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On the tyre front, do people notice a difference off road between a slick(ish) tyre and a lightly treaded one
They'll both be useful when its muddy, but on a dry track what's the difference? I suppose when it's wet there'll be a small difference
My cross bike had WTB Nano 40Cs but it's currently running 32c marathon plus tyres, so have gone from small amount of tread to almost no tread
I'm thinking about getting some Knard 41 tyres. Does anyone know if they'll fit?
I would say almost certainly yes.
I run 40mm marathon supremes that come up just a tiny bit over measured with callipers. I have around 5/6 mm of clearance between the tyre and seat / chain stays. The closest bit is the swing arm on the front mech - this can get pretty darn close to the tyre (~2 mm or so) but never rubs. Could always file a bit off or just run a single ring.
oh mine is the Croix 30 with carbon fork. around the same clearance between tyre and inside blade of the fork. I am not sure how wide the clearance will be on the steel fork of the Croix 10 or 20 mind you.
^^don, did you ever get the brake lever travel sorted out ?
from here:
http://www.einsteincycles.com/blog/what-we-like-wednesday-surly-knard-700x41
"The tire comes in a 27tpi and 120tpi, with the latter serving as the tubeless option, depending on your rims. While the tire is a 41mm, the width of your rim will influence the actual diameter of the tire mounted. We measure the tire at 37mm on a more narrow road rim, and 42mm on a wider road rim, and 43mm on a 29er rim"
I doubt you would be able to run guards or anything but if the 42mm is correct, you will have space for it.
yeah I did Iain, I just advanced the pads with a shim slightly narrower than the brake disc. This seats the piston slightly further out than it would do adjusting against the shimano disc.
Lever bites almost immediately now. Also chucked a 180 disc on the front and some new race matrix pads and now I can stop on a sixpence.
I guess you did that as part of a bleed process ? Sounds a good result !
I've not yet investigated how to get into the reservoir to bleed them !
I have bled them yes but you don't need to do it to advance the pads. The trick is to close them up a fraction by using a slightly thinner than disc wedge. You can do it without a wedge and just pump the lever once.
Definitely worth doing if you like minimal lever travel (like me).
It's real easy to get into the reservoir... Just peel back the rubber hood and you will see the filler plug.
They bleed easy just like the mtb brakes.... Used the cup and all kit that I use on mtbs.
many thanks, will have a pop at that, cheers
Well being as my thread has resurfaced again.....
I've been riding the bike 4 days a week since I got a new job I could cycle to. So I'm putting on about 65 miles a week on it now, and it's spot on for the job of bumping up and down kerbs, using cycle paths and carrying me and my lunch to work.
I've also made a few changes:
Far wiser to use lights that have a decent fitting system instead!
They are now bolted on dynamo lights front and rear. Busch and Muller Luxos U (with USB charging) at the front linked to an Exposure dynamo. They work. I never turn them off.
Wider bars and Bar Phat like I said I would, which help a LOT, and a Madison Flux (AKA Charge Spoon) saddle as the OE one was grim.
I also did a 300 mile tour round Belgium on it, where I found [s]don't like[/s] ******* hate touring on drop bars. Never again.
The bike was fine apart from that, oh, and a spate of punctures (6 in a mile) that had me relying on a kindly Frenchman (Still in France, just off the ferry) to take me to a bike shop for tubes and a new tyre.
The OE Contis are nice, but they are paper thin. I must have ridden through some tiny shards of glass and I couldn't find them to get them out, every time I pumped the tyre up it just punctured again. Be warned.....
You do like to moan about drops pp don't you! See I am the opposite, I find touring on flats horrendous. Each to their own 😉
But agree the stock contis are plop. I punctured twice on my very first ride. Week later swapped to marathon supremes and not a single puncture in 2000 miles. Damn..... Done it now haven't I!
touring on flats horrendous
It might be... Dunno... I use risers!
