Forum menu
27.5 rear, 29 front...
 

[Closed] 27.5 rear, 29 front. Who's done it?

Posts: 134
Free Member
Topic starter
 
[#10577571]

And what did you get from it? I'm curious


 
Posted : 10/04/2019 11:52 pm
Posts: 0
Full Member
 

I've just set my FS up 26 rear 29 front.

First ride tomorrow night.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 12:10 am
Posts: 1548
Free Member
 

Standard setup on my Ebike. Seems to have plenty of grip at the back and rolls over stuff nicely.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 12:12 am
Posts: 8035
Full Member
 

I've done 26r/29f as a winter bike.

The donor bike was an on-one 456 with 26r rigid fork and 29r front wheel.

For that particular combo it gave me a rigid bike with similar geometry to the 456 with a sagged 140mm fork but with better mud clearance and lighter weight. The bigger wheel out front gave the usual 29r thing of rolling over bumps easily and a slightly bigger contact patch.

As a rigid combination it worked well but I think mainly because it was the best way of achieving the right overall geometry from the frame rigid (it felt "twitchy as" with that fork and a 26" wheel).


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 12:52 am
Posts: 407
Free Member
 

Not exactly but I have thought of B+ rear, 29 front on a hardtail, makes sense to me as the extra squish on the rear compensates for the lack of suspension and the front will roll over moar stuff.
There must be a reason dirt bikes run this set up...


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 8:44 am
Posts: 5783
Full Member
 

Liteville have been selling bikes like that for years...

From their website....

"Scaled Sizing
The correct frame size of a bike influences the performance capability of an entire bike. Yet it is not only the frame size that is to fit the rider, but also the wheel size. This is why our frames, depending on the frame size and the body height of the rider, can be built with different wheel sizes (24”, 26”, 27.5” and 29”).

Different wheel sizes? Because it makes sense!

Front: rolling smoothly and safely.
When you hit the dirt, your front wheel has the toughest job. That is why it should be as big as possible without having disadvantages regarding the chassis design.
Passing obstacles becomes a lot easier. On top of this, the tracking as well as the braking performance of the front wheel are improved. And there is more to it! The increased gyroscopic force additionally improves the stability of the bike where it is needed most. The rougher the trail is, the more you will have your front wheel support your riding.

Rear: Light, stiff, highly agile
A moderate wheel size in the back makes possible kinematics that allow for a short rear end of the bike. At the same time, passing obstacles with the bigger front wheel is a lot easier, no matter how big the obstacle is. In comparison to a conventional mountain bike with two equally sized wheels, the inertia is reduced and thereby leads to easier acceleration and more control. It goes without saying that a bigger wheel in the back, even for small riders, would allow for better rolling in flat sections, yet in challenging downhill sections, equally sized wheels provide less stability and thus less control. It is not what you expect from a bike that is designed for tough terrain!"


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 9:17 am
Posts: 3032
Free Member
 

have run my flare max as 27.5+/ 29 for about 4 months ...
now back as a 29er ....
i prefer it as a 29er .. even though it spat me off, and broke my shoulder ....
i am not sure i gel with plus tyres ... the heavy draggy part of the deal ... and the terrible undamped suspension outways what i thought would be the benefits.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 9:24 am
Posts: 8872
Full Member
 

I tried it on my Geometron but I'm not usually a fan of 29ers.  It made it feel like a 29er.  I changed back to 27.5 and the trails regained their life 🙂


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 9:29 am
Posts: 314
Free Member
 

27+ rear and 29+ on Stooge mk II

Was ok locally but made me really laugh out loud the first time I pointed it downhill at a trail centre. Front rolls over almost anything and rear is low and tucked in nicely around the corners.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 10:13 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've done it on my 2019 Specialized Stumpjumper 29 with a 27.5x2.3 on the rear and a 29x2.5 WT on the front. It's meh...
I've also tried 27.5 back and front on that bike. That's better.
I would say i'm not good enough to tell the difference but that wouldn't quite be truthful. I'm not good...but I can tell the difference.
On steep stuff it's great. i'm 5' 7" and I don't scrape my arse on the back tyre with that set-up (to be expected) but on everything else it does feel a bit weird - too slack imo.
27.5" back and front on a bike designed for 29" is actually ok and is definitely more nimble but after all my experimenting I have reverted to 29". I guess I'm just more used to it.
Does that help?


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 10:19 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Yeh it's definitely only really worth doing if you are mainly riding rough, techy DH stuff and enduro tracks.
It's too slack for climbing and it doesn't carry speed as well as a full 29" set-up. I did a back to back test on it to see if it would revolutionize my riding 😀 but it didn't. I rode up a tarmac road of gentle gradient and then descended down a fast, tight and rough section of singletrack. 29/27.5 felt great in the tighter sections but was harder work to keep speed in the open, rougher parts.
I actually liked the full 29" better. It was faster and easier to keep the speed going and when it came to the tight sections I guess I am more used to riding it so i just picked a more aggro line and ploughed straight on. Everyone needs to try a 29er trail bike...they are genuinely amazing!


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 10:33 am
Posts: 2332
Full Member
 

69er Inbred. Rigid. SS. Makes a big difference (in a good way) to running it 26 front & rear.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 11:33 am
 kcal
Posts: 5450
Full Member
 

For the last while have run my S/S Swift with 29r rear and 27.5+ front.
Really liked it.

Guy here has picked up a very s/h Trek 69r, and that runs really well too.


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 3:17 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Tried that a few years ago with the NS Eccentric. Never happened again, make of that what you will 😉

ns


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 5:02 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've done it the other way round - 29 back, 27.5 front - basically as that's what fork I had spare to fit in place of a 29er rigid fork when I wanted to add some suspension to a particular hardtail. Worked fine fwiw

I've also done 27.5 rear with 27.5 plus (which is almost 29er size) on the front. That actually worked really well


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 6:36 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Ah, me was lying! I've done B+/29+ on the Cookie:

cookie


 
Posted : 11/04/2019 7:02 pm
Posts: 10654
Full Member
 

Did it with 26” / 29” on an Inbred once, that was s beast.

Of late my SIR.9 is set up 27.5+ / 29+.
You get the daft roll over anything of the 29+ but the 27.5” rear gives it better acceleration.


 
Posted : 12/04/2019 1:20 am
Posts: 217
Free Member
 

I test rode a couple of geometrins. I found the same as caldog above. It was a little bit easier to ride in really tight and slow trails, but worse everywhere else compared to the 29 front and back. I found I was going quicker into corners on 29, it was smoother and handled better on the fast rough tracks.

it was only a shirt ride on both though, and there may still be done merit in it.


 
Posted : 12/04/2019 10:54 am