team TT doesn’t feel like a wannabe, nor a cynically specced niche-plugger; this is the real deal. The frame is stiff under power and handles with encouraging neutrality so you’ll soon be carving around roundabouts in the extensions. There’s some lateral fork fex but only when out of the saddle and climbing aggressively. The wheels are the weak link, of course. They’re stiff but heavy and slow. Again, they’re fine for training but don’t race on them; as always, budget for some proper aero wheels. Thus equipped, the Team TT will, we promise you, be faster than any two-, four-, even six-grand bike on its original training wheels. A broad aero clincher wheelset with 25c tyres will also smooth the frm ride a lot. Otherwise, the Team TT is ready to race and won’t need upgrading any time soon. The ISM saddle is brilliant, and the Vision cockpit is both aero and accommodating, too. The base bar has a proper wing profle and also some compliance over poor roads, while the dense pads stay comfortable on long rides, though they don’t match the shape of the rests as neatly as they could. There’s loads of easy adjustability but you might want to swap the extensions to J-bends for a more natural wrist angle. The SRAM Apex drivetrain delivers crisp shifting and well-spaced ratios. We missed the closer stack of an 11-speed cassette during the timed test but you could fx that with an 11-23 set-up for fatter courses. The Boardman’s time of 23:35mins in our 10-mile TT test really put the Moda in its place, and is impressive given the road helmet we were wearing and the basic wheels. With an aero helmet and wheels it could probably go a minute and a half faster for the same power (323W). That course isn’t remotely quick, either, but the Boardman is.
HANDLING 85%
Good steering, stability, power transfer and speed
SPEC 88%
Vision bar and ISM saddle are highlights; no weak links
VALUE 91%
Proves you can have great performance for under £1k
COMFORT 92%
Really good bar and great saddle start you off right
VERDICT 89%
THE BUILD
The challenge for manufacturers at this price is controlling the cost without compromising performance too far. Moda has a slight advantage because it has its own Barelli component brand and its parent company is the UK agent for American Classic wheels, so both adorn the Mossa. The American Classic Victory wheels, shod with Kenda Kontender Lite tyres, are not very racy; they have 24/28 spokes and a shallow 25mm profle. If that lot saved money, it hasn’t
BOARDMAN V MODA
OVERALL VERDICT
The Boardman is £200 cheaper but it feels like twice the bike and then some. It’s built to a price and runs basic wheels, naturally, but nothing else about it will hold you back. It’s geared for racing, the contact points are outstanding and the geometry is tri-friendly. Add some second-hand aero wheels and you’ll be away. Tri bikes at this price have greater duties than simply providing immediate value. They also have to be worth upgrading and able to keep pace as your ftness develops. But more than that, they should feel inspiring and exciting, a gateway to the next level of multisport competition. The Boardman is a shining example of that.
Review in 220 Triathlon, July 2016 [/i]
Budget for a respray. It looks awful.
TT isn't a glamour competition though is it.
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PF30 too - my M30 praxis / infocrank should go straight in there.
Eye of the beholder I suppose. I'm tempted by it too, but I would have to get it resprayed....might be my next project
Argh you made me read a bike review!
My God that is so full of shit!
PX Exocets are an ebay staple, always a few up there, and it's a well-quoted bike. You'd get one for just under a grand with a TT wheelset if you are prepared to be patient, wait for one local etc.
Full of sit about the bike or the General journalist vocabulary?
the notion that one bike is so much better. fork flex. faster.
youve got a road bike don't you?
the notion that one NEEDS a TT bike ton do tts.
seems this place is about buying bikes rather than riding them.
I don't NEED one. I WANT one though. 🙂
Get ye over. The TT forum. This is he time to buy. TT bikes have a very easy life. Or if you want some kind hing classic, go for steel And a disc wheel.
I don't really see the point of buying a TT bike unless you're already doing properly fast times on a standard road bike.
no intrest in tt trialing whatsoever...
but the bikes look awesome, that build looks so fast it almost looks like cheating!
Same as there being no point buying a full sus bike unless your properly fast already in your rigid bike?
Since when has 'need' been the prerequisite rationale for buying a new bike? There is no need. Only want...
Same as there being no point buying a full sus bike unless your properly fast already in your rigid bike?
Far more reasons for getting a full sus, only one of which may be going faster.
There is no need. Only want...
Very true
I don't really see the point of buying a TT bike unless you're already doing properly fast times on a standard road bike.
There's a lot of people on here on with mountain bikes way above thier station. If your genuine weekend warrior can go and by a £5k Santa Cruz, or splash £3k on the latest de facto small English business named Ti Long travel HT, why can't a rider with an interest in time trials spend £700 on an appropriate bike?
Not your money, is it.
Not your money, is it.
You're right, it's not 🙂
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CRC have a Fuji Aloha 1.1 for £549. Oval concepts kit, mix of 2015 105 and tiagra but a Compact chainset. Not sure I'm down with the Blue colours, looks even more budget than the boardman.
I don't think the aloha would be much better than a decent road bike with aero bars?
I got fed up with my own dithering over the past few weeks, so I just bought the Boardman.
Lets hope it takes at least 10secs of my 10 next year, otherwise I'll throw a Diva strop 😀
Picked up he bike yeaterday. Very pleased despite the ignomy of having to be seen collecting and carrying a bike through Halfords.
Much better in the flesh, and the garden test reveals so much more of a comfortable postion than clip ons on the Road bike - i think due to the shorter TT in the main. The tube profiles are amazing, with a real knife like shape to the down tube and deep yet narrow forks. The bike looks less green in real life also. Tomorrow morning shall be an exercise fit and in torque wrenching everything after tha Halfords Expert build though, just to be sure 🙂
Photos????!!!
You can see it just as well on the website, I'm not a good photographer so probably couldn't do it justice. Besides, I'm in a strop at the moment (see other thread of this date/time)
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Ok, so my Infocrank PM wont fit on my Boardman TT. I got quite used to working with power last year. What the scoop for a TTer on a budget? Is there a budget crank/pedal PM or qhats the best way without power - RPE?
Why would you drop straight to RPE if you couldb't fit a PM? For a fairly steady state effort, I've found that heart rate will get you in the right kind of ball park and then possibly RPE and experience of having ridden a few.
Cheapest power meter that I know of is a 4iii 105 crank arm for £350?
Of course i can use HR i forgot to mention that. Barring being cautious as the start, i guess i can monitor HR and use RPE on the 10's. I know my threshold HR & associated levels so should be able to roughly ascertain a level for 25's using the "bit over on the ups, bit under on the downs" methods.
Why won't your Infocrank fit? Isn't the frame BB30? Should just need a new bottom bracket.
This is a good point which i cant understand either, The Bianchi is BB30 and has the praxis BB to go with the Infocrank. The Boardman is PF30, I dont understand why one wont go in the other. I really wanted the PM on the Boardman.
I pick the up from the shop tomorrow. The Infocrank will be out as the Bianchi has to go for warranty inspection without it. Ill try to get an explanation.