This is my proper touring outfit:
Flat pedals (ride in any shoes)
Risers (Comfy, see the scenery)
Discs (LOTS of weight to stop)
Trailer (I carry most of the camping gear. We don't travel particularly light)
22/34 bottom gear (See above)
26in wheels (Strength)
Mrs PPs bike (Background) is a Ridgeback X3 hybrid. Calling it a hybrid is a disservice really, it's closer to a lightweight 29er MTB. I've lowered the gearing to 22/32/44 + 12-36 and added rack, mudguards and a Spesh ladies saddle for her, but otherwise it's box fresh. As far as I can see it's the closest thing to a decent non-drop-barred tourer available right now.
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I'm sure I'm massively missing the point here, but I feel compelled to ask (PP and other touring afficionados): When you're loaded up like that, isn't it incredibly slow? Where do you go?
I think I would lose patience after half a mile, ditch the trailer and return home for some lycra and a road bike (and then pay for a B&B).
Superficial its all about the journey not about how quick the journey is 😉
Superficial.... YEAH tis very slow. Heavy and hard work. But it's combining two of the things I love the most, camping outdoors and cycling. It's the freedom to go where you want, do what you want and once unloaded and camp set up, explore.
Oh and iain, meant to send this to you yesterday.... If you not seen it, here is the user manual for the sti levers regarding bleed and resevoir:
many thanks for that link, cheers
Based almost entirely on this thread I have just gone out and bought a CdF 10, just got it back to the office. The sun is shining, and there's only an hour and a half to go til I can ride it home along the river! Can't wait!
When you're loaded up like that, isn't it incredibly slow?
Damn straight it is!!! What's the rush? It's all about the ride, seeing stuff you don't see when you're in a rush/in a car. Our moving average is usually around 8-10mph. I work on 1 hr per 10 miles plus an hour for a day's touring, so 40 miles = 5 Hours, plus elevenses, lunch, a quick pint, a snooze under a tree.... that sort of thing.
Where do you go?
First time we did North Devon coast down to Padstow, over to the south coast and back up to Exeter
We've also done Walney To Whitby then down to Scarborough ( http://cyclingw2w.info ) where I towed that trailer up to the Tan Hill Inn, the highest pub in England.
Also Newcastle to Edinburgh ( http://www.coast-and-castles.co.uk ) then back round to Berwick on Tweed
Last year we did a route based on the Sustrans Celtic Trail ( http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/route/celtic-trail-west ) and finished on the Gower for 3 days.
This year its a route based on Hadrians Cycleway ( http://www.cycle-routes.org/hadrianscycleway/) and Lochs and Glens south ( http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/route/lochs-and-glens-south ) basically Ravenglass-Carlisle-Glasgow
We take the train to the start, then the train home from the end. It's usually around the 300 mile mark in total, and it's out main holiday.
Few more pics?
Campsite at a brewery? Ok then!
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11 mile climb out of Innerleithen, midddle ring most of the way!
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Me
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No cars
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Through a golf course
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Somewhere on the Yorkshire coast between Whitby and Scarborough
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Up to Tan Hill
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You need to look for roads with grass growing down the middle!
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Waiting for a ferry in Devon
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This is why it's slow!
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Mr Poddy, thats living the dream son 😀
It's fantastic. It's THE BEST holiday ever. 🙂
Croix De Fer in natural habitat :
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Bump!
So, how good would a '16 CdF 30 be for general winter road riding, with the occasional gravel foray? I'm thinking to lower my eye watering target of an Enigma Ecroix, but need to keep up on the road club rides.
It'd need to sit on the turbo as well, how does Rynolds 731 deal with sweat - a serious corrosion concern? 8)
I've the CDF10 (2016 version) and it's fine for that use, you might have your work cut out on the club rides though 😛
Drape a towel over the top tube plus make sure you wipe it down afterwards and you'll be fine.
The 16 one is a bit cheaper than the 15 version, but loses the carbon fork. Mine does all my winter road, some quiet rough road touring and a few gravel forays. Very pleased with it and would imagine the 2016 one is similar.
I don't have a turbo, but can't imagine it would corrode unless you sweat acid 😀
Yeah I love mine (2015 cdf20) as a winter road bike. I presume you'll use a spare wheel on the turbo - although the stock tyres are reasonably slick in the centre I think they'd be annoying.
As above, you'll find keeping up on club runs that bit harder but you'll be grateful of the extra speed come summer.