[url] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25149 [/url]
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isn't there a new all singing all dancing uber LED due out soon?
Oooo nice!
Yep there is
Troutie is in the process of building a light for me and is holding off finishing for the new leds
Was wondering when they'd get around to a proper bike version
Worth buying? How long for it to you think?
is that the same as the p7 torch jobbie that was all the rage last winter?
think it might well be
No don't think so as the torch only has a run time of 60 to 90 minutes. Regardless it must be worth hanging on until it gets dark again so they have a chance to put the newer brighter LED in the chassis, so you can get longer run times
if ordered now , would I get it before MM ?
*presses order button*
I'll stick with my 1000lumen for £40 i got last year, 4 Q5 torches, shortened, weigh 58 each with soldered wires and battery clips.
2aa = 2 hours per "torch", 2 torches = whiteout in all but very dense woodland.
found i could tilt them further back, so the center of my vision was away from the central spot, which was then diluted by the distance. Frankly though I prefer just one (250lumen) and 8 hour run times 🙂 as theres no need to pick out details as far ahead as a 1000 lumen spot lets you!
Still using P7's here.
(Young children = v-late / v-early rides!!!)
Looks good.
i bought a p7 for my father-in-law for xmas and was very impressed, but never managed to order one myself. now waiting for the fist of the 'must buy super torch' threads that'll signal the coming of winter! : )
Forgive my ignorance, but 900lumens = how many watts of the old style non HID lights?
I bought a P7 off this forum for £40, works brilliant! Usually run it in low power and its plenty.
I think they'd be the equivalent of a 40w halogen or a 20w HID? 900Lumens is very bright, but it'll be interesting to see what the throw is like.
I'm going to get one if the dollar weakens against the pound..
for sale !redundant soldering iron 🙄
This is probably a numpty question but what about the converter for usa to uk plugs ? is it ok to just use a regular one for the charger ?
Hi Mark
Funnily I was just shoe horning the Maxflex into the Hope last weekend .
do you def want to wait for the new leds . could be july august when they are available.
Just looked at the close up of the charger, it's rated 100-240V 50/60Hz, so just a travel plug adapter will do, plus you can use it worldwide.
nice one midlifecrashes.
"No don't think so as the torch only has a run time of 60 to 90 minutes."
This light uses the same battery, but the torch uses one while this light has 4- hence longer burn times.
I've got a pair of the torches, and they're as good as the hype- better than 9/10s of "proper" bike lights. Need to see exactly what the optics are like in this to see if it works as well as they do though but there's no reason it shouldn't.
I think they usually ship an adapter with them.
no you need to order an adapte off them, or just cut off the plug and wire on a UK one...
Loosk good, but i actually like my P7 torch rather than a 'proper' (limited) bike light, as it lives in my coat packet when not on the bike....
yea i tried my p7 for the first time this week. Fantastic light.
tho the 5 mode gets on my nerves.
wonder what tesco have planned for next winter!! : )
How long do orders from these guys take to arrive?
Am I going to get stung for import and VAT?
SSS, can take 10 days to 3 week depending on how busy they are.
Not one of us got stung for VAT ... 8 odd orders, with one being for 5 torches & associated kit (so quite big and expensive an order), though they tend to come through in two lots.... batteries and chargers first and then the torch (for the clasic P7 obviously).
I've bought a fair bit of stuff from DealExtreme. If its in stock takes about 7 days, otherwise can be up to 2 weeks. In my experience if its saying despatch in 2-5 days on the website, then it'll be about 10 days.
No import tax to pay, at least I've never had any problems ordering up to £45 or so anyway.
An 18650 cell will give you about 1hr 5 mins on max all the time, if your flicking between max / med I've had 2hrs before now.
They're not quite 900 lumens, more like about 750. I had a Hope HID (10w) before & the P7 just had the edge. As for a comparison with halogens, I reckon your closer to 50-60 watts.
The one to go for is the SKU12060. I tried a 2 mode one but both had to go back so changed to the 5-mode (SKU12060). Have been in use since Nov last year with no problems.
Using them is a compromise, make no mistake, & if I could afford a Hope 4 LED thats what I'd have.
Mounting them is just as effective with zip ties & a bit if innertube as it is with the Fenix Lock-Block mounts costing £8 or so.
Thanks for that.
There is a bit of a review on one over here
[url] http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=5721023&posted=1#post5721023 [/url]
The guy has had it in bits and is not too impressed
Are these new LEDs being mentioned the XP-G or something else? Went and had a look on CPF seeing them mentioned here, and whilst they're brighter, I'm not convinced they're that huge a leap forwards.
Hi Trout
Not sure about the leds, roughly what output are we looking at for the existing leds compared to the new ones?
How much is too much light?
