[Closed] 29ers.... who has the lightest ? and what ratio's do people use

ride some and find out .....

"ride some and find out ..... "

how helpful.

STW in action.

My Kona is pretty light at 20.4lb SS

My Scandal dips under 20lb depending what tyres and handlebars I'm running. Ratio 32:18 in summer, 32:22 for winter or 24 hour races.

Mines 18lb think my mates is just over 17 and I use 32 16 😀

ringo - what are you and your mates running to get 18 and just over 17 on a 29er - rigid ?

i have a carbon framed 26er with allover light kit at 18 - although has sids on

my new ragley td-1 should be 22lbs with a rohloff and a brooks when i get round to assembling it(if the rims i ordered ever arrive) - have not even contemplated what it will be with an SS rear wheel !

as for my ride some and see comment - well if all he is interested in is having the lightest bike - no bother get internet reccomendations . if he wants a bike that rides well then he needs to ride a few 29ers have even more permutations on geometry than 26ers and some ride better than others. - but your opinion will be different ...

give a vague question get a vague answer !

Mine's 28lbs (real, not wishful thinking...). Geared with
32/22 and 11-34 which is maybe a little low but not awfully so.
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my scandal ranges from 21.5-23 lbs depending on seat, tyre and fork combo. Current set up with a 33*-20 ratio, 2.25 nobby nics and u-turn frankenforks is a 10.29 kg so 22.7 lbs (ish)

* I run a rotor eliptical chainring and they are superb for singlespeeds, they are even bringing a ss specific ring out next year

hi Trail rat im telling porkies, in reality i reckon mines around 20lb its a sir niner with niner carbon forks paul comp hubs and cranks, stans tubeless thomson kit. Im running 32 20 at the moment (couldnt be arsed to change since D2D) normally run 32 18 though. my mates bike is sub 20lb though its a singular ti prototype thing with nice kit sand niner carbon forks

Tazzy you up for a ride next wednesday?

Singlespeed Swift with Rebas = 26 lbs
On one Ti 29er 3 x 9 XTR, Fox F100s = 24 lbs

yep should be mate, I'm riding like a complete mary at the moment so you'll have to be gentle with me 😀

The TD-1 I borrowed for Kielder and HTN, with carbon rigids and SS, weighed naff all. 32:18.

no probs ill email ya mate 😀 havent been riding myself much recently either

mmmm i love niners ! if only niner made a 420mm fork !

yeah its a great fork the box it came in weighed more than the fork 😀

dammit clubber - not a lightweight bike there. My Sultan weighs 30lbs all up. Not sure about the ScandAL.

Yeah, though it is a real 28lbs... Thing is there's nothing obviously heavy on it.

mustang rims , steel frame , forks arent light , slx chainset isnt light

all adds up , but like you say nothing overly obviously heavy

XL Scandal with rigid forks and X9/Deus, 27 gears weighs........dunno, don't have the time nor inclination to weigh it - 24lb?

Just finished putting together my Niner Air 9 Carbon, it's a medium running 3x10 XT and is 24.5 lbs
Rock Shox Reba RLT forks
Formula The One brakes with 160 Rotors
Thomson Stem/Seatpost
Fizik Gobi Saddle
Ritchey Carbon Bars
Hope Ceramic BB
Stans Arch Rims with Hope Pro II Hubs
Maxxis Crossmark/Ardent
XTR 980 Race pedals
Got to admit i was a little miffed when i weighed it, however it wasn't built as a weight weenie exercise, it has to be useable and durable? i am 94kg!

if you want weight weenie light get a 26" wheeled bike.

If you want light for monster hoops, the niners are lovely although the new on-one carbon 29er looks ace as well if you can stand the "tesco value" stigma of owning an on-one with all the niche whores about on the forum.

niche whores

😯 Pics??

Singular Swift, 25.1 lb in rigid SS guise. Currently 33:18.

If its of use, weighed my Scandal frame 16" at 1585g... its the older one.

