[Closed] 29ers. Looks like the games up!

Do i have to wear jeans with elasticated ankles now?

Looks that way! Do you own a neon pink Fox t shirt?

Get some panniers on it too.

binners - Member

MBUK are now extolling their virtues.

Dirt, too.

Didn't the MBUK review comprehensively say that 29's were faster than any other wheel size? 650B and 26"!

That's right, wiped the floor with them on a test track up hill and down dale, absolutely destroyed them.

"WOW!" i hear you ask, "how much faster were they over the same lap?, an hour? 10 mins, a minute even?" nope, 15 seconds.......

.....15 seconds..... if i wanted to spend a couple of grand on 15 seconds i'd go and hire Cheryl Cole.........twice!

I think i'll leave the 29er upgrade to the elite athletes that give two sh!ts about 15 seconds

And for that reason, i'm out!

New niche you say?

Gotta be one of these!

http://www.unicycle.uk.com/unicycles/specials/qu-ax-penny-farthing.html

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since when has any one, ever, based a properly informed opinion on what MBUK says?

[i]since when has any one, ever, based a properly informed opinion on what MBUK says? [/i]

I decided not to trust what mbuk says based on what mbuk says.

Does that count?

Do people still buy that mag ??

Is there any value in a 26" wheeled 27 speed bike anymore?
Is a 2011 bike now classed as retro? 🙂

I like Mint Sauce and, tbh, it's the same reviewers etc as the other Future mags.

My son likes the free hats too.

wwaswas - Member

I decided not to trust what mbuk says based on what mbuk says.

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I decided not to trust what mbuk says based on what mbuk says.

Does that count?

oh yes.

in the States a couple of weeks ago on a magazine cover '27 and a 1/2-er', when 29 is too big and 26 too small.
I was that interested I didn't even pick it up, thinking it was an April Fool, even though (a) it's not April and (b) in the US 'humor' is controlled by the Government thought police.
so if there are any ground breaking hipsters out there it could be true and the next big thing, before 33& 1/3ers come out with vinyl wheels

27.5 is another name for 650B.

since when has any one, ever, based a properly informed opinion on what MBUK says?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'll be asking for jimtorch's opinion on stuff instead from now on. Clear, concise, to the point, and with a Cheryl Cole reference. What's not to like?

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Holmesey that's a 650b isn't it 🙂

Have MBUK got anything to say on belt drives ?
Hopefully, I'm safe in my own little niche for a while yet.

belt drive niche 29er(ish) loveliness;

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Have they done fat bikes yet? 😉

Beargrease was in either WMB or MBUK this month. One of the two did a fatbike test ages ago and concluded like everyone else does "Makes no sense but still fab"

WOE how much is that belt drive bike?

more info on the cross bike;

[url= http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/11/rittaayyyyys-new-sscx-bike/ ]http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/11/rittaayyyyys-new-sscx-bike/[/url]

Conspiracy theory... everytime I click on a 29er thread Match.com is showing me blokes. The horror.

Waswaswas that is pant wettingly lovely

It was mbuk who used to put the same line of test between hardtails and full sus and there was only a few seconds between them then......and yet people moved from there adequate hardtails to full sus. Why? Probably because their mates got one.....and then their mates got one etc. Can see the same thing happening with 29ers whether I like it or not.

I still use a 26 wheeled 8 speed v brake bike in the summer
It's great to blast past people on shiny high end bikes

A little polite hello on the way by helps no end lol

I should add I do like my new 29 spearfish a lot but its not the be all and end all

30 seconds per 20 minute lap is > 2.5 minutes over an xc race. Certainly worth having.

If you're not racing, why are you interested in a article about how fast different wheels are?

It was mbuk who used to put the same line of test between hardtails and full sus and there was only a few seconds between them then......and yet people moved from there adequate hardtails to full sus. Why? Probably because their mates got one.....and then their mates got one etc. Can see the same thing happening with 29ers whether I like it or not.

I dunno, I was the only person in my ridnig group 'oop-north with a 29er for the last 18 months (apparently a friend of a friend also had one).

I think one 'interesting fact' is that when dirt re-branded itself arround issue 50 they published time'd runs down a test track (1m30s odd). The old (pre SL) 150mm enduro was only a couple of seconds behind the Intense M3, and the Giant Faith (which they hated) was withing a second as well.

Basicly they proved that a £4k DH bike, a £2k trail bike and a £1500 FR/DH were exactly as fast as each other!