900 lumens is the equivalent of a 50W MR16 downlight. All depends on the beam angle though....
Also depends whether you really get 900 lumens from a "900 lumen light"!
I've ordered one. It'll be interesting to compare to my other lights.
Should really do some eBaying before they're worthless 🙂
Just ordered too 🙂 Can't be any worse than my old lumicycle lights anyway!
I've got a helmet mounted Light & Motion Stella 200 which it pretty handy, and an old set of Lumicycle 10w/12w halogens set up on the bars at the moment.
Hang on, it's summer! Why am I blowing my hard earned on lights?!
"Also depends whether you really get 900 lumens from a "900 lumen light"! "
You probably don't, the emitter is capable of it but chances are you don't actually get it. The SSC P7 torches have been put at 600-700 by people who know how to work this stuff out, which is still a lot of light.
Or alternatively, if that's not enough, you can buy about 8 for the price of a Lupine Betty or Light and Vision Seca 😯 But you might set fire to the trees.
takisawa2 do you mean [url= http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12060 ]This one?[/url]
Does that come with a battery and charger or do you have to get them separately?
I'll stick with the Troutie tripple header..
the emitter is capable of it
Actually it's probably not - and certainly not at the claimed input current. [b]Maximum[/b] is 900lm at 2.8A, yet they're only supposedly running these at 2.4A.
Hmm, that reads like you're disagreeing with me but if the maximum is 900lm then the emitter IS capable of it 😉 It's just not going to be doing it in this light.
Be interesting to see the beamshots for this
if the maximum is 900lm then the emitter IS capable of it
No, you're misunderstanding the use of the word "maximum" (easily done with LED specs). 900lm is the maximum any LED of that type will do - the vast majority, possibly all of them won't. I'd guess that a typical one would only manage 800.
Who cares what the output really is. I have a P7 torch, and the amount of light it puts out is astonishing for a $38 torch. The P7 bike light is only £50. With batteries. And a charger. Plus it mounts with o-rings, just like a £600 Lupine. I bought one of the Airbike P7 lights from On-One, and my £20 P7 torch has a much better 'throw' than the Airbike, which was over £100! Also I had to then get a better clamp from Lumicycle. I really can't see any issues with a light of this output for £50. C'mon people, this is a bargain by anyone's standards.
Countzero, only possible downside is if it suddenly goes out as you're about to hit a big drop or a corner and you die 
Oh, and the throw might be rubbish of course. I guess we'll see once more people have them.
aracer: "No, you're misunderstanding the use of the word "maximum" (easily done with LED specs). 900lm is the maximum any LED of that type will do - the vast majority, possibly all of them won't. I'd guess that a typical one would only manage 800."
I'm not misunderstanding at all, I'm not sure you read my post fully? I said "the emitter is capable of it but chances are you don't actually get it. The SSC P7 torches have been put at 600-700 by people who know how to work this stuff out, which is still a lot of light." The P7 emitter certainly is capable of it in theory, but that doesn't mean it's what you'll get in this installation (for various reasons, not least the variation from one LED to another) TBH we actually seem to be agreeing.
Count zero and Northwind have hit it on the head
for £50 it is a super light .and the light manufacturers must be pretty pissed off , myself included
you cant buy the bits for that money .
It could get more folks into night riding for the price of a meal and a few beers .
the problems I see are it is not waterprof as the guy who dismantled one has stated , and it is not good thermally , but it should do the winter season then the board will corrode and next season probably not work . and we wont mention the green tint .
but as they will have thousands of P7s to get rid of now some really cool leds are about to be released . Expect some very cheap deals coming out of china
I look forward to some reviews from the folks who have ordered them .
I'm not misunderstanding at all, I'm not sure you read my post fully? I said "the emitter is capable of it but chances are you don't actually get it. The SSC P7 torches have been put at 600-700 by people who know how to work this stuff out, which is still a lot of light." The P7 emitter certainly is capable of it in theory, but that doesn't mean it's what you'll get in this installation (for various reasons, not least the variation from one LED to another)
Actually, you still are. 900lm is simply what they guarantee none of these LEDs will produce more than - I see no reason to expect that any of them are actually capable of that.
but as they will have thousands of P7s to get rid of now some really cool leds are about to be released .
As I asked before, what LED? If you're talking about the XP-G, then I see no reason why that's about to obsolete the P7.
"Actually, you still are. 900lm is simply what they guarantee none of these LEDs will produce more than - I see no reason to expect that any of them are actually capable of that."