Dunno what it weighs, its not light but its great 😉 running 32-18
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sweet,is anyone running xx reba 29ers? or single or double front set ups?
Bruce

I think this guy possibly has the lightest geared one:

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12737109&highlight=lynskey+lefty ]here, at bikeradar[/url]

I built it for him. It's about 21 pounds and cost about 6 and a half grand... ouch!

i was looking to get under 20....for an xl
for under 3000 and i reckon i will easy

As a singlespeed you'll probably get change from £3k. His was also an XL BTW.

with tub wheels and 2x10 gears...ill try

Tallboy with new 2x10XTR and stans wheels comes in sub 25.

Not the cheapest option right enough !

Bruce, drop me a line. I have a fisher superfly in xl I'll be selling when the Scale 29er arrives. Mint cond, reba xx's etc. Lots cheaper than £3k also 😉

Dave.

trail_rat - Member
mustang rims , steel frame , forks arent light , [b]slx chainset isnt light[/b]

all adds up , but like you say nothing overly obviously heavy

XTR chainset, I'll have you know 😉

Forks, not particularly light but are there any light 29er forks? The Suntours are slightly lighter than Rebas (IIRC - I'll check when I get the Reba replacements...)

And since it hasn't been posted yet, here's the lightest at 13lbs ish though with silly gearing:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=656281

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My Pegasus was 23.5 lbs in this setup...

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Could easily shave 3 or 4 pounds off I reckon with different brakes/bars/seatpost/rims/rigid fork/SS etc. Feels pretty light already though frankly!

My Scandal was 23lb on the nose with the carbon rigids on.

And is 25lb on the nose with the suss forks on.

Running 32/16 or 32/18 depending on the trail

In all honesty clubber and a lightweight bike would not be a long term relationship..

I hate to think what my Swift weighs 😳

Having said that the bike dosen't ride heavy if that makes any sense 😕

I started off with a 36T up front and a 11 - 34 out back.

Found that a 36T was a bit off an overkill unless it had its cross tyres on so have gone down to a 32T up front and this seems to make the ratios work better, well for me anyway 😀

KINGTUT - Member
In all honesty clubber and a lightweight bike would not be a long term relationship..

You're wrong actually - I did have a pretty light bike back in the 90s - never had a problem with it. Well not before the frame snapped, anyway 😉 The other bits seemed to last ok though.

Bruce,

<<i was looking to get under 20....for an xl
for under 3000 and i reckon i will easy>>

perhaps a
Scott Scale 29er?

http://www.birkenheadcycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b3s346p1506&rs=gb

£2100 then spend £900 on bits/mods?

You're wrong actually - I did have a pretty light bike back in the 90s - never had a problem with it. Well not before the frame snapped, anyway

Sounds about right. 🙂

The frame was probably the least lightweight part of it, mind...

I've just ordered a 29er Scale Pro in large approx 23.5lb stock. Will be having complete 2x10 xtr group, pro2 +29er crest wheels and some carbon finishing kit all in about £2600 and hoping to get towards the 20lb mark

OP if you are serious about results spend money and time on training!

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Niner Air 9 with carbon fork, 20.35lbs and much faster than I am.

Something to aim for...

[url] http://fairwheelbikes.com/cycling-blog/custom-bikes/titus-di2-project-29er.html [/url]

16lb, with gears and suspension.

I'm very tempted by a [url= http://www.scott-sports.com/us_en/product/10040/55501/217949 ]Scott Scale 29 RC[/url] or a [url= http://www.specializeduk.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=52792&scid=1000&scname=Mountain ]S-Works Epic 29er[/url] for next years racing...

At the mo the scott is winning it for me at around 20lbs 🙂

21 lbs for my Felt (without crudcatcher and a coating of mud). Could probably save a bit more with some lighter rims and brakes and a fancy saddle, but it's light enough for me as it is.

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JohnClimber, how wide is that Niner fork? Can you stick a Pugsley wheel in there?

Nice bike btw. I suppose they didn't have anything greener?

epicyclo - Member
JohnClimber, how wide is that Niner fork? Can you stick a Pugsley wheel in there?

There's enough mud clearance for 2.2(ish) tyres but no an Endomorph or Larry couldn't fit in there.

cynic-al - Member
OP if you are serious about results spend money and time on training!

Nah, it's much easier to spend money on bike stuff 😉

On one carbon 22.5 lbs with some old xt on i think i need to lower the seatpost a bit.
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Very nice milkybar! Is it a sample?