I do remember the hardtails were significantly slower though (arround 25% slower).

Now they did something similar recently with 26/29ers, the 29ers were 4-10s faster over about 90 second DH runs when comparing 5" 26ers Vs 4" 29ers (and 5" 29ers Vs 6" 26ers). Not Scientific, but it does show a fairly wide gulf between the wheelsizes that isn't seen between the different styles of bike.

No ones forceing 29ers on anyone, maybe high end 26ers will die out, I don't know. 26ers havent gotten worse, but the 29er I replaced my 26er with is significantly better in almost every way.

[edit] the above is bolloks, I miss read the article

kona are releasing a 650b explosif next year

so thats the entire debate decided then!

Clear, concise, to the point, and with a Cheryl Cole reference. [b]What's not to like[/b]?

MTBing is soooo dependant on the rider, just ride what you like.

I still use a 26 wheeled 8 speed v brake bike in the summer
It's great to blast past people on shiny high end bikes

it looks like a mere $2,195 might get you one for yourself if your early.

and tinas thats not exactly what the dirt article showed..........

the 140 29er was 5s faster than the 150 26er

and the 160 26er was 4s faster than the 120 29er

http://dirt.mpora.com/news/dirt-magazine-26v29-bonus-feature.html

and tinas thats not exactly what the dirt article showed..........

I stand corrected, that'll teach me to skim read.

[i]and the 160 26er was 4s faster than the 120 29er[/i]

Is that £160?

Well according to this:

[url= http://www.bicycleretailer.com/product-tech/2012/11/26/650b-freight-train#.ULeF9oYRqmW ]The 650B Freight Train[/url]

"the industry has made the decision for the consumer".

The midsized tire will dominate the market. Twenty-six-inch wheels will be seen only on entry-level bikes and long-travel downhill bikes. Twenty-nine-inch wheels will be reserved for bikes aimed at the cross-country set, with short-travel or hardtail frames.

MBUK are now extolling their virtues

how could you tell? Did you copy the text out of it's unreadable formatting over similarly coloured background, then painstakingly stick each word through google translate and urbandictionary?

I was too old for MBUK when I was 15, now I'm 40 it gives me a migraine...

wwaswas,

That belt drive looks like an ex 'Third Reich' mail boy's ride - go suck a sausage buddy.....pig ugly!

😛

Clear, concise, to the point, and with a Cheryl Cole reference. What's not to like?

erm cheryl cole?

Homo 😀

I like mountain biking to be fun, can we have reviews based on grin factor rather than if i get to the pub 4 seconds quicker than someone else.

it's rubbish in Empire Red as well Love_Tubs;

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[edit] that's non disk version, though.

thisisnotaspoon - Member

I stand corrected, that'll teach me to skim read.

to be fair the article was a bit confusing- jonsey had already made up his mind before he wrote it imho so he kind of ignored the actual results!

Yea, I read it as 29ers are awesome, skimmed through the numbers noteing that they were ~5 seconds different and left it at that. Does seem odd considdering that everyone raves about the rumblefish that it came out slower.

to be fair the article was a bit confusing- jonsey had already made up his mind before he wrote it imho so he kind of ignored the actual results!

Agreed. But the article did get me thinking about 29ers and I want to get a test ride of one. Where as before I might not have bothered, thinking they're just for bearded weirdies.

Just hang on a minute? There's a pretty bloody serious issue been raised here. How can you not like Cheryl Cole, Donk? What on earths wrong with you man?!

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isnt she a racist? probably a member of ukip

ill concede shes easier on the eye than nigel farage tho

^^ it's hard enough trying to understand her never mind look at her image enhanced photo ^^

I do wonder if she has ever been ridin tho'

Still getting the idea that some people would actually set out to have a bike with certain sized wheels, and/or choose a bike based on the size of the wheels... Is that actually the case!? 😯

Well I rode a 29er for the first time today and all I can say is believe the hype. 🙂

Still getting the idea that some people would actually set out to have a bike with certain sized wheels, and/or choose a bike based on the size of the wheels... Is that actually the case!?

Why not? If I was going out shopping for a new XC bike tommorow (Ok, more likely next spring) I'd ignore anything 26", just like I'd ignore the 20" and 24" bikes.

since when has any one, ever, based a properly informed opinion on what MBUK says?

I bought a Marin East Peak in 1998 partly based on their group test, that turned out to be a good decision. It was also the last time I bought a bike magazine. I still have it somewhere.