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Hello STW
As the list title says.... Thinking of converting my ASR5 to 142x12 at the back, (can't afford the new SB5c without selling at least a kidney) but is it worth doing?
Thanks in anticipation
Bump......
Any experiences or advice?
Just doing it at the moment so will tell you in 2 or 3 weeks.
Yes definitely, makes a difference.
I find it much simpler on all the 142x12 bikes I own to use than qr.
Definitely worth it
Well worth doing, I've got a full chip kit in my spares box. Used but all in good working order. Could do you a deal on it if you fancy?
robbonzo - Member
Yes definitely, makes a difference.
How and why?
Spikey, I'm definitely interested in the chip kit - does it include the maxle/skewer & how much do you want?
Yep has shimano axle. There £83 on yetifan. Wat about £40
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Something out. Cheers.
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I've got it on my ASR5, but no real experience without it for a fair comparison. It seems nice and stiff though, and as above it's much easier / more convenient.
I doubt it's really a game-changing upgrade though, and at £83, I'd put the money towards something else, personally. For £40 you might as well.
I went for the bolt through option when my rear triangle failed (a couple of years ago now) with a QR installed. My personal thoughts (and could well be totally wrong) is that with the QR there is more stress put on the hanger/rear triangle joint, so by using the bolt through there is less twisting movement thus load. UK distributor have been great and replaced my rear triangle within a few days and I havent had any probs since. Also find with bolt through the dropouts dont need as much fettling.
Converted my carbon-ended 575 to 142x12 and can't say I noticed much of a difference. Wheel better secured perhaps. Money better spent on getting the RP23 Pushed in my case.
Has anyone genuinely ever noticed the difference between a QR back end and a Maxle on anything other than an Orange Five (and I ran one of those with a QR and couldn't give less of a chuff about it).
I noticed it was stiffer with the bigger axle but I'm over 13 stone. It isn't essential anyway.
Spikey - if Mildred changes their mind, can I have that kit?
Mildred YGM
Justin yep no worries.
Yeah I wouldn't say it's 'essential' but I did notice a difference with the chip lot installed. Just a touch more solid and stiff.
It definitely makes a difference. Well worth it I'd say.
I'm only 10-and-a-bit stone and I'd say it was worth it, I noticed a real difference in the rear end stiffness. Granted, when I changed from QR to 142x12 I also changed wheels, but they were both a similar spec, conventional (no carbon or fat spokes) wheels.
Thanks everyone - seems I was too slow to get the used chipset and axle.
Is Yetifan my best bet for the kit, or is it cheaper we elsewhere?
I was going to go here:
There are generally a few cheap shimano 142mm maxles on eBay.
Just puzzled how this new found 'stiffness' manifests itself, considering you've got a 26 -29" flexible disc and about 2.5" of squidgy rubber between the axle and the ground?
I'm suspicious this is another of those 'benefits' invented by the marketing guys that we persuade ourselves we can notice - like stiffer cranks, better Q factor, reduced seal stiction... 😀
Now, ease of re-fitting a wheel and getting it in exactly the right place so you don't have to adjust the brakes - that's a benefit I can appreciate!
Variflex - what do you mean that dropouts don't need as much fettling?
Just puzzled how this new found 'stiffness' manifests itself, considering you've got a 26 -29" flexible disc and about 2.5" of squidgy rubber between the axle and the ground?I'm suspicious this is another of those 'benefits' invented by the marketing guys that we persuade ourselves we can notice - like stiffer cranks, better Q factor, reduced seal stiction...
If you ever go from a very flexy frame to a pretty stiff one, you can definitely notice less twang in the rear end of the bike. I.e. it goes where you point it slightly more accurately. Whether that's enough to give you a real-world speed increase probably depends on loads of factors especially confidence level.
It's one of those things like posh dampers, good coffee and expensive hifis that you can train yourself into understanding, and you forever [i]need[/i] to spend more money on.