Hi yeh 1st ride 2 moz round thetford.

[url= http://singularcycles.posterous.com/theres-nearly-a-whole-bike-under-that ][u]This[/u][/url] was around 16lbs.
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Blimy Nige, getting seriously light now. Getting serious again then?

Got a carbon lefty sl/new crest wheels & some xtr for it for next year so hopefully it will be around the 20-21 lb mark,still only doing 1-2 rides a week so not 2 serious done 85miles training in the last month just want you need for the thetford 4 hour races.

think i have found a good plan for a build now guys thanks for help...

Haro Mary XC with an Alfine wheelset and mostly stock set-up, save for an i-beam layback saddle and seatpost. Shudder to think what it weighs. Lifting it over stiles pushes me perilously close to hernia territory.

But then I'm a stone overweight. When I lose that I can start blaming the bike for my glacial speed while I'm on it.

Almost certainly this guy:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=656281

13lbs (well 13lb15oz but still!) and from the photos it gets properly ridden - he's not the lightest guy and he's hitting some decent jumps. Oh and he runs a 22:11 ration IIRC!

I now have my Scott Scale 29er Pro (large frame), upgraded with the following
Full XTR drive, 30/42 up front,11-36 at the rear
Hope mono mini pro brakes 183/160
Wheels Hope pro 2 hubs Crest 29er rims Rocket rons (run tubeless)

Stock weight was 24lb on the nose
Now weighs 22.14lb and I've yet to fit carbon seat post and bars and change the saddle. Both those weights are without pedals!

That is very very close to the weight of the Scale 29er RC which costs £2800 more than the Pro! The upgrades didn't cost me that much!

That was ratio not ration obviously... Nice work cooper, the top of the line models in lots of the 'big' or biggish companies seem way worse than the midrange ones at the moment... How much did yours cost in total in the end?

It was about £2800, but still have the old wheelset and brakes to sell so all in about £2500 once that's gone, I did get a very good deal on my upgrades though! That's selling off the old drive train at RRP 😉 and exchanging it for/paying the difference for the xtr.

cooper can you post pics of your bike? sounds good build to me..

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There you go, I was never aiming to go superlight as I'm no lightweight myself but think this is a very usable spec for xc/marathon use. I only went xtr as I wanted to run a proper double up front and have never been a sram person. Could go lighter easily but Pro2 hubs are so bomb proof I won't ride anything else, and have only specced an xt chain and cassette, may go xtr in the future once I've paid for this this lot! Still waiting on the EC70(wide) carbon bars, Gobi saddle and xtr pedals so reckon complete bike should be a whisper over 22lb. Oh and the USE stem is slightly heavier than the stock Scott on 😳 but it looks good so it's staying! And yes I know I'd save another 5g by shortening the front brake line!

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My TD1. running Crossmark and tubeless now which has brought the weight down to 24.4lbs. A great ride.

That scale 29er pro is one of the sleeper bikes of the year! £2100 for the whole bike, the frame is £1500 on it's own! You've done the same as me although I've gone SRAM and single ring on front with x2 race brakes. 21lb in xl. Should knock a bit more off yet as like you I'm waiting for some light wide bars and a carbon post.

it doesn't weigh 16lbs now Sam 😉
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seriously do people still weigh bikes and stress over it? i have no idea how much my Pegasus weighs i just concentrate on riding it

2011 Gary Fisher Superlfy hardtail, completely standard with the addition of some new XTR trail pedals and Mud tyres is exactly bang on 23lbs in a 2x10 setup.

[url= http://twentynineinches.com/2011/01/13/one-one-carbon-race-29%E2%80%B3er-the-build-is-finished/ ]18lbs...[/url]

I have 32-18 on my bog-standard Singular Gryphon. Weight - no idea but not light.

Thread hijack - For those who are regularly changing ratios, do you just add and remove links to the chain or can an EBB take up the slack of changing from, say, 32-18 to 32-20?

Evening. Just wondering how tall you were. I am after the same bike. I am 6ft 2. I have a have a spark xl at the mo. Wondering if i could get away with a large 29er