And I'm not saying they will be either. Not much point in carrying this conversation on I think as you just don't seem to be reading what I've written 😛
I'm pretty sure most of the torches that riders have bought from DX and have been using perfectly happily aren't waterproof, but some silicon grease around various threads and o-rings will keep moisture out, and anything other than total immersion is unlikely to cause damage. Why are people who are more than happy to shout about using a torch which you have to cobble together a mount for now bitching about a purpose-built light with all the bits you need, using the exact same emitter, that cost just double what one torch with no batteries and no charger costs. There's no consistency here, DX lights are nowhere near the quality construction-wise of a Fenix, but plenty are prepared to sacrifice that quality for a product that does the same job for a fraction of the price, allowing a number of lights to be bought and used for both bar and head mounted lights. For almost two thirds the price of a Joystick you can buy two very bright lights, capable of allowing quality night riding for the majority of riders. Who actually gives a rat's ass whether it gives out 700 rather than 900 Lm, when people are perfectly happy to use much more expensive lights with lower outputs? If Trout, who I give credit to as someone who really has a clue thinks it's a bargain, then why should anyone else be sniffy about it? Christ, there have been countless threads about how good a ten quid torch from Tesco is!
Accept it for the absolute bargain that it is, use it 'til it pegs out then buy the next bargain that comes along and use the money you save to buy beer and lighten up. (Pun intended).
hey lads lighten up a bit
My Picasso give 90 bhp yea right, it may well do on a perfect engine but not a mass produced engine with the production tolerance. Get my point
The Lupine tesla has a output of 700 lumin with the P7 emitter so that [b]maybe[/b] 🙄 more accurate
I have done a Lux (not this lumin guessing bollucks) test of my P7 torch and it was alot read 2x the output of my Hid.
I will be ordering a £53 P7 unit from deal extreme fug all to loose
Ive been out night riding with Takisawa2 and his dammed P7 - he can ride behind me and I can still see better with his light better than I can with Blackburn X6 and Hope Solo that I use...
My P7 arrived this Saturday gone.. I must say that Deal Extreme is very good... order tracking etc.. no problems
I ordered P7, 2 batteries, charger and mount for bike.. $58 dorrars or converted to just over £39 squid...
The charger I got takes the ordinary mains lead from a radio etc commomnly used on video player etc ? standard connector ? no need for adaptors... ive kept the lead taht came with it if I ever go abroad etc.
Just got my light will see whats its like when its dark.
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Looking forward to your findings...
Me too milkybar kid.
And GrahamA, sorry mate missed your question...yes, that's the one.
So is it alloy or plastic?
Looks like good value though 🙂
Got mine today as well, nice alloy body, 2 o-rings between the lense and lamp body, glass lense and seems well finished. My only complaint was the seal on
the cable into the light body was not pushed in(was after a few minutes fiddling),
had a look tonight and beam seems pretty impressive!
Could anyone who has one, post some beam pics please?
I've ordered one and hust wanted to see if I wasted my cash or not!
Ta
Has this thread died?
MBK & gamo have them, & have so far not said much, do I take it that your not impressed?
not used mine yet!
i have had a really quick look in the garden and the beam
seems good.
The-milkybar-kid got a set for sale on [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/900-Lumin-P7-Bike-light_W0QQitemZ260422792657QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportsLeisure_Cycling_Bike_Lights?hash=item3ca26875d1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A16%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50 ]ebay![/url]
The-milkybar-kid got a set for sale on ebay
Why???????
60 quid posted !!!!!!
Anyone got one, and how good is it looking for an upgrade for my old cateye unit which is long overdue replacement
Yep excellent light i got 2 so selling one its only on the bay for £60 to try & cover the fees,£50 posted to anyone on here.
Mailed you Milky.
I'm at a loss as to why The-milkybar-kid is selling a set at below cost, why not just order one set in the first place?
Mine are on route, I ordered over a week ago when they didn't have stock, but it got posted a few days ago.
I guess I'll have to wait & see.
Trout, if they are really badly put together, would you be willing to sort it as per MTBR for a reasonable fee?
Cheers.
2u2r
Would love to disect one , was going to get one but will now wait for one to need improving .
If your genuinely interested, then I'll send it straight to you, it's not like I'll need it anytime soon, there is nowt wrong with my Lumi set up 😉
I orderd 2 for the mayhem in 2 weeks i wanted 2 on the bars but 1 is plenty,its like the P7 torch i have but a wider beam,so i will have 1 on the bars & the torch on the lid spot on.
2unfit2ride
Yes my interest is genuine . and now I have decyphered your email
will be in touch .
Milkybar kid
any chance of a beam shot in the garden
with a bike in for reference.
trout if you get hold of one and are able to upgrade it let me know how and how much as i am looking at getting one and may like you to 'fix' it for me.
cheers mate
Trout, I'll send it as soon as I get it, just mail me your addy.
Cheers.
In case your struggling with the likes of yahoo, its as per my profile @gmail.com, or googlemail.com if you prefer.
Cheers.
Anyone got some beam pics to post please? Still waiting for mine to be delivered 🙄